Stagecoach (1939)

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    • Stagecoach (1939)

      STAGECOACH

      DIRECTED BY JOHN FORD
      PRODUCED BY JOHN FORD/ WALTER WANGER
      UNITED ARTISTS



      Photo with courtesy of lasbugas

      INFORMATION FROM IMDb

      Plot Summary
      A simple stagecoach trip is complicated by the fact that Geronimo
      is on the warpath in the area.
      The passengers on the coach include a a drunken doctor, a pregnant woman,
      a bank manager who has taken off with his client's money, and the famous Ringo Kid,

      Full Cast
      Claire Trevor .... Dallas
      John Wayne .... The Ringo Kid
      Andy Devine .... Buck
      John Carradine .... Hatfield
      Thomas Mitchell .... Doc Boone
      Louise Platt .... Lucy Mallory
      George Bancroft .... Marshal Curly Wilcox
      Donald Meek .... Samuel Peacock
      Berton Churchill .... Henry Gatewood
      Tim Holt .... Lt. Blanchard
      Tom Tyler .... Luke Plummer
      Dorothy Appleby .... Girl in saloon (uncredited)
      Frank Baker .... (uncredited)
      Chief John Big Tree .... Indian scout (uncredited)
      Ted Billings .... Bit part (uncredited)
      Wiggie Blowne .... Bit part (uncredited)
      Danny Borzage .... (uncredited)
      Edward Brady .... Lordsburg saloon owner (uncredited)
      Fritzi Brunette .... Bit part (uncredited)
      Yakima Canutt .... Cavalry scout (uncredited)
      Nora Cecil .... Boone's landlady (uncredited)
      Steve Clemente .... Bit (uncredited)
      Bill Cody .... Rancher (uncredited)
      Jack Curtis .... Bartender (uncredited)
      Marga Ann Deighton .... Mrs. Pickett (uncredited)
      Patsy Doyle .... Bit part (uncredited)
      Tex Driscoll .... Bit part (uncredited)
      Franklyn Farnum .... Deputy Frank (uncredited)
      Francis Ford .... Billy Pickett (uncredited)
      Brenda Fowler .... Mrs. Gatewood (uncredited)
      Helen Gibson .... Girl in saloon (uncredited)
      Robert Homans .... Ed (editor) (uncredited)
      William Hopper .... Sergeant (uncredited)
      Si Jenks .... Bartender (uncredited)
      Cornelius Keefe .... Capt. Whitney (uncredited)
      Florence Lake .... Nancy Whitney (uncredited)
      Duke R. Lee .... Lordsburg sheriff (uncredited)
      Theodore Lorch .... Lordsburg express agent (uncredited)
      Chris-Pin Martin .... Chris (uncredited)
      Jim Mason .... Jim (Tonto express agent) (uncredited)
      Louis Mason .... Tonto sheriff (uncredited)
      Merrill McCormick .... Ogler (uncredited)
      J.P. McGowan .... (uncredited)
      Walter McGrail .... Capt. Sickel (uncredited)
      Paul McVey .... Pony Express agent (uncredited)
      Kent Odell .... Billy Pickett Jr (uncredited)
      Artie Ortego .... Lordsburg bar patron (uncredited)
      Vester Pegg .... Hank Plummer (uncredited)
      Jack Pennick .... Jerry (bartender) (uncredited)
      Joe Rickson .... Ike Plummer (uncredited)
      Elvira Ríos .... Yakima (uncredited)
      Buddy Roosevelt .... Rancher (uncredited)
      Chuck Stubbs .... (uncredited)
      Harry Tenbrook .... Telegraph operator (uncredited)
      Mary Kathleen Walker .... Lucy's infant (uncredited)
      Bryant Washburn .... Capt. Simmons (uncredited)
      Whitehorse .... Indian chief (uncredited)
      Hank Worden ... Cavalryman Extra (uncredited)

      Writing Credits
      Ernest Haycox (story Stage to Lordsburg)
      Dudley Nichols
      Ben Hecht uncredited

      Original Music
      Gerard Carbonara (uncredited)

      Cinematography
      Bert Glennon

      Stunts
      Yakima Canutt .... stunt coordinator (uncredited)
      Ken Cooper .... stunts (uncredited)
      Johnny Eckert .... stunts (uncredited)
      Jack Mohr .... stunts (uncredited)
      David Sharpe .... stunts (uncredited)
      Henry Wills .... stunts (uncredited)
      Billy Yellow .... stunt rigger (uncredited)

      Trivia
      Asked why, in the climactic chase scene, the Indians didn't simply shoot the horses to stop the stagecoach, director John Ford replied, "Because that would have been the end of the movie."

