For a Few Dollars More (1965)

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    • For a Few Dollars More (1965)

      aka Per qualche dollaro in più (original title)


      Information From IMDb

      Plot Summary
      Monco andCol. Douglas Mortimer are two bounty hunters,
      who are both after the same man, Indio.
      They try at first going their own ways,
      but eventually team up together.
      Are their motive's for finding him the same?
      Written by ethanedwards

      Full Cast
      Clint Eastwood ... Monco
      Lee Van Cleef ... Col. Douglas Mortimer
      Gian Maria Volonté ... El Indio (The Indian) (as Gian Maria Volonte')
      Mara Krupp ... Mary - the innkeeper (as Mara Krup)
      Luigi Pistilli ... Groggy, Member of Indio's Gang
      Klaus Kinski ... Wild (the hunchback)
      Joseph Egger ... Old Prophet (as Josef Egger)
      Panos Papadopulos ... Sancho Perez, Member of Indio's Gang (as Panos Papadopoulos)
      Benito Stefanelli ... Luke
      Roberto Camardiel ... Tucumcari station clerk (as Robert Camardiel)
      Aldo Sambrell ... Cuccillo
      Luis Rodríguez ... Manuel, Member of Indio's Gang (as Luis Rodriguez)
      Tomás Blanco ... Tucumcari sheriff (as Tomas Blanco)
      Lorenzo Robledo ... Tomaso, Indio's Traitor
      Sergio Mendizábal ... Tucumcari bank manager (as Sergio Mendizabal)
      Dante Maggio ... Carpenter in cell with El Indio
      Diana Rabito ... Calloway's beautiful girl in tub
      Giovanni Tarallo ... Santa Cruz telegraphist
      Mario Meniconi ... Train Conductor
      Mario Brega ... Nino, Member of Indio's Gang
      Werner Abrolat ... Slim, Member of Indio's Gang (uncredited)
      Román Ariznavarreta ... Half-Shaved Bounty Hunter (uncredited)
      Frank Braña ... Blackie, Member of Indio's Gang (uncredited)
      José Canalejas ... Chico, Member of Indio's Gang (uncredited)
      Rosemary Dexter ... Mortimer's Sister (uncredited)
      Diana Faenza ... Tomaso's Wife (uncredited)
      Eduardo García ... Member of Indio's Gang (uncredited)
      Jesús Guzmán ... Carpetbagger on Train (uncredited)
      Peter Lee Lawrence ... Mortimer's Brother-in-Law (uncredited)
      Francesca Leone ... Tomaso's Baby (uncredited)
      Sergio Leone ... Whistling Bounty Hunter (voice) (uncredited)
      Rafael López ... (uncredited)
      José Marco ... 'Baby' Red Cavanaugh (uncredited)
      Antonio Molino Rojo ... Frisco, Member of Indio's Gang (uncredited)
      José Félix Montoya ... (uncredited)
      Guillermo Méndez ... White Rocks Sheriff (uncredited)
      Nazzareno Natale ... Paco Member of Indio's Gang (uncredited)
      Enrique Navarro ... Sherrif of Tucumcari (uncredited)
      Ricardo Palacios ... Tucumcari Saloon Keeper (uncredited)
      Aldo Ricci ... (uncredited)
      Antoñito Ruiz ... Fernando (uncredited)
      Enrique Santiago ... Miguel, Member of Indio's Gang (uncredited)
      Carlo Simi ... El Paso Bank Manager (uncredited)
      José Terrón ... Guy Calloway, Mortimer's 1st Criminal (uncredited)
      Kurt Zips ... Hotel Manager (uncredited)

      Writing Credits
      Sergio Leone (scenario) and
      Fulvio Morsella (scenario)
      Luciano Vincenzoni (screenplay) and
      Sergio Leone (screenplay)
      Luciano Vincenzoni (dialogue: English version)
      Fernando Di Leo uncredited &
      Sergio Donati uncredited

      Arturo González .... producer (as Arturo Gonzalez)
      Alfredo Fraile .... executive producer: Spain (uncredited)
      Alberto Grimaldi .... producer (uncredited)

      Original Music
      Ennio Morricone

      Massimo Dallamano (director of photography)

      Production Companies
      Produzioni Europee Associati (PEA) (A Co-Production) (as P.E.A. Rome)
      Arturo González Producciones Cinematográficas (A Co-Production) (as Arturo Gonzales Madrid)
      Constantin Film Produktion (A Co-Production) (as Constantin Film Munich

      Sergio Leone originally wanted Lee Marvin for the role of Douglas Mortimer, but when the actor asked for more money, Leone replaced him with Lee Van Cleef.

