Duke's Missing And Rare Movies

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    Quote from Big_Guy56

    For those that are interested, I have most all of John's old rare films on DVD. My email address is [email protected] All of the films come with a collectors case and great orginal art work on the case and the DVD. I sell them in the states for $13.95 and have over 400 customers on ebay with out one negative comment. If you want one of his old rare films, send me an email and we can see what you need. Thanks, Ron



    I just had delivery of 22 of these from Ron. Excellent service, great communication and the quality ranges from same as VHS to near DVD quality. (all bar 2 but these ones, Bardelys and Mother Machree, are VERY RARE)

    I am very pleased to have upgraded my collection at such a reasonable price.

    Be who you are & say what you feel Because those who mind dont matter & those who matter dont mind

    I was wondering if anyone had the time to compile a list of JW films with purchase sources so as to make it easier for any member to add to their collection.

    Greetings from North of the 49th

    Hi Murray,


    Thanks for bringing this older thread up,
    and indeed it needs to be merged with our specific thread relating to this,
    which I have now done.
    Murray, Elly a fellow member,carried out extensive research on this subject, of which
    I helped, and compiled a list for her:-



    Duke's Missing And Rare Movies- The Definitive List


    Although it doesn't show the suppliers,
    it does show, their state of flux and availability.


    Hope this helps?

    Best Wishes
    Keith
    London- England

    Edited once, last by ethanedwards ().

    Some of you were wondering what John Wayne films that I have.
    [FONT=&quot]I’m sending you an[/FONT][FONT=&quot]UPDATED[/FONT][FONT=&quot]list of all my John Wayne Films from 1926 to 1945.[/FONT]


    John Wayne Films



    1926 Bardelys the Magnificent Lost Film – Some beginning, middle and ending.
    1926 Brown of Harvard RESTORED
    1926 The Great K & A Train Robbery RESTORED
    1927 The Drop Kick RESTORED
    1928 Four Sons RESTORED
    1928 Hangman’s House RESTORED
    1928 Mother Machree Partial Film - Half of it is Lost!
    1928 Noah’s Ark RESTORED
    1929 Salute RESTORED
    1929 The Black Watch
    1930 Born RecklessRESTORED
    1930 Men without Women
    1930 Rough Romance
    1930 The Big Trail RESTORED and in Wide Screen
    1931 Arizona (A.K.A. Men Are Like That) RESTORED
    1931 Maker of Men RESTORED
    1931 Range Feud
    1932 Haunted Gold
    1932 Lady and Gent RESTORED
    1932 Ride Him, Cowboy
    1932 Shadow of the Eagle RESTORED
    1932 Texas Cyclone
    1932 The Big Stampede RESTORED
    1932 The Hurricane Express
    1932 Two Fisted Law
    1933 Baby Face RESTORED
    1933 Central Airport RESTORED
    1933 College Coach RESTORED
    1933 His Private Secretary RESTORED
    1933 Riders of Destiny RESTORED
    1933 Somewhere in Sonora
    1933 The Life of Jimmy Dolan RESTORED
    1933 The Lucky Texan RESTORED
    1933 The Man from Monterey RESTORED
    1933 The Sagebrush Trail RESTORED
    1933 The Telegraph Trail RESTORED
    1933 The Three Musketeers RESTORED
    1934 Blue Steel RESTORED
    1934 ‘Neath Arizona Skies RESTORED
    1934 Randy Rides Alone RESTORED
    1934 Star Packer RESTORED
    1934 The Man from Utah RESTORED
    1934 West of the Divide
    1935 New Frontier
    1935 Paradise Canyon RESTORED
    1935 Rainbow Valley
    1935 Texas Terror RESTORED
    1935 The Dawn Rider RESTORED
    1935 The Desert Trail RESTORED
    1935 The Lawless Frontier RESTORED
    1935 The Lawless Nineties
    1935 The Lawless Range
    1935 Westward Ho!
    1936 Conflict
    1936 King of the Pecos RESTORED
    1936 The Lonely Trail
    1936 The Sea Spoilers
    1936 Winds of the Wasteland RESTORED
    1937 California Straight Ahead
    1937 I Cover The War
    1937 Idol of the Crowds
    1938 Hell Town
    1938 Overland Stage Raiders
    1938 Pals of the Saddle
    1938 Red River Range
    1938 Santa Fe Stampede RESTORED
    1939 Allegheny Uprising
    1939 Frontier Horizon (A.K.A. New Frontier)
    1939 Stagecoach
    1939 The Night Riders
    1939 Three Texas Steers
    1939 Wyoming Outlaw
    1940 Seven Sinners
    1940 The Dark Command
    1940 The Long Voyage Home
    1940 Three Faces West
    1941 Lady from Louisiana
    1941 The Shepherd of the Hills
    1941 Wheel of Fortune (A.K.A. A Man Betrayed)
    1942 Flying Tigers
    1942 In Old California
    1942 Lady for a Night
    1942 Pittsburg
    1942 Reap the Wild Wind
    1942 Reunion in France
    1942 The Spoilers
    1943 A Lady takes a Chance
    1943 War of the Wildcats (A.K.A. In Old Oklahoma)
    1944 Tall in the Saddle
    1944 The Fighting Seabees
    1945 Back to Bataan
    1945 Flame of the Barbary Coast
    1945 They Were Expendable
    1946 Desert Command