      This was the first of many films that John Ford filmed in Monument Valley, Arizona. Others were: My Darling Clementine (1946), Fort Apache (1948), She Wore a Yellow Ribbon (1949), Wagon Master (1950), Rio Grande (1950), The Searchers (1956), Sergeant Rutledge (1960) and his last western, Cheyenne Autumn (1964).

      The first of many collaborations between John Ford and John Wayne.

      When the film was being cast, John Ford lobbied hard for John Wayne but producer Walter Wanger kept saying no. It was only after constant persistence on Ford's part that Wanger finally gave in. Wanger's reservations were based on Wayne's string of B-movies, in which he came across as being a less than competent actor, and the box office failure of Raoul Walsh's The Big Trail (1930) in 1930, Wayne's first serious starring role.
      a
      John Wayne's 80th film.

      John Ford loved the Monument Valley location so much that the actual stagecoach journey traverses the valley three times.

      In 1939 there was no paved road through Monument Valley, hence the reason why it hadn't been used as a movie location before (it wasn't paved until the 1950s). Harry Goulding, who ran a trading post there, had heard that John Ford was planning a big-budget Western so he traveled to Hollywood, armed with over 100 photographs, and threatened to camp out on Ford's doorstep until the director saw him. Ford saw him almost immediately and was instantly sold on the location, particularly when he realized that its remoteness would free him from studio interference.

      The interior sets all have ceilings, an unusual practice at the time for studio filming. This was to create a claustrophobic effect in complete counterpoint to the wide open expanse of Monument Valley.

      David O. Selznick was interested in making the film, but only if he could have Gary Cooper as the Ringo Kid and Marlene Dietrich as Dallas.

      John Ford's first sound Western, and his first in that genre in 13 years. Westerns had fallen out favor with the coming of sound, as it was tricky to record on location.

      Local Navajo Indians played the Apaches. The film's production was a huge economic boost to the local impoverished population, giving jobs to hundreds of locals as extras and handymen.

      Hosteen Tso, a local shaman, promised John Ford the exact kind of cloud formations he wanted. They duly appeared.

      John Ford gave John Wayne the script, asking him for any suggestions as to who could play the Ringo Kid. Wayne suggested Lloyd Nolan, not realizing that Ford was baiting him with the part. Once filming began, however, Ford was merciless to Wayne, constantly undermining him. This psychological tactic was designed to make Wayne start feeling some real emotions, and not to be intimidated by acting alongside the likes of such seasoned professionals as Thomas Mitchell.

      In 1939 Claire Trevor was the film's biggest star, and thus commanded the highest salary.

      The premise of Ernest Haycox's story comes from Guy de Maupassant's famous story 'Boule de Suif', which takes place in Normandy during the 1870 Franco-Prussian War.

      Orson Welles privately watched this film about 40 times while he was making Citizen Kane (1941).

      Near the end of the movie, Luke Plummer (Tom Tyler) has a pair of black aces and a pair of black eights. This is the notorious "dead man's hand" supposed to have been held by Wild Bill Hickok before he was killed.

      A device known as a "Running W" was used on the Indians' horses during the sequence where they are chasing the stagecoach. Strong, thin wires are fixed to a metal post, then the other end of the wires are attached to an iron clamp that encircles the legs of a horse, and the post is anchored into the ground. The horse is then ridden at full gallop, and when the wire's maximum length is reached - just when the rider is "shot" - the animal's legs are jerked out from underneath it, causing it to tumble violently and throw the "shot" rider off. The trouble was that the rider knew when the horse was going to fall but the horse didn't, resulting in many horses either being killed outright or having to be destroyed because of broken limbs incurred during the falls. The use of the "Running W" was eventually discontinued after many complaints from both inside and outside the film industry.

