Shenandoah (1965)

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    • Shenandoah (1965)


      Information From IMDb

      Plot Summary
      Charlie Anderson is a farmer in Shenandoah, Virginia and finds himself
      (and his family) in the middle of the Civil War.
      He decides not to get involved in the war because
      he believes that this is not "his" war.
      But he eventually has to get involved when his youngest boy
      is taken prisoner by the North.
      Written by Paul T. Mason

      Full Cast
      James Stewart ... Charlie Anderson
      Doug McClure ... Lt. Sam
      Glenn Corbett ... Jacob Anderson
      Patrick Wayne ... James Anderson
      Rosemary Forsyth ... Jennie Anderson
      Phillip Alford ... Boy Anderson
      Katharine Ross ... Mrs. Ann Anderson
      Charles Robinson ... Nathan Anderson
      Jim McMullan ... John Anderson (as James McMullan)
      Tim McIntire ... Henry Anderson
      Gene Jackson ... Gabriel (as Eugene Jackson Jr.)
      Paul Fix ... Dr. Tom Witherspoon
      Denver Pyle ... Pastor Bjoerling
      George Kennedy ... Col. Fairchild
      James Best ... Carter, Rebel Soldier
      Tom Simcox ... Lt. Johnson
      Berkeley Harris ... Capt. Richards
      Harry Carey Jr. ... Jenkins (rebel soldier)
      Kevin Hagen ... Mule (rebel deserter)
      Dabbs Greer ... Abernathy
      Strother Martin ... Train Engineer
      Kelly Thordsen ... Federal Purchasing Agent Carroll
      Rayford Barnes ... Horace - Rebel Deserter (uncredited)
      Lane Bradford ... Tatum (uncredited)
      James Carter ... Rider with Purchasing Agents (uncredited)
      John Daheim ... Federal Purchasing Agent Osborne (uncredited)
      Edward Faulkner ... Union Sergeant (uncredited)
      Herman Hack ... Church Member (uncredited)
      James Heneghan Jr. ... Young Picket on Road (uncredited)
      Robert 'Buzz' Henry ... Rider with Purchasing Agents (uncredited)
      Hoke Howell ... Crying Prisoner (uncredited)
      Leroy Johnson ... Rider with Purchasing Agents (uncredited)
      Matthew McCue ... Man in Church (uncredited)
      Pae Miller ... Black Woman (uncredited)
      Gregg Palmer ... Guard (uncredited)
      Wayne Peters ... Confederate Corporal (uncredited)
      Beverly Randolph ... Baby Martha Anderson (uncredited)
      Kimberly Randolph ... Baby Martha Anderson (uncredited)
      Bob Steele ... Union Train Guard (uncredited)
      Peter Wayne ... Confederate Corporal (uncredited)
      Henry Wills ... Rider with Purchasing Agents (uncredited)
      Joe Yrigoyen ... Federal Purchasing Agent Marshall (uncredited)

      Writing Credits
      James Lee Barrett written by

      Original Music
      Frank Skinner

      William H. Clothier

      The opening battle scenes are taken from Raintree County (1957) and are printed as a mirror image of the original footage. (The same scenes can also be seen in, among other films, How the West Was Won (1962).)

      The movie was turned into the stage musical under the same title in 1975 starring John Cullum.

      Katherine Ross' film debut.

      In Disneyland's 50th fireworks show, "Remember, Dreams Come True," a portion of the music can be heard. It plays before the Frontierland sequence.

      In the wedding scene, the corporal states that "the Yankees ... have broken thru at Winchester ..." That occurred on Monday, Sep. 19, 1864 (the 3rd Battle of Winchester).

      Donna Theodore was nominated for the 1975 Tony Award (New York City) for Supporting or Features Actress in a Musical for "Shenandoah" in the role of Anne.

      The Broadway musical based on this movie opened on January 7, 1975 at the Alvin Theater and ran for 1050 performances and received 1975 Tony Award nominations for Best Musical, Book and Score.