    [FONT=&quot]Thanks, Ron![/FONT]

    Just thinking about this subject again,
    and as we have newer members, who may interested
    in the availability/condition of Duke's earlier movies,
    here is a copy of our Definitive list:-


    Duke's Missing and Rare Movies- The Definitive list

    1926. BROWN OF HARVARD - (MGM) ***Available as a Movie
    1926. BARDELEYS THE MAGNIFICENT- (MGM)***No complete print known to exist. Approx 30 minutes survives.
    1927. ANNIE LAURIE- (MGM)***Restored print in Library of Congress
    1927. THE DROP KICK - (First National) ***Available as a Movie
    1927. THE GREAT K&A TRAIN ROBBERY- (Fox)***Available as a Movie
    1928. MOTHER MACHREE- (Fox)***No complete print known to exist (two reels missing)
    1928. FOUR SONS- (Fox)***Available as a Movie
    1928. HANGMAN'S HOUSE -(Fox) ***Available as a Movie
    1928. HAM HAMILTONS COMEDIES- (Fox)***Survival status unknown
    1928. NOAH'S ARK- (Warner Brothers/First National)***Available as a Movie
    1929. STRONG BOY- (Fox)***No print known to exist Considered LOST (There may be a print of this in Australia ref: www.silentera.com)
    1929. SPEAKEASY- (Fox)***No print known to exist Considered LOST
    1929. THE BLACK WATCH- (Fox)***Available as a Movie
    1929. WORDS AND MUSIC- (Fox) ***No print known to exist Considered LOST
    1929. SALUTE- (Fox)***Available as a Movie
    1929. THE FORWARD PASS- (First National)***No print known to exist Considered LOST
    1930. THE LONE STAR RANGER- (Fox)***Print in UCLA
    1930. MEN WITHOUT WOMEN-(Fox) ***Available as a Movie
    1930. BORN RECKLESS- (Fox)***Available as a Movie
    1930. ROUGH ROMANCE- (Fox)***Available as a Movie
    1930. CHEER UP AND SMILE- (Fox) ***Preserved copy in UCLA
    1930. THE BIG TRAIL- (Fox) .***Available as a Movie
    1931. WOMEN OF ALL NATIONS- (Fox)***Survival status unknown
    1931. THE SWEETHEART OF SIGMA CHI- (Fox)***Print is known to exist further research required to establish where
    1931. GIRLS DEMAND EXCITEMENT- (Fox)Print in UCLA (just been viewed by AFI and will be included in their next catalogue)
    1931. THREE GIRLS LOST- (Fox)***Incomplete print in UCLA (one reel missing) (just been viewed by AFI and will be included in their next catalogue)
    1931. MEN ARE LIKE THAT- (Columbia).***Available as a Movie
    1931. MAKER OF MEN- (Columbia).***Available as a Movie
    1931. THE DECEIVER- (Columbia)***Print is known to exist
    1932. THAT'S MY BOY (Columbia)***Print is known to exist further research required to establish where
    1936. THE OREGON TRAIL- (Republic)***No print known to exist Considered LOST
    1937. ADVENTURES END- (Universal)***Considered LOST However AFI know of a print in a private collection in Canada