      John Ford originally wanted Ward Bond to play Buck the stage driver but gave the role to Andy Devine when he found that Bond couldn't drive a "six-up" stagecoach and there wasn't time to teach him.

      John Wayne's salary was considerably less than all of his co-stars', apart from John Carradine.

      It's believed by many that the famous line "A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do," widely attributed to a John Wayne Western character, is spoken by Wayne in this film, however, it isn't. His character, The Ringo Kid, instead says "There are some things a man just can't run away from," when asked why he intends to stay and avenge his family's murders rather than try to escape to Mexico.

      Producer Walter Wanger wanted Gary Cooper for the role of Ringo but Cooper's fees were too high. Bruce Cabot unsuccessfully tested for it before John Ford got his wish and cast John Wayne.

      Film debut of Mickey Simpson.

      Although Louis Gruenberg receives screen credit for the musical score, his contribution was not used and his name was omitted for the Academy Award nomination.

      The hat that John Wayne wears is his own. He would wear it in many westerns during the next two decades before retiring it after Howard Hawks' Rio Bravo (1959), because it was simply "falling apart." After that, the hat was displayed under glass in his home.

      Ranked #9 on the American Film Institute's list of the 10 greatest films in the genre "Western" in June 2008.

      Pictured on one of four 25¢ US commemorative postage stamps issued 23 March 1990 honoring classic films released in 1939. The stamp featured Stagecoach (1939), Beau Geste (1939), The Wizard of Oz (1939), and Gone with the Wind (1939).

      Doctor Boone's misquote, 'Is this the face that wrecked a thousand ships/ and burned the towerless tops of Ilium?', is from The Tragical History of Doctor Faustus by Christopher Marlowe, Scene xiv.

      "Screen Director's Playhouse" broadcast a 30 minute radio adaptation of the movie on January 9, 1949 with John Wayne and Claire Trevor reprising their film roles.

      "Academy Award Theater" broadcast a 30 minute radio adaptation of the movie on May 4, 1946 with Claire Trevor reprising her film role.

      John Ford’s classic film is based on a short story, Stage to Lordsburg, by Ernest Haycox, published in Collier’s Magazine in 1937, in turn, based on Guy de Maupassant’s Boule de Suif, set during the 1870 Franco-Prussian War.

      And apart from the geographical locale, John Wayne’s character name was wisely changed from Malpais Bill to the Ringo Kid.

      The film established Monument Valley, on the Arizona-Utah border, as an icon of the American Old West, although, of the passengers, only John Wayne actually trekked out to Utah. None of the principals made it past California’s San Fernando Valley.

      Monument Valley, an area of striking, flat-topped mesas and buttes, was a tough location in 1938, at the end of a 200-mile dirt road from Flagstaff, Arizona. The Navajo nation, already troubled by disease and unemployment, were employed to play Apaches – one of the many nations they were to play over the years. The Valley is not a National Park, as you might expect, but a Tribal Park still belonging to, and managed by, the Navajo.

      But, striking as it is, Monument Valley is only a part of Stagecoach. The river crossing is the Kern River, near to Kernville, 40 miles east of Bakersfield, California. The old wagon cut at Newhall, on I-5 – also called Fremont Pass – is the entrance to the dry lake.

      Nearby Chatsworth and Calabasas, southern California, also provided locations. The chase by Indians was staged at Lucerne Dry Lake near Victorville, California, recreated by stunt artist Yakima Canutt from the 1937 Monogram movie Riders of the Dawn, which was filmed at the same location. To soften the ground for filming, 20 acres of ground had to be dug up by tractor.

      The real journey of the movie, though, is from the Western Street at Republic Studios (the town of ‘Tonto’) to the Goldwyn Studios (‘Lordsburg’), where the interiors were filmed

      Goofs
      * Crew or equipment visible: As the stagecoach crosses the river at the burnt out ferry, the shadow of a camera is clearly visible on the driver's back.

      * Continuity: In the begining of the film, when the stagecoach is going into Tonto street, we see its shadow to one side. In the next shot the shadow is on the other side.