      The train that Anderson stops is pulled by a locomotive called the 'General Gault'. The source of the name is unclear. The only noted pre-ACW military person of that name served in Napoleon's forces. A search of the web, reveals only two other Generals of that name, one from the USA (Army ?) in the 1950s and one Canadian (served in the Second World War).

      * Crew or equipment visible: During much of the farm sequences, you can see the distinct shadow of the camera.

      * Factual errors: When Boy and other confederate troops are being attacked by union troops, Boy is firing a Trapdoor Springfield rifle, which was not invented until after the civil war.

      * Anachronisms: There are power lines crossing the river, in the opening shot

      * Revealing mistakes: When Pa Anderson first emerges from the front door of the farmhouse, he casts a shadow in two different directions on the wall behind him.

      * Anachronisms: The Andersons carry repeating rifles, which were available in the 1860s, but quite expensive, and also quite rare. However, the rifles carried in the movie are of a type (with a loading gate) not invented until 1866.

      * Revealing mistakes: During the boy's battle the morning after his escape from prison, you can see the bayonet of a confederate soldier wobble revealing that it is made of rubber.

      * Anachronisms: In the scene in which Charlie Anderson talks to Colonel Fairchild about his mistakenly abducted son in the Union camp, there is clearly a white automobile being driven (from right to left) in the background.

      * Factual errors: When Boy and Gabriel are found by the creek there is a young African-American soldier with the Union band. Then later Gabriel, a young African-American boy, is seen fighting along side Union troops. Free Blacks and former slaves did not integrate into Union regiments, but instead, served in all-Negro regiments.

      * Factual errors: Sam tells the Confederate prisoners that the war is lost and to go home. However, references to both Gettysburg and Vicksburg indicate the film takes place in the summer of 1863 two years before the statement could be accurately made.

      * Anachronisms: The locomotive on the train that gets burned is equipped with air brakes, which were not invented until 1872. Although the locomotive is mostly filmed at such an angle that the air brake equipment is not visible, a connecting air hose can be seen on the front when the train is stopping for the fire on the track, and whenever the train is stopped, hissing noises from the air compressor can be heard.

      * Factual errors: Dr. Witherspoon tells Charlie Anderson that one of his boys fell at Gettysburg at Little Round Top. No Virginia regiments fought on Little Round Top.

      * Factual errors: In the battle where Boy is wounded, the manner in which the Confederate soldier loads his weapon is wrong. He would have used paper cartridges, not separate powder and ball. Unless carrying a personally owned weapon (which he is obviously not), a soldier would not even have a powder flask.

      Memorable Quotes

      Filming Locations
      Golden Oak Ranch - 19802 Placerita Canyon Road, Newhall, California, USA
      Janss Conejo Ranch, Thousand Oaks, California, USA
      Oregon, USA
      Stage 27, Universal Studios - 100 Universal City Plaza, Universal City, California, USA
      Best Wishes
      London- England

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    • Re: Classic Movie Westerns- Shenandoah (1965)

      Shenandoah is a 1965 American Civil War film starring
      James Stewart and directed by Andrew V. McLaglen.
      Though set during the American Civil War, the film's strong antiwar
      and humanitarian themes resonated with audiences in later years
      as attitudes began to change toward the Vietnam War.
      Upon its release, the film was praised for its message,
      as well as its technical production.
      In 1966, the film was nominated for an Academy Award for Best Sound.
      Due in part to her performance in Shenandoah, Rosemary Forsyth
      was nominated for a Golden Globe for Most Promising Newcomer - Female.

      I liked this movie and it's as good as they can get.
      Great story and acted by some of the finest.
      Indeed, Duke may as well have been in this movie
      everyone else he knew, and worked with seemed to be there.
      From Director Andrew McLaglen, to cameraman William H. Clothier
      Jimmy Stewart to Stother Martin,
      Harry Carey Jr., Paul Fix, even Bob Steele!
      There were lots of 'Pals' in this one.
      Son Patrick was also there, but in a sad scene got killed, very sad!!

      Overall a great classic movie.

