Flying Tigers (1942)

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    • Re: Flying Tigers (1942)

      Interesting point Taka. I have for a long time believed FDR knew that Pearl Harbor was going to be bombed. I agree with Mark that most Americans were neutralists like WWI. FDR needed a catalyst to get the US involved, one similar to the sinking of the Lusitania in 1915, that brought us into the war in 1917.
      Interesting you read reports of the second explosion on the Lusitania and many believe it was munitions that were sent for the Brits and Frogs. The German UBoat commander Schweiger could not understand why the Lusitania didn't leave by another channel. Did Wilson use the Lusitania to get the US into WWI or the Brits draw us in by it?
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    • Re: Flying Tigers (1942)

      Here's a link for the book"Preemptive Strike"The Lyons Press,2006.
      preemptivestrikethebook.com/

      It is well known that FDR didn't consider measures though perceived the Pearl Harbor attack by Japanese Navy beforehand.
      It is assumed that there was a political judgment that start forming the
      public opinions U.S. should participate in the war (WW2).

      The attack to Japanese aircrafts by Flying Tigers has started earlier than Pearl hobor bombing.
      Moreover, i learnt at the first time that the bombing to the japanese
      cities had been planned by this book.

      Anyway,IMO the Japan-US two countries had already to have rushed into war before December,1941.

      regards,
      Taka
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    • Re: Flying Tigers (1942)

      Maybe the feeling of the American people may have been shifting about the war in Europe and the Pacific, but they were not in a rush to send their boys to fight, in my opinion. the article states :

      While President Roosevelt, his cabinet and staff, together with Captain Claire Lee Chennault and representatives of the Chinese Nationalist Government worked secretly on a plan to bomb Japan before the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor, the failure to timely implement and execute the plan had devastating consequences for America.
      I don't think it was a failure to not implement the bombings, for we would have been the aggressor and I don't think there would have been a rush to join up if that was the case. The attack on Pearl Harbor infuriated the public and "woke up a sleeping giant" as Adm. Yamamoto had stated after the attack. That caused the Nation to rise up as one in the sole purpose to avenge the attack. The bombing of Pearl Harbor was exactly what was needed to light the fire in the US. War between America and Japan may have been in the wind, but the People were not in a rush to engage it...untill Pearl.

      Mark
      "I couldn't go to sleep at night if the director didn't call 'cut'. "
    • Re: Flying Tigers (1942)

      dukefan1 wrote:


      The attack on Pearl Harbor infuriated the public and "woke up a sleeping giant" as Adm. Yamamoto had stated after the attack. That caused the Nation to rise up as one in the sole purpose to avenge the attack. The bombing of Pearl Harbor was exactly what was needed to light the fire in the US.
      Mark


      FDR regardless of his new deal and all that he had done still didn't have the sway in congress to vote war which he wanted. Churchill already had visited the US twice trying to talk him into entering the war other than sending supplies. The Republicans were happy just to send supplies.
      Japan did FDR a favor and every one who died at Pearl a disfavor by allowing the Japanese to fly in and bomb without warning.
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    • Re: Flying Tigers (1942)

      usually i can t get into war films but i watched this one, mainly cos jw was in it, and quite enjoyed it.
      one small point, which is going to sound petty but it really bugged me, was when blackie(?)s wife went to see jw to beg him to let her husband fly. she kept saying but please don t tell him i ve spoken to you. he agreed to that and then said, have him ready for tomorrow morning....well, how could she do that without telling him that she d spoken to him?
      loved the planes though with the design on the front - did they really have them like that and thought it was a really good ending when the guy you disliked all the way through suddenly became a hero and what a hero.
      overall it was a pleasant way to spend a couple of hours and i would watch it again
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      badger wrote:

      usually i can t get into war films but i watched this one, mainly cos jw was in it, and quite enjoyed it.
      one small point, which is going to sound petty but it really bugged me, was when blackie(?)s wife went to see jw to beg him to let her husband fly. she kept saying but please don t tell him i ve spoken to you. he agreed to that and then said, have him ready for tomorrow morning....well, how could she do that without telling him that she d spoken to him?
      loved the planes though with the design on the front - did they really have them like that and thought it was a really good ending when the guy you disliked all the way through suddenly became a hero and what a hero.
      overall it was a pleasant way to spend a couple of hours and i would watch it again


      Hi Badger

      I think it was necessary that Blackie remained ignorant of his wife's intervention in order to ensure he had some self esteem and confidence. Blackie wanted to be there to redeem himself he wanted to earn the chance to fight on his own merits and not because his wife had begged the Squadron leader.

      Thats my take on the scene.

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      Regards
      Robbie