      * Continuity: In the fight between the stagecoach's passengers and the Indians, we see the same image of one Indian, with a lance in his hand, falling with his horse two times. One time shot by Marshal Curly and another time shot by Hatfield.

      * Revealing mistakes: In the beginning sequence when the stage is coming into town you can see that the buildings are stage facades as the camera shot is at an angle and it is clear there is no structure behind the false front.

      * Revealing mistakes: In the scene at Apache Wells where Chris rushes in to wake the Marshall played by George Bancroft to say his wife has run off, Bancroft and John Wayne are chained together at the ankle. George Bancroft delivers his line but moves his chained leg to far, jerking the chains around Wayne's ankle. Wayne yelps and grabs his ankle. As Bancroft turns toward Wayne to undo the chains, Bancroft is clearly struggling not to break up laughing as Wayne glares at him.

      Memorable Quotes

      Filming Locations
      Beale's Cut, Newhall, California, USA
      Calabasas, California, USA
      Canon City, Colorado, USA
      Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California, USA
      Iverson Ranch, Chatsworth, Los Angeles, California, USA
      Kayenta, Arizona, USA
      Kern County, California, USA
      Kern River, Bakersfield, California, USA
      Kern River, California, USA
      Kernville, California, USA
      Lucerne Dry Lake, California, USA
      Mesa, Arizona, USA
      Monument Valley, Utah, USA
      Newhall, California, USA
      RKO Encino Ranch - Balboa Boulevard & Burbank Boulevard, Encino, Los Angeles, California, USA
      Victorville, California, USA
      Samuel Goldwyn/Warner Hollywood Studios (The Lot ) - 1041 N. Formosa Ave.
      Best Wishes
      Keith
      London- England

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    • Stagecoach is a 1939 American Western film directed by John Ford,
      starring Claire Trevor and John Wayne in his breakthrough role.
      The screenplay, written by Dudley Nichols and Ben Hecht, is an adaptation of "The Stage to Lordsburg",
      a 1937 short story by Ernest Haycox.
      The film follows a group of strangers riding on a stagecoach through dangerous Apache territory.

      Although Ford had made many Westerns in the silent film era,
      he had never previously directed a sound Western.
      Between 1929 and 1939, he directed films in almost every other genre,
      including Wee Willie Winkie (1937), starring Shirley Temple.

      Stagecoach was the first of many Westerns that Ford shot using Monument Valley,
      in the American south-west on the Arizona–Utah border, as a location,
      many of which also starred John Wayne.
      In Stagecoach the director skillfully blended shots of Monument Valley
      with shots filmed at Iverson Movie Ranch in Chatsworth, California, and other locations.
      The members of the production crew were billeted in Kayenta, in Northeastern Arizona, in an old CCC camp.
      Conditions were spartan, productions hours long, and weather conditions at this 5700 foot elevation
      were extreme with constant strong winds and low temperatures.
      Nonetheless, director John Ford was satisfied with the crew's location work.
      For this location, filming took place near Goulding's Trading Post on the Utah border,
      about 25 miles from Kayenta.

      What can you say about the film that made Duke a star!

      User Review
      The classic film that started it all.
      20 September 2003 | by SanDiego (The Beach)

      The Overland Stage Lines stagecoach is traveling from the frontier town of Tonto, Arizona to Lordsburg, New Mexico. Geronimo, the Apache chief, has just jumped the reservation and starts an uprising. Before leaving Tonto, the passengers are notified by the Calvary that they are now traveling at their own considerable risk but they will be escorted by the soldiers (here's a clue: don't believe it). Among the passengers are a prostitute being thrown out of town by a group of women with their noses so stuck up in the air you could fly flags off of them. She is joined by a drunken doctor, a gentlemen card shark, a meek whiskey salesman, a crooked banker, a pregnant woman on her way to meet her husband, and a young cowboy who just broke out of jail and out to revenge his family's murder. The coach driver and his shotgun complete the group.

      It's all based on a short story called appropriately Stage to Lordsburg but also on a French story (Guy de Maupassant's Boule de Suif) with similar characters traveling in a coach during the Franco-Prussian War.

