Riders Of Destiny (1933)

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    • Riders Of Destiny (1933)



      Photo with the courtesy of lasbugas


      Plot Summary
      Badguy Kincaid controls the local water supply and plans to do in the other ranchers.
      Government agent Saunders shows up undercover to do in Kincaid and win
      the heart of one of his victims Fay Denton.
      Summary written by Ed Stephan

      Full Cast
      John Wayne .... Singin' Sandy Saunders
      Cecilia Parker .... Fay Denton
      Forrest Taylor .... James Kincaid
      George 'Gabby' Hayes .... Charlie Denton (as George Hayes)
      Al St. John .... Henchman Bert
      Heinie Conklin .... Stage Driver Elmer
      Yakima Canutt .... Henchman
      Earl Dwire .... Slip Morgan
      Lafe McKee .... Sheriff Bill Baxter
      Addie Foster .... Mrs. Mason
      Silver Tip Baker .... Townsman (uncredited)
      Horace B. Carpenter .... Rancher (uncredited)
      William Dyer .... Rancher (uncredited)
      Fern Emmett .... Bather's wife (uncredited)
      Si Jenks .... Bather (uncredited)
      Bert Lindley .... Rancher (uncredited)
      Tex Palmer .... Henchman (uncredited)
      Hal Price .... Townsman recognizing Sandy (uncredited)

      Writing Credits
      Robert N. Bradbury story and screenplay

      Original Music
      Billy Barber (1985 re-issue) (as William Barber)

      Archie Stout

      Yakima Canutt .... stunt double: John Wayne (uncredited)
      Jack Jones .... stunts (uncredited)
      Eddie Parker .... stunts (uncredited)

      Yakima Canutt .... stunt double: John Wayne (uncredited)
      Jack Jones .... stunts (uncredited)
      Eddie Parker .... stunts (uncredited)

      Other crew
      Bill Bradbury .... singing voice: John Wayne

      * Continuity: The stagecoach drivers are robbed by Faye Denton in light-coloured clothing and hat.
      Yet later on they pursue Saunders as the hold-up man despite the facts that his clothing
      is all dark-coloured, he is taller and he is wearing a completely different hat.

      * Continuity: When Saunders first appears in the film, he is carrying a guitar and singing.
      The guitar is not with him when he gives his horse to Faye Denton
      to make her escape, but he has it back when he is at the Denton's house
      and sings to the family.

      Memorable Quotes

      Filming Locations
      Andy Jauregui Ranch, Newhall, California, USA
      Kernville, California, USA
      Lancaster, California, USA
      Palmdale, California, USA
      Trem Carr Ranch, Newhall, California, USA

      Watch the Full Movie:-

      Riders of Destiny
      Best Wishes
      London- England

      The post was edited 15 times, last by ethanedwards ().

    • Riders of Destiny is a 1933 Western musical film starring
      26-year-old John Wayne as Singin' Sandy Saunders,
      the screen's second singing cowboy (the first being Ken Maynard in the 1929 film Wagon Masters).
      Wayne's singing voice was dubbed and the film is considerably darker than
      the Gene Autry singing cowboy movies that followed it;
      for example, Singin' Sandy's ten-gallon hat was black instead of white
      and he would grimly chant about "streets soon running with blood"
      and "you'll be drinking your drinks with the dead" as he strode purposefully down the street toward a showdown.
      The supporting cast includes George "Gabby" Hayes, acrobatics comedian Al St. John,
      and stuntman Yakima Canutt, and the movie was written and directed by Robert N. Bradbury.
      The film was the first of the Lone Star Productions released through Monogram Pictures.

      John Wayne's dubbed singing, which bore no resemblance to his unique speaking voice,
      was the reason he abandoned the singing cowboy format after only one film:
      he was chronically embarrassed during personal appearances when he couldn't accommodate children
      who clamored for a Singin' Sandy song.
      Gene Autry was chosen by the studio as Wayne's replacement in the new genre,
      immediately solving the live singing problem while ushering in
      a much lighter take on the format than Wayne's grimly intense rendition.

      I am biased towards, these Lone Star films.
      I enjoy all of them, for all their whirlwind, few days, low budget filming,
      they are a joy, and fun to watch.
      It is great to see Duke maturing in his career, and by the end of the series,
      his cadence is lower, and more mature.

      Throughout this series there were some fine character actors,
      and this one, is no exception, with Gabby, Celia Parker, Earl Dwire
      and Lafe McKee, adding their professional touch.
      However, Singing Sandy, was ludricous, with Duke's
      singing being dubbed.