      Aldo Sambrell's character name "Cochelio" is the English spelling of the Spanish word "cuchillo", which means knife.

      Lee Van Cleef claimed to be faster on the draw than Clint Eastwood. He took three frames of film (one eighth of a second) to draw, cock and fire.

      The safe that Indio robs with his gang in El Paso contains Confederate dollar notes.

      The Man With No Name (Clint Eastwood) calls himself Manco in this film. "Manco" is Spanish for "lame of one hand", "one handed" or "one armed", which is pretty appropriate considering his habit of fighting, drinking, etc with his left hand only. His right hand always remains on his gun underneath his trademark poncho. (The assertion that his name is Monco is baseless, as that Italian word has nothing to do in Spanish-speaking towns of the South West of America.)

      Although Clint Eastwood's poncho was never washed during the production of the "Dollar" trilogy, it was mended. In the final scene of Per un pugno di dollari (1964), the poncho is pierced by seven bullets from Ramon's Winchester. In the sequel, Eastwood wears the same poncho back-to-front and the mending of the bullet holes is clearly visible in several scenes. The mended area, originally on the left breast, is now worn over the right shoulder blade.

      "Monco" is NOT the same character as "Joe" in Per un pugno di dollari (1964). This was the finding of an Italian court that adjudicated the lawsuit brought by Jolly Films, producer of "A Fistful of Dollars". After the release of the first film, director Sergio Leone had a falling out with the producers and made this sequel with a different producer, 'Alberto Grimaldi'. Jolly Films sued, claiming ownership of the "Joe" character, but lost when the court decided that the western gunfighter's persona, characterized by the costume and mannerisms, belonged to the public domain's folklore.

      Sergio Leone also considered Robert Ryan for the role of Col. Mortimer, being a fan of his performance in The Naked Spur (1953).

      On its 1969 re-release it was double-billed with Per un pugno di dollari (1964) (A Fistful of Dollars).

      Gian Maria Volonté played two different roles in this movie and it's sequel Per un pugno di dollari (1964) (A Fistful of Dollars). In the original, he played Ramon Rojo and in this movie he played El Indio.

      Final film of Joseph Egger.

      Director Sergio Leone did not want to make a sequel to Per un pugno di dollari (1964), but it was such a huge hit that Jolly Film--the production company--refused to pay Leone what it owed him from that film unless he made a sequel to it.

      Sergio Leone wanted Henry Fonda for the role of Col. Mortimer, but Fonda turned it down. Leone next approached Charles Bronson, who wasn't interested, and Lee Marvin, who refused it because he had just signed to make Cat Ballou (1965). It was then that Leone offered the role to Lee Van Cleef, who hadn't worked in films since How the West Was Won (1962), although he had worked fairly steadily in television. Van Cleef thought that Leone only wanted him for a few scenes, and was astounded when he discovered that he was actually to be the co-star.

      Besides Clint Eastwood of course, actors Mario Brega, Benito Stefanelli, Aldo Sambrell, and Antonio Molino Rojo are the only actors to appear in all 3 of the "Dollars Trilogy" movies.

      The title of the film reportedly originated out of spite towards Jolly Films, the producers of A Fistful of Dollars, with whom 'Sergio Leone' had a bitter falling out.

      Clint Eastwood's character calls Lee Van Cleef's character "old man", while Van Cleef's character calls Eastwood "boy". In reality Clint was already 35 and Lee only 40 when this film was made.

      Director Trademark
      Sergio Leone [theme] Monco, Col. Mortimer, and Indio.

      Sergio Leone [flashbacks]

      Sergio Leone [extreme close-up]

      The trivia items below may give away important plot points.
      Total kill count: 30. (Two of the kills were heard, but not shown.)

      Total kill count: 30. Two of the kills were heard, but not shown.

      Mario Brega appears in all 3 of the Dollars Trilogy movies, and in all 3 movies, his character meets an unfortunate demise. In this movie, his character of Nino is stabbed in the back by a fellow member of Indio's gang.

      Continuity: When Mortimer is trying to kill the man at the beginning of the film, he should be tracking his gun from right to left, not the other way around.