      The basic structure of the plot is also familiar to fans of disaster films. Passengers are introduced, board a common conveyance and face a tremendous danger. The exciting adventure of who lives, who dies, will the stage make it to its destination, and what happens next is highlighted by perhaps the most famous stunts in film history by the most famous and respected stuntman of all Yakima Canutt. If one of the stunts looks familiar, Steven Speilberg recreated it for his first Indiana Jones film.

      The film is also a lot more. Unlike other westerns up to its time which were mainly shoot-em-ups between the good guys in the white hats and the bad guys in the black hats, it examines very serious social issues and how different people look down at others differently. Besides prejudice, some of the characters are flawed with alcoholism, greed and revenge. We also see the good in bad people with respect for new life and ultimately redemption. Nominated for seven Academy Awards, including Best Picture, Best Director, Best Cinematography, Best Interior Decoration, Best Film Editing, Best Supporting Actor (won) and Best Score (won), Stagecoach was John Ford's first sound Western and elevated the genre in both critical praise and popularity. The low camera angles in Monument Valley would become a John Ford trademark. Despite doing 70 films, this is the one that made Wayne a star and it's easy to see why. Many consider it his best performance; both subtle and clear he cares for the needs of the people around him and yearns for his own need for a home, a wife and a family. It is considered one of the great films in cinemas greatest year, 1939. Gone With the Wind, Goodbye Mr. Chips, Mr. Smith Goes to Washington, Wuthering Heights, Dark Victory, The Wizard of Oz, Of Mice and Men and Ninotchka were all nominated for best picture alongside Stagecoach that year.

      Regarding the political incorrectness of an Apache uprising, well, they happened. If you just happened to be in a stagecoach in the middle of the southwest during an Apache uprising chances are you would be killed. This story does not examine the reasons for the uprising only the effects on a group of travelers trying to travel through it.
      Best Wishes
      Keith
      London- England

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    • Hi

      Talking of continuity when Ford was filming the stagecach being chased by the Indians it appeares that the coach is travellig from left to right and later from right to left.

      This wasn't a goof Ford wanted to catch as much light as possible so in order to do so he turned the stagecoach round.

      Orson Wells thought that Ford was the only director who could have got away with it.


      Regards

      Arthur
      Walk Tall - Talk Low
    • Originally posted by arthurarnell@Jan 7 2006, 01:03 PM
      Hi

      Talking of continuity when Ford was filming the stagecach being chased by the Indians it appeares that the coach is travellig from left to right and later from right to left.

      This wasn't a goof Ford wanted to catch as much light as possible so in order to do so he turned the stagecoach round.

      Orson Wells thought that Ford was the only director who could have got away with it.
      Regards

      Arthur
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      Hi Arthur,
      Thank you for this detail, I didn't saw it before. But the scene of the chase are so brilliant that it doesnt matter, that it has nothing to do with reality. I like the way it is shoot and all that horse stunts, and geneus Canutt (I have read his memories about filming this scene in Dan Fords book, it seems from the book that it was Duke who bring him to the picture).
      Regards,
      Vera
    • Hi Vera

      Apparantly Cannutt did the stunt in two parts the first sitting on the horses and then the part where he let the coach role over him.

      At the end of the shot Ford was anxious that they had caught it all on film as he was afraid to do it again.

      Cannutt would have been quite happy to repeat it.

      Regards

      Arthur
      Walk Tall - Talk Low
    • Hi all,
      Just came from the theater were The Stagecoach were shown on the big screen. It is really another impression of the movie. But the copy didn't seem so sharp as on DVD, I guess were did they got it.
      I really like this movie, the way how Ford depictes different kinds of people (it is seems to me that there is no unimportaint people for him) and of course great performance of Duke. I enjoy it all!
      Before the performance it was said that Kurosava thought that Ford was the gretest director and he influenced him greatly.
      Regards,
      Senta
    • Memorable Quotes

      First line, spoken by Duke, in an 'A' MOVIE,

      Hi ya, buck, Hi ya Curley

      Henry, the Ringo Kid: Well, there are some things a man just can't run away from.

      Dallas: Well, you gotta live no matter what happens.