    Also from Elly's post:-

    1932 Hollywood Handicap, the 20 minute short***Survival status unknown
    1932 Running Hollywood 20 minute short***Survival status unknown
    1932 Voice of Hollywood no 13, The 12 minute short***Survival status unknown

    My special thanks to our member Elly, for making this list possible,
    and for the considerable amount of time, she has spent on
    it's compilation

    Copyright-©dukewayne.com.2007

    Best Wishes
    Keith
    London- England

    Quote from Robbie

    Regarding the movies listed as "Available as a movie," surely these movies are no longer lost and can be taken from the list?



    :agent:


    Sorry Robbie,
    I meant to take a quote from your post,
    and edited it by mistake,
    will you be kind enough to repost your original one.


    However in the meantime, in answer to you,
    the one's marked, as 'Available' still remain 'Rare'
    so for that reason, still need to be included in this list.
    The list is intended to as an indication
    as to the present status of these movies.


    Quote

    Are the Wayne family were doing a search for the missing movie or if there was a possibility that some of the movies would be in their possession.


    Who knows, but the list does say where there are copies,
    if there are any, of the one's that exist.



    Thanks,

    Best Wishes
    Keith
    London- England

    Edited 4 times, last by ethanedwards ().

    In fact here is a small list of old rare films that I have.

    John Wayne Films



    1926 Bardelys the Magnificent Lost Film – Some beginning, middle and ending.
    1926 Brown of Harvard RESTORED
    1926 The Great K & A Train Robbery RESTORED
    1927 The Drop Kick RESTORED
    1928 Four Sons RESTORED
    1928 Hangman’s House RESTORED
    1928 Mother Machree Partial Film - Half of it is Lost!
    1928 Noah’s Ark RESTORED
    1929 Salute RESTORED
    1929 The Black Watch
    1930 Born RecklessRESTORED
    1930 Men without Women
    1930 Rough Romance
    1930 The Big Trail RESTORED and in Wide Screen
    1931 Arizona (A.K.A. Men Are Like That) RESTORED
    1931 Maker of Men RESTORED
    1931 Range Feud
    1932 Haunted Gold
    1932 Lady and Gent RESTORED
    1932 Ride Him, Cowboy
    1932 Shadow of the Eagle RESTORED
    1932 Texas Cyclone
    1932 The Big Stampede RESTORED
    1932 The Hurricane Express
    1932 Two Fisted Law
    1933 Baby Face RESTORED
    1933 Central Airport RESTORED
    1933 College Coach RESTORED
    1933 His Private Secretary RESTORED
    1933 Riders of Destiny RESTORED
    1933 Somewhere in Sonora
    1933 The Life of Jimmy Dolan RESTORED
    1933 The Lucky Texan RESTORED
    1933 The Man from Monterey RESTORED
    1933 The Sagebrush Trail RESTORED
    1933 The Telegraph Trail RESTORED
    1933 The Three Musketeers RESTORED
    1934 Blue Steel RESTORED
    1934 ‘Neath Arizona Skies RESTORED
    1934 Randy Rides Alone RESTORED
    1934 Star Packer RESTORED
    1934 The Man from Utah RESTORED
    1934 West of the Divide
    1935 New Frontier
    1935 Paradise Canyon RESTORED
    1935 Rainbow Valley
    1935 Texas Terror RESTORED
    1935 The Dawn Rider RESTORED
    1935 The Desert Trail RESTORED
    1935 The Lawless Frontier RESTORED
    1935 The Lawless Nineties
    1935 The Lawless Range
    1935 Westward Ho!
    1936 Conflict
    1936 King of the Pecos RESTORED
    1936 The Lonely Trail
    1936 The Sea Spoilers
    1936 Winds of the Wasteland RESTORED
    1937 California Straight Ahead
    1937 I Cover The War
    1937 Idol of the Crowds
    1938 Hell Town
    1938 Overland Stage Raiders
    1938 Pals of the Saddle
    1938 Red River Range
    1938 Santa Fe Stampede RESTORED
    1939 Allegheny Uprising
    1939 Frontier Horizon (A.K.A. New Frontier)
    1939 Stagecoach
    1939 The Night Riders
    1939 Three Texas Steers
    1939 Wyoming Outlaw
    1940 Seven Sinners
    1940 The Dark Command
    1940 The Long Voyage Home
    1940 Three Faces West
    1941 Lady from Louisiana
    1941 The Shepherd of the Hills
    1941 Wheel of Fortune (A.K.A. A Man Betrayed)
    1942 Flying Tigers
    1942 In Old California
    1942 Lady for a Night
    1942 Pittsburg
    1942 Reap the Wild Wind
    1942 Reunion in France
    1942 The Spoilers
    1943 A Lady takes a Chance
    1943 War of the Wildcats (A.K.A. In Old Oklahoma)
    1944 Tall in the Saddle
    1944 The Fighting Seabees
    1945 Back to Bataan
    1945 Flame of the Barbary Coast
    1945 They Were Expendable
    1946 Desert Command

