True Grit (1969)

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      Just about 40 years ago I saw for the first time what was to become my most favorite movie of all time...... "True Grit". I didn't think that John Wayne could possibly have done a better acting job than he did in the "Searchers" but I was wrong. His performance as Rooster Cogburn in True Grit was absolutely flawless.

      To begin with, nobody, and I mean nobody......could ever ride a quarter horse the way the 'Duke' could. He never "sat" in the saddle......he "stood" in the stirrups and absorbed the shock of the gallup with his legs and let the flexing of his knees control his upper-body movement. When he rode a horse it was as if there were gyroscopic stabilizers hidden under his saddle to smooth out his every movement. With few exceptions, not many on-screen western actors could even handle a slow "trot" without looking like a bouncing 'bobble-headed' toy.

      Wonder how many experienced "horse people" there are on here.? Ever actually try and shoot a Model 94 "modified" Winchester lever action rifle at a full gallup - with one hand - or even two hands for that matter? That rifle was modified for the sole purpose of being able to "cock" it with one hand. If you're lucky you might get off one shot without hitting your own horse in the leg like I once saw happen on the set of the TV version of "Hondo". Ralph Taeger played the part of Hondo Lane in that short lived 1967 series and never rode a horse in his life before "Hondo", unless of course you count the number of times he 'practiced' trying not to fall off of one at the Robert Taylor ranch in Mandeville Canyon near Brentwood, California.

      Thank God, the round that went off accidently in one of the first on location scenes was a blank but the 'wad' that hit the horse in its upper front quarter scared the hell out of it and that gelding almost threw Taeger ass-over-tea kettle at a full gallup. And that was only just the first day of shooting on location near Lancaster, Calif.

      That ".....Fill your hands you son of a bitch...." scene where Rooster takes the reins in his teeth and 'cocks' the Winchester with his right hand while also holding a "navy revolver" in his left hand ..... was nothing short of shear 'Hollywood' genius.

      In the original story, Portis only makes reference to Rooster's rifle at the dugout when he shoots Moon in the leg. However, he did write that Rooster had more than one "saddle revolver" . In that now famous scene, Portis writes: 'Rooster had one of the navy revolvers in his left hand and he held the reins in his right hand'. Then, as the assault begins, Portis further writes: '.....and he took the reins in his teeth and pulled the other saddle revolver and drove his spurs into the flanks of his strong horse Bo and charged directly at the bandits'. Portis then writes: 'He held the revolvers wide on either side of the head of his plunging steed.'

      There aren't too many (even good) movies that really stand out as a true classic unless something as unique as a brilliantly written short piece of dialogue such as: "......Frankly my dear, I don't give a damn." or, "STELLA!!", or the cocking of a Winchester rifle with one hand and the now famous dialogue: "Fill your hands you son of a bitch".

      Without the cocking of that "rifle" with one hand, the 'visual' of that precise moment would not have been nearly as dramatic as it ultimately turned out to be nor would have all of the future promotional post-production advertising looked quite as "artistic" as that one-eyed fat man sitting on top of a horse with a lever action rifle in his right hand - instead of just another navy revolver.

      Sometimes, it's just the 'little things' that are the hardest to forget.

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      Hi Sterling Price,
      thanks for your great post,
      great post on the greatest of films.
      I have welcomed you in the appropriate thread.

      I have also taken this opportunity to update
      the movie review's Trivia and Goofs sections
      Best Wishes
      London- England

      The post was edited 1 time, last by ethanedwards ().

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      Hello and welcome tpo the board, Sterling Price. You nailed that scene with your description. It was a thing of beauty and Duke brought that scene home. I remember reading somewhere that right after filming that scene, the Director told Duke that this could win him an Oscar. I'm glad the film got him that much deserved statue.

      "I couldn't go to sleep at night if the director didn't call 'cut'. "
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      About four and a half years ago on the first page of this thread someone had asked if anyone knew where the filming location was for the "dugout" scene. There were some attempts to try and nail it down but no one ever did quite hit the mark. I've been there several times over the past 35 years and have photographed it myself as part of a photo assignment I had back then. It is in an area known as Hot Creek, California and it is but a mere stone's throw from the Mammoth Lakes Airport. The airfield has only one N/S runway and is bordered on the West by Hwy 395 (split 4 lane).