      Marshal Curly Wilcox: You can find another wife.
      Chris: Sure I can find another wife. But she take my rifle and horse. Oh, I'll never sell her. I love her so much. I beat her with a whip and she never gets tired.
      Dr. Josiah Boone: Your wife?
      Chris: No, my horse. I can find another wife easy, yes, but not a horse like that!

      Ringo Kid: Well, I guess you can't break out of prison and into society in the same week.

      Ringo Kid: You might need me and this here Winchester, Curly.

      [the telegraph breaks off in mid-message]
      Capt. Sickel: Well? What's wrong?
      Telegraph operator: The line went dead, sir.
      Capt. Sickel: What have you got here?
      Telegraph operator: Only the first word, sir.
      Capt. Sickel: (reading) Geronimo.

      [Lt. Blanchard has just informed the stagecoach occupants that the cavalry will not escort them to Lordsburg]
      Marshal Curly Wilcox: This stage is going to Lordsburg. If you think it isn't safe, we can get there without you soldier boys.

      Henry Gatewood: So you're the notorious Ringo Kid.
      The Ringo Kid: My friends just call me Ringo - nickname since I was a kid. My name is Henry.

      The Ringo Kid: That was my kid brother that broke his arm. You did a good job, Doc, even if you were drunk.
      Dr. Josiah Boone: Thank you, son. Professional compliments are always pleasing.

      Marshal Curly Wilcox: Now folks, if we push on we can get to Apache Wells by sundown.
      Soldiers there will give us an escort as far as the ferry. After that, it's a hoot and a holler to Lordsburg.
      We got four men who handle firearms - five with you, Ringo. Doc can shoot if sober.

      [the stagecoach occupants vote on whether to continue without a cavalry escort]
      Marshal Curly Wilcox: You, Doc?
      Dr. Josiah Boone: I'm not only a philosopher, sir, I'm a fatalist. Somewhere, sometime,
      there may be the right bullet or the wrong bottle waiting for Josiah Boone. Why worry about when or where?

      [Mrs. Mallory, a passenger, has just given birth]
      Buck: Hey, Curly, do you think I should charge Mrs. Mallory's baby half fare?

      Dr. Josiah Boone: I'll take that shotgun, Luke.
      Luke Plummer: You'll take it in the belly if you don't get out of my way.

      Ed (editor): Billy! Billy! Kill that story about the Republican Convention in Chicago and take this down.
      "The Ringo Kid was killed on Main Street in Lordsburg tonight. And among the additional dead were..." Leave that blank for a spell.
      Billy Pickett: I didn't hear any shootin', Ed.
      Ed (editor): You will, Billy, you will.

      Dr. Josiah Boone: Jerry, I'll admit as one man to another that, economically, I haven't been of much value to you.
      But do you suppose you could put one on credit?
      Jerry (bartender): If talk was money, Doc, you'd be the best customer I had.

      Buck: If I was you, I'd let them shoot it out.
      Marshal Curly Wilcox: Let who?
      Buck: Luke Plummer and the Kid. There would be a lot more peace in this territory if that Luke Plummer was so full of lead he couldn't hold his liquor.

      Henry, the Ringo Kid: Hold it!

      Buck: If there's anything I don't like, it's driving a stagecoach through Apache country.

      [first lines]
      Cavalry scout: These hills here are full of Apaches. They've burnt every ranch building in sight.
      [referring to Indian scout]
      Cavalry scout: He had a brush with them last night. Says they're being stirred up by Geronimo.
      Capt. Sickel: Geronimo? How do we know he isn't lying?
      Cavalry scout: No, he's a Cheyenne. They hate the Apaches worse than we do.

      [last lines]
      Dr. Josiah Boone: Well, they're saved from the blessings of civilization.
      Marshal Curly Wilcox: Yeah.
      [laughs]
      Marshal Curly Wilcox: Doc, I'll buy you a drink.
      Dr. Josiah Boone: Just one.

      Dr. Josiah Boone: [drunkenly to his hideous landlady upon eviction] Is this the face that wrecked 1000 ships and burned the towerless tops of Illium?
      Farewell, fair Helen.

