So far, what we can see here, is that it seems that quite a few,
documentaries, have only been aired on TV and at best,
have only been released on VHS.
Now that most of Duke's available movies are now already out on DVD,
there seem a perfect marketing opportunity,
for the distributors to get hold of these docs,
and get them digitally transferred!!
Duke's Documentaries
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Hi Keith
I definitely think there is a market for DVD releases of John Wayne documentaries especially appropiate within 100th Anniversary year.
The John Ford/John Wayne: The Filmmaker and The Legend was made
with the co-operation of Wayne Enterprises so lets hope somebody has inspiration.Mike
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Would love to see dozens of each of Dukes documentaries overflowing the $5.99 bins at K-mart
Chester
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Hi Chester
It would be a great way of getting John Wayne introduced to the next generation
Mike
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I'm a serious collector of Wayne/Hawks/Ford documentaries.
I'm still desperately looking for the HATARI! Featurette.
It was shoot in Africa during the making and was distributed on 16mm and 35mm.
Title: BIG GAME HUNTING WITHOUT GUNS.
Also SPIRIT OF THE ALAMO
& DIRECTED BY JOHN FORD
Anybody?
I have a lot of stuff for trade.
Also I can't find DVD reviews here on the board. RIO BRAVO is out already? (2-Disc).
I wanted to know whether Warner was capable this time of digging out the fabulous Behind-the-scenes footage they have on my favorite Wayne-film. It is all in color, shows
Ricky & Dino behind the scenes And I guess Wayne talking to Ford (who visited). A buddy of mine saw it in the Warners vaults and when I was with Warner Home for a business meeting I asked them about it. They said, whenever we're doing a REAL release of that film, that might be the moment to use it...
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Hi Mike
I can help you on one send me a PM and we can get something arranged.
Best
Mike -
I now have "On Board With The Duke" on D.V.D. and it turned out Very Good ! And what Chester Said is True, It will Bring A Tear To Your Eyes !!!
Chilibill
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The Republic Pictures Story released in 1991 and available on NSTC video.
A very comprehensive and nearly 2 hours documentary on Republic Pictures.
Obviously, John Wayne features in this story with clips from his 33 movies he made at Republic.
The video is spilt into sections covering various areas of Republic's output.
There are portions on the numerous Serials such as westerns, super heroes and science
fiction.
Musical Cowboys Gene Autry and Roy Rogers are interviewed with numerous clips from their movies.
War Movies which covers Republic WW2 war output and includes Flying Tigers Fighting Seabees and Sands of Iwo Jima
John Wayne This covers Duke's output with Republic from Westward Ho in 1936 to The Quiet Man in 1952. Approximately 15 minutes in length in mainly consists of clips from his movies at Republic with little discussion of his dealings with Herbert Yates.
Extras and Effects shows what the Studios special effects and miniatures produced for their movies.
Later Years shows the move away from small movies bigger artistic movies and into areas such as film noir, anti communist and romantic movies and the final westerns plus the demise of Republic with television.
The Future shows the rise of a production company called Republic Pictures in the 1990s which were producing new movies for Television and Cable.
All in all a detailed documentary. A little more information on the studio history and the illustrious Herbert Yates and more on John Wayne would have been nice.
Mike -
Does anyone have this documentary on tape? If so I would be interested in a video copy.
Thanks.
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History Zone Films: Remember The Alamo BBC TV 2000 (50 mins)
Directed by Jonathan Gili
Production Company BBC TV/History Channel U.K
.Narrated by Samuel West
Documentary telling the true story of the Alamo,
a fortified Franciscan fortress where 1600 Mexican soldiers
slaughtered 200 Texans, including Davy Crockett and Jim Bowie,
in March 1836.
For a UK production, about something,
so very American, this wasn't a bad doc at all!!