      Just past the airport (travelling north) is a small 2 lane ashphalt road called: "Hot Creek Hatchery Rd". In about less than 2 miles and travelling east there will be several choices along hot creek to park your vehicle and walk down into the creek. The steam vents are most spectacular during late autumn when the early morning air is cold and crisp.

      I'm going to take the liberty of posting some screen shots from 3 of the most well known movies that were shot there and also one of my own shots at the end to show how different one location can look depending upon one's point of view......

      Jenny's honeymoon cabin - North to Alaska 1959/60

      North to Alaska

      North to Alaska

      JW in North to Alaska - Mt peak on the right is Mt. Whitney, Calif.

      North to Alaska

      Nevada Smith 1965/66 - Steve McQueen and Brian Keith

      Brian Keith in Nevada Smith

      True Grit 1968/69 - Dugout shown in lower left - Ned Pepper's gang riding up in center of frame.

      This is how I photographed the same scene in 1984. Late Autumn and slightly further downstream and "leaning" further out toward the creek in order to include the mountain shown in upper left of the frame. I used a slightly longer than normal lens in order to "compress" the image somewhat and lend more 'drama' to the mountains in the background.

      Ten years ago I had this same image printed on a 28X40 inch stretched canvas and it has hung in my den ever since. I never get tired of looking at it....great memories.
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      thanks for the great photo's of hot creek in mammoth lakes.still tooks the same 15 years after true grit.i wounder does it still look's like that today.also a scene from from hell to texas where don murray comes across chill wills and diane varsi,as they were making camp.
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      Sterling Price wrote:

      About four and a half years ago on the first page of this thread someone had asked if anyone knew where the filming location was for the "dugout" scene. There were some attempts to try and nail it down but no one ever did quite hit the mark. I

      Thanks for the great photos, but I believe we did nail down the location!
      see this post from November 2006

      Obviously we were not able to have the photos you have posted,
      but it does point out, that True Grit, North To Alaska and
      Nevada Smith were filmed at Mammoth Lakes.

      I have also copied your post over to
      Duke's Movie Locations- California
      Best Wishes
      London- England

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      More info on the extras on the True Grit Blu-ray (from

      Paramount's True Grit Blu-ray will include commentary with Western film historian Jeb Rosebrook, editor of True West magazine Bob Boze Bell and historian J. Stuart Rosebrook, featurettes on the writing, locations and working with Wayne, and the theatrical trailer.

      Jeb Rosebrook also wrote the screenplay of Junior Bonner as well as scripts for TV shows such as The Virginian, The Waltons and The Yellow Rose. Here is his IMDB entry:

      Also with his son, Jeb Stuart Rosebrook, he wrote a wonderful article for Arizona Highways about the history of westerns filmed in Arizona. This article includes that full-page shot of John Wayne in Hondo that I posted here a little while ago. I scanned in the article and posted it to my Ben Johnson page last month. You can read it at:
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      DVDBeaver has posted its review of the new True Grit blu-ray, including comparison shots with earlier DVDs. The Blu-ray definitely looks like a big improvement. Reviewer Gary Tooze comments, "The Duke certainly deserved his Oscar. " Amen to that!
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      Just saw the OTG again on TCM the other nite and noticed a couple things for the first time.
      1. Wilfred Brimley in the courtroom scene. He's seated in the front row of the audience, pretty much center. As Alfred Ryder is grilling Rooster, you can see Brimley just over Ryder's right shoulder.
      2. Chuck Hayward and Jim Burke as members of Pepper's gang. They are just to the right of Duvall as the gang rides up to the shanty Moon and Quincy were to meet them at. They both disappear in the gunfight-Burke seems to be the one shot saving Pepper's life, but maybe just doubled the kid that gets killed. Anyhow, both are gone after the battle (but if you watch real close, Burke can be made out doubling Duke in long shots of his "fill-yer-hand" gunfight with Ned, and carrying Mattie after the snake-bite).

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