      Continuity: When Mortimer picks up the wanted poster at the station, it has two handwritten zeros on it. When he slides it under the door, they are missing.

      Continuity: When Mortimer unrolls the wanted poster before sliding under the door, it is obvious that the poster has a curled-up appearance. Once it's under the door inside the wanted man's room it is suddenly completely flat.

      Continuity: When Colonel Mortimer first exits the train and speaks to the officer, alternate shots show his hand either on his hip or grasping his lapel.

      Continuity: The orientation of the match that Mortimer lights on Wild's hump.

      Anachronisms: During gunfight at the climax of the movie, automobiles can be seen driving on a highway in the background.

      Anachronisms: Face on wanted poster of Indio is a high-contrast repro of a modern style photo.

      Anachronisms: When Mortimer lowers the bible that he was reading in the train, in the background, you can see a fast moving vehicle driving down a dirt road.

      Continuity: When The Man With No Name walks up to the poker game, the coins on the table change position between shots.

      Audio/visual unsynchronized: When Monco confronts Red Cavanaugh, he shoots the three men who try to save Cavanaugh. After Monco shoots them, one of Cavanaugh's henchmen fires his pistol, but no sound can be heard.

      Anachronisms: Playing cards of the Old West did not have modern numerals on each corner. The number cards were represented by the number of spades, hearts, clubs, or diamonds in the center, six of diamonds had six diamonds in the center. Also, the cards in the movie were modern machine cut plastic coated paper, period cards would have been larger, and of plain pressed paper or wax coated.

      Continuity: When Monco enters the saloon at White Rocks, his hat and poncho are dripping wet. In the next shot, they are totally dry.

      Continuity: At the end of the movie when the Colonel shoots El Indio, El Indio's left hand that's holding the watch is by his left side. When the Colonel goes over and steps on his hand to get the watch, his arm is stretched out.

      Continuity: In the end of the movie, just before the duel, we see El Indio reloading his gun. He uses all the cartridges in the lower left side of this ammo belt. However, when he goes out to the street, 4 cartridges appear again.

      Anachronisms: Mortimer smokes a meerschaum pipe throughout the movie, which is historically accurate; however, the pipe stem is obviously Lucite, a late 20th century plastic. An 1860's pipe stem would be carved of ivory, antler, or bone.

      Continuity: After he goes out of the jail, Indio faces an enemy in a duel. Alternate shots show the gun of the enemy either in front his right hand or behind his right hand.

      Revealing mistakes: While breaking Indio out of jail, one of the bandits shoots a prison guard, who clearly reacts to the bullet before he is shot.

      Continuity: At the end when Monco is loading bodies into the wagon and drives away, a tailgate is clearly visible hanging down on the back of the wagon. A minute later after he gets the saddlebags of cash, as he pulls away the tailgate is gone.

      Continuity: When Mortimer is talking to the conductor of the train, his horse changes positions between shots.

      Continuity: Near the film's conclusion as the two main characters exchange farewells in separate frames, Mortimer's close-ups and long shots show him against a setting sun. However, Monco's scenes, as the short shadows around him demonstrate, is in light that is much closer to noon.

      Anachronisms: Tucumcari wasn't founded until 1901.

      Continuity: After Monco's cigar is shot to a very short length by one of Indio's gang, subsequent shots have it both longer and then shorter again.

      Continuity: When Manco shoots three of Indio's men outside of Santa Cruz, he takes his dark brown horse. However, in all his scenes in Santa Cruz, he is seen with a completely different horse. After he leaves Santa Cruz, his horse is dark brown again.

      Revealing mistakes: During the opening credits, the rider goes down just as the rifle is fired.

      Continuity: When Col Mortimer shoots Manco's hat off his head, the flying hat looks like it was shot from below the brim as in the other shots. Also there are no bullet holes in either hat afterward.

      Continuity: In both dream scenes, Mortimer's brother-in-law was shot three times at close range. There are no bullet holes front and back or in the wall behind him.

      Continuity: When Mortimer slides the wanted poster under the door and knocks, the bad guy fires four times through the door. When the chase continues into the street, the bad guy fires six more times. However, he is carrying only one gun, which he did not have time to reload.

      Revealing mistakes: After Monco rides into Agua Caliente, he shoots some apples off a tree for a little boy. Obvious film splices between shots.

      Anachronisms: Several times throughout the film when showing close-ups of Indio's men; modern rimless cartridges can be seen in their bandoleers.