Featured Duke, on the set of the Alamo,
and also Duke, showing is support for the Marines -
Thought I had found a new documentary but after I translated the German I realised it was their version of Bigger than Life. So just in case you hit the buy it now button.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/DVD-JOHN-WAYNE-GROSSER-ALS-IM-LEBEN-NEU-OVP-GROssER_W0QQitemZ330163126207QQihZ014QQcategoryZ83740QQrdZ1QQssPageNameZWD1VQQcmdZViewItem
Mike -
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So far, what we can see here, is that it seems that quite a few,
documentaries, have only been aired on TV and at best,
have only been released on VHS.
Now that most of Duke's available movies are now already out on DVD,
there seem a perfect marketing opportunity,
for the distributors to get hold of these docs,
and get them digitally transferred!!
Hi Keith
Seems to me a perfect opportunity for one of your excellent sticky lists here!
How about it pardner? -
Elly, Hi,
We can give it a whirl!!
Hi Keith here is a VERY rough starting list which I can already see is missing on board with the duke.
I can recomend the Merian C Cooper documentary, not much of JW in it but BOY what a guy MC was!! I was exhausted just watching this.
1937 Nation Builds Under Fire, A
1950 Dangerous Stranger
1954 Flying in the fifties
1956 Searchers The: an appreciation
1961 Challenge of Ideas, The (USA Information Films)
1970 No Substitute for Victory
1971 Duke and the General
1977 That's Action
1980 John Wayne Story, the early years
1980 John Wayne Story, the later years
1980 John Wayne the Duke Lives On: A Tribute
1984 Cowboys of the Saturday Matinee
1987 John Wayne an American Legend hosted by James Whitmore
1988 AMC Cowboys Harry Carey Jr and Ben Johnson
1988 We Can Keep You Forever
1989 John Wayne Standing Tall
1990 John Wayne Bigger than Life
1990 Memories of Hollywood
1990 Tony Curtis tribute to John Wayne
1991 John Wayne Anthology
1992 Hollywood the early years the Young Duke Wayne before stagecoach
1996 Hollywood's Leading Men - John Wayne the biography series
1996 John Wayne American Legend (A&E biography)
1996 Young Duke the making of a movie star
1997 John Wayne: Behind the scenes with the Duke
1997 Reputations John Wayne the unquiet american - (2 episodes of the Biography TV series)
1998 John Wayne on film on Angel and the badman
1999 Turning of the Earth John Ford, John Wayne and the Searchers, A
2000 Golden Saddles, Silver spurs
2001 Commemoration, Howard Hawks Rio Bravo
2001 John Wayne Scrapbook
2001 Monument Valley: John Ford Country (aka John Ford's America)
2001 Old Tuzscon where the legends walked
2001 On Location with John Wayne
2002 John Ford and John Wayne, The filmaker and the legend, American Masters
2004 From the Batjac vaults (Leonard Maltin interviews Michael Wayne 26 October 1994 Entertainment tonight)
2004 Hollywood Greats John Wayne (BBC Series presented by Jonathan Ross)
2004 Quiet man, the joy of Ireland
2004 True grit locations Aspen Gold
2004 True Grit then and now
2004 True grit Working with the Duke
2004 True Writing documentary
2004 Wayne and Ford, an interview with Peter Bogdanovich and Harry Carey jnr
2005 Apache, the
2005 I'm King Kong! The exploits of Merian C Cooper
2005 John Wayne with Terry Leonard Working with a western legend
2005 Law and the lawless
2005 Profile of James Edward Grant
2005 Stagecoach a story of redemption
2006 Batjac Story part 1 (1953 - 1963)
2006 John Ford's home movies
2006 John Wayne stock company: Gail Russell
2006 John Wayne stock company: Harry Carey Jnr
2006 John Wayne stock company: Sean McClory
2006 John Wayne stock company: Ward Bond -
Great list Elly!!
There is a Discovery programme on the Death of John Wayne which is a discussion about whether he caught cancer from filming The Conqueor in Utah.