      He hardly seemed threatening, and Duke was happy
      when they dropped that idea.


      User Review
      I just had to comment on this one.
      14 September 2004 | by Scaramouche2004 (Coventry, England)

      I recently purchased this film on a special triple bill DVD from an overly cheap discount store, in fact it was so cheap that the three movie disc cost me just one single pound of my hard earned British currency.

      This film was both fantastic and atrocious in one. An exciting plot, but with laughable performances from the entire cast.

      We know that all great actors have to start somewhere and the lone star westerns of the early thirties were what John 'The Duke' Wayne cut his teeth on.

      To look at his work in his final film The Shootist in 1976, you can see just how much he had learnt over his 40 years in the business and what a great actor he did eventually become, but to look at his performances in these early days, you can understand why he spent most of the 1930's in relative obscurity.

      Although Wayne looks uncomfortable throughout most of these films and his acting is wooden to say the least, it can't all be blamed on him.

      These movies were the product of their day and cannot be judged by todays standards. Intended only as supporting features, these long forgotten studios turned out these 'B' movies by the shed load. Badly formed scripts with badly shaped characters must have poured though these fledgling studios like water through a hoop and with a stock company of actors who's style was still formed in the pantomime silent era, they were bound to be a bit cheesy. In fact if in 1933 there were Oscars awarded for the greatest achievement in over acting then this would be the motion picture with greatest ever hoard.

      Wayne's character is a notorious gunman with a name that must have put the fear of God into whoever crossed his path, Singing Sandy Saunders.

      Laugh? I damn near wet my pants.

      And if that wasn't enough to give me the biggest gut wrencher of the century, then George 'Gabby' Hayes certainly iced the cake.

      After an appalling song that sounded like two cats fighting over a piece of fish in a metal barrel, the great Gabby uttered the line, "Mmmm. I could listen to that all night." The line itself is worthy of side stitching surgery, but the look of peace and serenity on his face was just too much for the old chuckle muscles which then went on to explode.

      I can honestly say that a truly inspired and well written comedy has never made me laugh as much as this film did.

      However the story is a good one, with the corrupt businessman holding the town's ranchers to ransom over his monopoly in the water market with a view of buying up all the farms etc.

      It survives today as nothing more than a nostalgic glimpse into the past, not only at a bygone era in cinema making, but as a chance to see a real Hollywood legend finding his feet. This alone makes it worth every penny of the thirty-three pence I in effect paid for it.
      Best Wishes
      London- England

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    • What's really funny about the Singin' Sandy thing is that in one of the copies I have, it is different music throughout, including the singing part, which actually sounds kind of like one would imagine John Wayne would have sounded. I learned afterwards that this was NOT the orignal soundtrack, but dubbed in by some distribution company much later.

      Arthur may have some more information on this.

      Chester :newyear:
    • Hi Jim,
      If you have any of the dubbed colourised versions, they are even worse, with Duke's voice sounding,like Duke sounded, 20 years later!!
      I have versions, for example RAINBOW VALLEY, where there is obviously,
      the original music, because, it's a syncopated orchestra, and in between,
      there are clearly more modern synthesized pieces.
      On the Second- Sight re-issue of these,
      they were re-mastered by FOX/LORBER ASSOCIATES,
      and they all feature the same distinctive sync music.
      I can only assume therefore, that the original soundtracks on some of these films had deteriorated,
      and clearly some restoration was required, to get the soundtrack audible.
      Best Wishes
      London- England
    • Hi everyone,

      Thanks for the all help out there. I posted a question a few months ago about a movie I was looking for where John Wayne is helping ranchers with their water rights. The movie is called "Riders of Destiny". Here's the description:

      "Gun-slinging, edge-of-your-seat action. James Kincade manages the area's water supply and is forcing the ranchers to sign a contract to secure expensive water rates. Singin' Sandy Saunders a Government Agent plots against Kincade to overthrow the contract and impress Fay Denton. " I found this at: alldvduk.com/?search=Riders+of+Destiny&category=DVD
      Hope you have it, Laura
    • Re: Riders Of Destiny (1933)

      Here are two posters, the second one (like the one Keith has in his introductory post) a 1947 re-release poster.
    • I look at these early movie for what they were. Made for the kids to be shown at a matinee. I run these while I'm working on my computer as if it were a radio playing in the back ground. The bad continuity between scene shots are fun to catch.
      The driver of the water wagon gets shot, they leave him on the bench. But when Slip gets it through both wrists, they haul him over to the doctors office post haste.
      I just love to watch all of his early films good or bad.

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