    Thanks, Ron!

    Quote from ethanedwards

    Chester, our list is the same
    in showing the availability of these movies


    Yes, I understand that, but I was curious about the term RESTORED -

    Quote

    When it says RESTORED next to a title, I was wondering exactly what that means - how was it accomplished, and who did it?


    And really, the question isn't just for Ron, but for anybody who might know the answer.


    For example, I own The Star Packer several times over on both DVD and VHS, but I'm wondering if a RESTORED copy is newer and better than what I already have. There are a few other titles that are similarly readily available (public domain, maybe?). In most of those titles, John Wayne is a major character throughout the film, while some of the lesser available titles have Duke playing only a minor role.


    So . . . perhaps I would put my dollars into the more rare titles, especially if the readily available titles (rats) aren't significantly better than what I already have. Many of the rats are available on DVDs that hold quite a few titles, for a very good price (around $1 per film, in some cases). The quality is not great, but does not distract from the movie, and is very watchable.


    Chester :newyear:

    Keith, your comment sent me to our movie cupboard to see what it says on ours. The older movies from the thirties (many of the rats) are on all four sets that I looked at, and they all say "digitally remastered" and a couple indicate that the audio has been "digitally enhanced." Is "digitally remastered" the same as "restored" ? I confess ignorance of what these terms mean.


    Jim

    Quote from Big_Guy56

    Some one was looking for "Arizona" on DVD. A.K.A "Men Are Like That" I have it for sale if your interested.


    I have that one as well and it's not a bad movie at all. Big Guy, that is one impressive collection you have there.

    Stay thirsty my friends.

    Many of the films that I've purchased on VHS and DVD where not a very good product. Some of the films that I've bought from "GOODTIMES" and other vendors left me disappointed at the film quality. So as I collected my films over the years, whenever I got an extremely good copy of a film, I would put RESTORED next to the list. Please don't think that every film I show there has been professionally RESTORED. However, everyone loves the art work and product that I sell. My email address is [email protected] Purchase a film from the list that your missing or want to upgrade and see for yourself. If you have question about a particular film, shoot me an email. I would be glad to tell you about it before you ever think of purchasing it. Thanks, Ron!