Also, there is the infamous Barry Norman Hollywood Greats on John Wayne from 1980 but I cant imagine anyone wanting to watch liberal pinky Barry grudgingly give John Wayne some praise through buckets of sarcasm and a hacket job !!
Funny how the only Hollywood Greats ever to be remade was John Wayne.
Mike -
Hello Mike and Keith
Thanks for the info.
I knew this was a very rough list partly because I have some stuff catalogued as TV others as documetaries and used to have some catalogued as biographies?
I am not sure what we should include in this list? What are your thoughts on this please?
Also what about longer documentaries like Martin Scorceses personal journey through American movies 300+ minutes but there is quite a big 35+ minutes section on westerns with JW? on the other hand there are some like the Hollywood series narrated by James Mason aprrox 450 minutes in total JW appears for approx 5 minutes.
Elly -
Another political documentary DVD that involved John Wayne was No Substitute for Victory which was primarily about the war being fought in Vietnam at the time and delves into the links with previous conflicts from 1945 to 1970. John Wayne provides the narration links between interviewees such as General Clarke, Vietnam Veterans and journalists like Lowell Thomas.
At 73 minutes it is interesting to watch and most of the Wayne links are filmed in his den with his Oscar for True Grit on display. Documentary dates from 1970. Film is available on DVD in Region Free. Print and Sound are Very Good.
Mike -
Mike, I'm assuming you have this DVD?
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Hi Kevin
Yes, it was widely available under a number of different covers. Amazon or Ebay would be your best best. It was around $5.00 to $7.00 mark.
Mike -
Has anyone, come across any 'new' documentary releases?
Here is an earlier thread, I've copied over here:-
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AEC23
The Searchers Documentary
I ran across some info on a documentary made about the Searchers and was curious if anyone has seen it. It's called A Turning of the Earth:John Ford, John Wayne, and the Searchers. The review I read said... ,"featuring tons of outtakes and rare footage from "the searchers" intercut with interviews of many of the surviving cast and crew, "the turning of the earth" is an outstanding documentary about the making of one of the greatest films of all time. it's insightful, well-researched and well-made, one of the finest films on the making of a film. "the turning of the earth" is (as far as i know) only available with "the searchers" special edition laserdisc, but it's well worth seeking out for any john wayne/john ford fans. for fans of "the searchers" it's an absolute must."It said only available with the laserdisc. Has anyone found it anywhere else? It really sounded like something that I would love to see.
Old June 6th, 2003
dukefan1
Talking
I would love to see that also. Hope someone knows of where it can be had. dukefan1
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Robbie
That would be brilliant actually, as you have said it contains deleted scenes something which I am very interested inB)
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RobbieQuoteOld June 7th, 2003
smokey
sorry aec23 have never heard about this one and to get lazer disc you must be joking we are years behind so we may have to wait ages before it comes here :lol:cheers smokey
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chester7777
Smokey,I don't know how to tell you this, but if it hasn't been there already, I don't think laserdisc is EVER coming to Australia - it's been here since the 70's but only really lasted maybe 5 to 10 years. Any laserdiscs or players are only available at yard sales or maybe on E-bay (that international garage sale).
While they had a good quality picture, laserdiscs had the misfortune of having video tapes enter the market and everybody went that direction instead. As I recall, laserdiscs were very expensive, but hey, having full length movies in one's own home was an entirely new concept.
It does sound like a fascinating piece of work, however, and somebody out there somewhere probably has a copy of it.
Yours ,
Chester
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Chisum
Is what you are talking about the four segments from the Warner Bros. Presents TV series hosted by Gig Young, providing an insiders's look at the Monument Valley Location filming and featuring co-stars Jeffrey Hunter and Natalie Wood?Old June 11th, 2003
chester7777
Chisum,You must have the same version of The Searchers that I have, with that special footage at the end of the tape. Reading the description above, I feel fairly certain that it is not the same as what AEC23 is referring to.