      Revealing mistakes: When Mortimer is browsing in the local newspaper all pages are identical.

      Continuity: After Colonel Mortimer pulls the emergency cord aboard the train, the locomotive crew is seen applying the brakes. There's a shot from inside the locomotive cab backwards across the tender, and there are no cars connected to the engine.

      Revealing mistakes: When Manco rides into Agua Caliente, several women run down the street into their houses. They are followed shortly by another woman, but the door to her "house" doesn't open. She simply tries to hide from the camera behind a short wall.

      Revealing mistakes: When Cavanaugh is shot by Monco when trying to get his gun, Monco's gun is very clearly pointed at the floor in front of Cavanaugh, and not at him.

      Continuity: When Manco springs Perez from prison, the sky changes from light to dark and back to light in an impossibly short time.

      Anachronisms: All the passenger cars on the train have only four wheels. Four-wheeled passenger cars had fallen out of favor in the United States by the 1840s.

      Continuity: During the scene that Mortimer confronts the Indio gang for the first time,and lights his pipe from Wild's cigar,there is a blond woman behind who can be seen watching at them at first, then sitting on a table,then staring at them again.

      Revealing mistakes: SPOILER: When Indio is lying on the ground after being shot dead by Col. Mortimer, Indio's left hand (still holding the gold watch and chain) is turned palm down, with his left thumb pointing towards his body. In the next shot where Col. Mortimer retrieves the watch from Indio, Indio's left hand is now turned with his palm up and his left thumb is pointed away from his body.

      Memorable Quotes

      Filming Locations
      Almería Railway Station, Almería, Andalucía, Spain (train sequence)
      Almería, Andalucía, Spain (train sequence)
      Cabo de Gata, Almería, Andalucía, Spain
      Church of Santa Maria, Turrillas, Almería, Andalucía, Spain (church)
      Cinecittà Studios, Cinecittà, Rome, Lazio, Italy (studio) (interiors)
      Colmenar Viejo, Madrid, Spain (town) (set)
      Granada, Andalucía, Spain
      Guadix, Granada, Andalucía, Spain (train sequence)
      Hoyo de Manzanares, Madrid, Spain (town) (set)
      La Calahorra, Granada, Andalucía, Spain (town) (set)
      Los Albaricoques, Cabo de Gata, Almería, Andalucía, Spain (town: Agua Caliente)
      Mini Hollywood, Tabernas, Almería, Andalucía, Spain (sets)
      Poblado del Oeste, Tabernas, Almería, Andalucía, Spain
      San José, Almería, Andalucía, Spain
      Tabernas, Almería, Andalucía, Spain (town) (set)
      Turrillas, Almería, Andalucía, Spain (church)
      Best Wishes
      London- England

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    • Re: (New Review) Classic Movie Westerns- For a Few Dollars More (1965)

      For a Few Dollars More (Italian: Per qualche dollaro in più) is a 1965 Italian Spaghetti Western film directed by Sergio Leone and starring Clint Eastwood, Lee Van Cleef, and Gian Maria Volontè.
      German actor Klaus Kinski also plays a supporting role as a secondary villain.
      The film was released in the United States in 1967 and is the second part
      #of what is commonly known as the Dollars Trilogy,
      following A Fistful of Dollars and preceding The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.

      Film historian Richard Schickel, in his biography of Clint Eastwood,
      believed that this was the best film in the trilogy, arguing that it was "more elegant
      and complex than A Fistful of Dollars and more tense and compressed than
      The Good, the Bad and the Ugly."
      Director Alex Cox considered the church scene to be "the most horrible deaths" of any Western,
      describing Volontè's Indio as the "most diabolical Western villain of all time."

      This was the second of Sergio Leone's
      Clint Eastwood Dollar trilogy.
      It is widely accepted and I personally agree
      that this one, was the best.
      It was mentioned on the first movie
      A Fistful of Dollars, that the movie was good,
      but would have benefited by the addition
      of some well known support actors.
      Lee Van Cleef, was one of those additions.
      As a result this movie was elevated above the previous one.
      Cleef's character added menace to a sometimes
      dull Eastwoods 'Man with no name '
      Clint however was a rising star
      and there is no doubt from this movie,
      that he had developed and was showing his true talent.
      The same of course can be said about director Leone.
      Top stars like Henry Fonda, Charles Bronson
      and Lee Marvin were considered as Mortimer,
      but by default Cleef accepted not knowing,
      at the time,that he would become the co-star.