      Dr. Josiah Boone: You had broken your arm, I believe. It was Christmas Eve when your parents brought you in.
      I was celebrating, having a few drinks with the boys. I had just been discharged from the Union Army after the War of the Rebellion.
      Hatfield: You mean the War Against the Southern Confederacy.
      Dr. Josiah Boone: I don't mean anything of the kind.
      Ringo Kid: It was my kid brother whose arm you set, Doc.

      Hatfield: A gentleman doesn't smoke in the presence of a lady.
      Dr. Josiah Boone: Three weeks ago I took a bullet out of a man who was shot by a gentleman. The bullet was in his back!
      Hatfield: You mean to insinuate...
      Ringo Kid: Sit down, mister. Doc don't mean no harm.

      INFORMATION IMDb
      Best Wishes
      Keith
      London- England
    • I have seen the 1986 version with Johnny Cash, Willie Nelson, Waylon Jennings and Kris Kristoferson. It is different the the original and obviously you have a bunch of singers so the acting is not great, but it is watchable. I have also seen the 1960's(not sure of year at the moment) version with Ann Margeret. I liked that one, it follows the original pretty close.
      Life is hard, its even harder when your stupid!!
      -John Wayne
    • Hi,

      Whilst researching the Movie Locations,
      I can across this trivia, and thought it worth posting,

      Information from
      The Worldwide Guide to Movie Locations

      Wisely, John Waynes character name was changed from Malpais Bill to the Ringo Kid.

      The film established Monument Valley, on the Arizona-Utah border, as an icon of the American West, although, of the passengers, only John Wayne actually trekked out to Utah. None of the principals made it past Californiaís San Fernando Valley.

      Monument Valley, an area of striking, flat-topped mesas and buttes, was a tough location in 1938, at the end of a 200-mile dirt road from Flagstaff, Arizona. The Navajo, already troubled by disease and unemployment, were employed to play Apaches – one of the many nations they were to play over the years. The Valley is not a National Park, as you might expect, but a Tribal Park still belonging to, and managed by, the Navajo nation.

      But the Valley is only a part of Stagecoach. The river crossing is the Kern River, near to Kernville, 40 miles east of Bakersfield, California. The old wagon cut at Newhall, on I-5 ‚ also called Fremont Pass ‚ is the entrance to the dry lake.

      Nearby Chatsworth and Calabasas also provided locations. The chase by Indians was staged at the Muroc Dry Lake salt flats near Victorville, California, recreated by stunt artist Yakima Canutt from the 1937 Monogram movie Riders of the Dawn, which was filmed at the same location.

      To soften the ground for filming, 20 acres of ground had to be dug up by tractor. The real journey of the movie, though, is from the Western Street at Republic Studios (the town of 'Tonto') to the Goldwyn Studios ('Lordsburg'), where the interiors were filmed.
      Best Wishes
      Keith
      London- England
    • Re: Stagecoach

      Hi All

      Watched Stagecoach tonight. Great show.

      Just out of curiosity you know the scene were the Stagecoach picks up Ringo is this location repeated just before going into the Indian chase except the Stagecoach is filmed from the right as opposed to straight on.

      Watched the film many times but never noticed that before.


      Mike
    • Re: Stagecoach

      Hi Mike

      The scene when Duke twirls his rifle was apparently filmed in a studio according to Michael Munn's book the man behind the myth.

      In addition to this the book also claims that this movie did not make duke an overnight star as had been previously claimed and Duke would have to resort to supporting roles for another few years until he established himself as a huge star.

      :agent:
      Regards
      Robbie
    • Re: Stagecoach

      Hi Robbie

      I would say he was right on both counts. The moving of the camera to a close up on John Wayne was more than likely done in a contolled environment like a studio.

      Whilst Stagecoach was a great movie and got John Wayne noticed it took the films between Stagecoach to 1945 to cement his status. He was still in supporting star staus as late as They Were Expendable in 1945 and Fort Apache in 1948. Fonda and Montgomery being the main stars for Ford.

      After, She Wore a Yellow Ribbon, Red River & Sands of Iwo Jima with the exception of cameos he was always the main star.



      Mike