Chester
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Old June 24th, 2003
General Sterling Price
I have seen the "Turning of the Earth" and it is quite excellent...They discuss the making of the film, the importance of monument valley, the conditions there, the locals, and tons of amateur video of the Duke and John Ford. They show how they did stunts, they explained Wayne's tribute to Harry Carey Sr. at the end. They have interviews with several of the characters.I obtained this documentary with my purchase of the VHS about 4 years ago. It was just bundled with the movie. And then after the Turning of the Earth, there was a documentary by Patrick Wayne about his reflections of The Searchers...and how when he came in to Jorgenson's house to announce the rescue of Mos Harper and the whereabouts of scar, that all the interruptions his Dad and Ward Bond threw at him while attempting to recite his lines...were all ad lib..unscipted. "Turn around...yeah..your a Yankee calvalryman"--JW and "Who's colonel Greenhill"--Ward Bond All that was not in the script.
These two documentaries are a must see.
GSP
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Old June 24th, 2003
chester7777Send a message via Yahoo to chester7777
General,When you say "bundled with the movie" do you mean it is on the same tape, or a separate tape in a package? My copy of The Searchers has the extra stuff with Gig Young to which Chisum made reference, after the movie, on the same tape.
"The Turning of the Earth" sounds fascinating, and something every John Wayne fan would love to have - I know I would!
Chester
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Old June 24th, 2003
General Sterling Price
Yeah..I just walked into Best Buy in 1999, found The Searchers ... the last one on the shelf in its clamshell case ... turned it over, saw that on the tape the Turning of the Earth was included, and I headed straight to the checkout with it.If you go to amazon.com and buy used, you could check with the seller first to see if that edition includes it. It's weird, because that same appearing release apparently sometimes has the Turning of Earth, sometimes it doesn't. The special wide-screen edition also appeared in the same clamshell case.
I hope you find it...you will not be disappointed. The narrator John Melious does a wonderful job.
GSP
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Old June 24th, 2003
chester7777
OK, I couldn't stand it anymore, and I went to Ebay and did a search for The Searchers (Special Edition), and they had it!! Buy It Now for 8.95, plus shipping.But it's the right one, with The Turning of the Earth. It's available (on VHS only, as near as I can tell), so check it out, you guys!
Yee haw! :lol:
Chester
QuoteOld June 25th, 2003
General Sterling Price
Well done Chester...when you finish watching it, you will have the feeling like you have seen it all over for the first time...let us know what you think!GSP
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itdoOh no! I went from VHS to Laserdisc...
from Laserdisc to DVD...
and now I have to go back buy me a VHS!
They certainly know how to ripp off them fans.
One thing is for sure though: As soon as I've bought it on VHS -
it will be out in a Special DVD collector's box! Ouch!QuoteDisplay More
Old June 25th, 2003
chester7777
You know, itdo, that is the truth!I was kind of bummed to buy another VHS when I already have one. However, each one has a different "special feature" and The Turning of the Earth sounded too good to pass up, so I bit the bullet and did it.
And, sure as shootin', later this year out will come the DVD with both special features, plus more! Murphy's law . . .
Chester
QuoteOld June 30th, 2003
AEC23
Well, I just got my copy of the documentary, and it is really good. There are a lot of home movie shots with the Duke and Ford. Patrick Wayne gives both sides of the story on the discovery of Monument Valley. It was worth buying.QuoteDisplay MoreOld 1 Week Ago
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Originally Posted by chester7777 View Post
And, sure as shootin', later this year out will come the DVD with both special features, plus more!
Just to update this thread . . . after so many years . . . .By now, almost anyone who has been on this board for almost any length of time knows that The Searchers was released in a special "Ultimate Collector's Edition" DVD set in 2006 and did indeed include the documentary "The Turning of the Earth" along with other bonus materials.
If you own it and haven't taken the time to watch it, I encourage you to make the time. You won't be sorry!
If you'd like to learn more about Duke-related documentaries, check out Keith's comprehensive list, and the related discussion thread.
Chester
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