      User Review
      Trying To Live Between The Union And The Confederacy
      6 October 2008 | by sddavis63 (Niagara Region, Ontario, Canada)

      This movie starts out strong. It combines a pretty good use of humour (there are 4 or 5 very funny scenes in the first half hour or so of the movie - Charlie's grace, the scenes in the church, Sam's proposal to Jenny and asking her father for her hand, even the fight with the federal agents with "the boy" continually being knocked into the trough

      with a pretty solid account of the challenges faced by the Anderson

      family in trying to basically keep out of the Civil War. Charlie Anderson (James Stewart) is the patriarch of the family. He's a Virginia farmer, proud of the fact that his family owns 500 acres and has never owned a single slave and who refuses to fight for the Confederacy but who also won't side with the Union. He figures the war has nothing to do with him and so he keeps himself and his family out of it. Stewart played the role very well. He's a bit of a rougher looking Stewart than I'm accustomed to seeing, but he carries the character of Charlie as he does most of his characters: proud, noble and a man of strong values.

      Unfortunately, after that strong start the movie seems to lose its focus a bit. Charlie's youngest son, known only as "The Boy" in the movie, is taken prisoners by Union soldiers who think he's a rebel, and Charlie and his family - now directly affected by the War - set off to find him, leaving his son and daughter-in-law at home with their baby. Charlie discovers that - away from the relative safety of home - he can't avoid the tragedies of war. The brutality and pointlessness of the War is driven home, but in what I thought was a disjointed fashion that lacked any consistent flow. The movie picks up steam again near the end when Charlie and family return home to a tragic scene, and the image of Charlie at the grave of his wife, two sons and daughter in law was quite moving. The last scene of the movie was, unfortunately, a bit too much of a happy ending.

      To be honest, I found this to be an uneven movie, sometimes very strong and very interesting and at other times lacking power. Frankly, there are better Civil War stories out there that I'd recommend over this one. I'd give it a 5/10
      Best Wishes
      London- England

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    • Re: Classic Movie Westerns- Shenandoah (1965)

      ethanedwards wrote:

      I liked this movie and it's as good as they can get.
      Great story and acted by some of the finest.
      Indeed, Duke may as well have been in this movie
      everyone else he knew, and worked with seemed to be there.
      From Director Andrew McLaglen, to camerman William H. Clothier
      Jimmy Stewart to Stother Martin,
      Harry Carey Jr -Paul Fix, even Bob Steele!
      There were lots of 'Pals' in this one.
      Son Patrick was also there, but in a sad scene got shot, very sad!!

      Overall a great classic movie.

      From Wikipedia

      ethanedwards you made a mistake about pat wayne.he didnt get shot,he got a saber thro him by kevin hagen(a rebel deserter)
    • Re: Classic Movie Westerns- Shenandoah (1965)

      i also like this film.i think this is andrew v mclaglen best western.all of the actor's were on top form.the sad part of the film was when glenn corbett got killed by an union soldier for nothing at all,also when the boy arrives back to the church were very has agreat sound track and the film would bring a teer to the eye.
    • Re: Classic Movie Westerns- Shenandoah (1965)

      ringo kid wrote:

      ethanedwards you made a mistake about pat wayne.he didnt get shot,he got a saber thro him by kevin hagen(a rebel deserter)

      Been a long time since I saw it,
      so thanks for putting me right.
      From now on he got killed, and it was still sad!!
      Best Wishes
      London- England
    • Re: Classic Movie Westerns- Shenandoah (1965)

      It IS a great film, it's just too much of a downer for me. Love the cast tho, and Ol' Jimmy can never do wrong in my book.
    • Re: Classic Movie Westerns- Shenandoah (1965)

      I watched this for the first time recently, it's part of a Jimmy Stewart westerns box set in the UK, and thoroughly enjoyed it.
      As mentioned before, it is more of a moral/ family centred film, that doesn't have a Hollywood ending, but has some really good performances in it. I enjoyed it more than Night passage for instance.

      The DVD box set is a bargain at £9.99 for 7 Jimmy Stewart westerns, delivered free from Amazon.
      "Pour yourself some backbone and shut up!"