      The soundtrack by
      Ennio Morricone has become,
      one of the most memorable forms of music,
      in movie history!

      User Review

      (Click to set source)
      One of my favorite westerns- a fitting middle section to the "Dollars" trilogy

      23 December 2003 | by mister whiplash

      As the second of the three films legendary filmmaker Sergio Leone collaborated on with Clint Eastwood (not to mention his first with Lee Van Cleef and his second with 'Fistful' actor Gian Maria Volonte), For a Few Dollars More gets well earned respect from the fans of the director and the groundbreaking star. And yet, occasionally there are those who'll not even know this film from Leone and Clint exists since it does sometimes get under the shadow of their two most infamous works, Fistful of Dollars (which for the most part introduced Clint and Leone to the public's awareness) and The Good, the Bad and the Ugly (which solidified Clint as a Western icon and gave Leone a similar status for film buffs). But taken as a film unto itself, aside from its place in the trilogy, this is a Western that simply delivers the goods, and it does so with a spectacular marriage of style and substance.

      The story begins by introducing our two (anti) heroes, bounty hunters Douglas Mortimer (Cleef), former Colonel, and Monco (Eastwood), a drifter. They both set their sights on the leader of a gang of bandits named Indio (Volonte), who is plotting to go after over a million locked in a bank in El Paso. At first, Monco and Mortimer seem like their after Indio for the same reason- reward money- though there seems to be more than each man counted on with him and his gang.

      From the opening scenes with Cleef and Eastwood, to the scenes in El Paso, and then into the set pieces in the stone ruins in the Mexico desert(s), For a Few Dollars More displays the utmost skill by Leone in his storytelling, as well as in his use of the camera. Using Fistful's camera-man Massimo Dallamano, Leone does what he does best in his spaghetti westerns- he creates a perfectly in sync mood with his characters: each look in a scene, whether it's intense waiting for guns to be drawn, or just regular conversation, the look of the film draws the viewer in without over-doing it. Some points are made bold or repetitious (like Ennio Morricone's score, that keeps its whistling theme and serene watch theme completely in check), though it's not done to any degree of annoyance or by accident.

      In fact, that's what makes his westerns such fun, is that you take them seriously as films, yet he always reminds you that it's all in the 'movie-world' just by the way Mortimer or Monco strikes up a match. As for the actors themselves, Eastwood and Cleef are total pros in this genre, so ever line of dialog comes out naturally, and the supporting actors (however dubbed over from original Italian) all contribute great notes as well. At the least, it can appeal to a new generation of kids looking back to older movies, which may look at this and consider it more modernly crafted than a John Ford oldie. A+
      Best Wishes
      London- England

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    • Re: (New Review) Classic Movie Westerns- For a Few Dollars More (1965)

      As we all know, movie "experts" swear upon their mothers' graves that the so-called "spaghetti Westerns" are what made Clint Eastwood a super star. Why, I don't know, because I don't like any of 'em. Hell, I liked him better in the TV series "Rawhide", that got 'im started on the road to fame and fortune.
      De gustibus non est disputandum
    • Re: (New Review) Classic Movie Westerns- For a Few Dollars More (1965)

      I think the spaghetti westerns moved Clint Eastwood from tv star to film actor.

      It took a lot longer for him to be regarded as a major star. A number of factors could be regarded as important to Clint's development. The Don Siegel movies, his longevity in terms of acting career, a smart production deal for all his movies under Malpaso banner and a serious lack of competition in terms of other actors for the type of movies he was making or getting the opportunity
      to make.
    • Re: (New Review) Classic Movie Westerns- For a Few Dollars More (1965)

      Remember that in the '60s, there was a stigma against actors working on TV that no one would pay to see them at the movies.
      Steve McQueen and James Garner broke that barrier, largely with "The Great Escape" in 1963.
      These Italian westerns established Eastwood now as a movie screen commodity. His first American made film was "Hang Em High" which tried to emulate the Leone/Eastwood films because no one wanted to depart too far from a recipe that worked.

      We deal in lead, friend.
    • Re: Classic Movie Westerns- For a Few Dollars More (1965)

      One of the best westerns ever made IMO. Possibly beats The Good, the Bad and the Ugly, it's that good. The score by Morricone is arguably even better (though not the main theme vs the main theme from TGTBTU, that would be blasphemy.) I think Lee Van Cleef almost outshines Clint Eastwood in this one, no small feat.