Paint Your Wagon (1969)

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    • Paint Your Wagon (1969)

      PAINT YOUR WAGON

      DIRECTED BY JOSHUA LOGAN
      PRODUCED BY ALAN JAY LERNER/ TOM SHAW
      ALAN JAY LERNER PRODUCTIONS/ THE MALPASO COMPANY
      PARAMOUNT PICTURES



      Information from IMDb

      Plot Summary
      A Michigan farmer and a prospector form a partnership in the California gold country.
      Their adventures include buying and sharing a wife,
      hijacking a stage, kidnapping six prostitutes, and turning
      their mining camp into a boom town.
      Along the way there is plenty of drinking, gambling, and singing.
      They even find time to do some creative gold mining.
      Written by David J. Kiseleski

      Full Cast
      Lee Marvin ... Ben Rumson
      Clint Eastwood ... Pardner
      Jean Seberg ... Elizabeth
      Harve Presnell ... Rotten Luck Willie
      Ray Walston ... Mad Jack Duncan
      Tom Ligon ... Horton Fenty
      Alan Dexter ... Parson
      William O'Connell ... Horace Tabor
      Benny Baker ... Haywood Holbrook (as Ben Baker)
      Alan Baxter ... Mr. Fenty
      Paula Trueman ... Mrs. Fenty
      Robert Easton ... Atwell
      Geoffrey Norman ... Foster
      H.B. Haggerty ... Steve Bull
      Terry Jenkins ... Joe Mooney
      Karl Bruck ... Schermerhorn
      John Mitchum ... Jacob Woodling
      Sue Casey ... Sarah Woodling
      Eddie Little Sky ... Indian
      Harvey Parry ... Higgins
      H.W. Gim ... Wong
      William Mims ... Frock-coated man
      Roy Jenson ... Hennessey
      Patrick Hawley ... Clendennon (as Pat Hawley)
      Nitty Gritty Dirt Band (as The Nitty Gritty Dirt Band)
      Cal Bartlett ... Undetermined role (uncredited)
      Walt Davis ... Man (uncredited)
      Roger Herren ... Townsperson (uncredited)
      Robert S. Holman ... Zebulon (men's chorus) (uncredited)
      Daniel Keough ... Pioneer (uncredited)
      Nick Klar ... Bit part (uncredited)
      Wayne McLaren ... (uncredited)
      Jerry Whittington ... Gold Prospector (uncredited)

      Writing Credits
      Alan Jay Lerner (Screenplay, book and lyrics by)
      Paddy Chayefsky (adaptation)

      Cinematography
      William A. Fraker

      Trivia
      Paramount advertised for extras, and Portland's hippie population turned out,
      complete with long hair, mustaches and beards, period clothing, and camping gear.
      The local rednecks were infuriated that 'dirty hippies' got the plum jobs...
      until they began buying groceries, beer, and antiques in town.

      Released at a time when musicals were rapidly going out of fashion,
      the film went notoriously over budget and behind schedule.
      Opening to mostly negative reviews, it was not the huge box office success
      that the producers had hoped.

      This was the only film produced by Alan Jay Lerner.

      In the DVD version the 4'20'' intermission is kept in the film.

      Lesley Ann Warren and Sally Ann Howes turned down the role of Elizabeth.
      Kim Novak was also approached, and Diana Rigg was set to star as Elizabeth
      but was forced to withdraw due to illness.

      George Maharis was a close contender for the role of Pardner.

      Jean Seberg's singing voice was dubbed by Anita Gordon, while Clint Eastwood and Lee Marvin did their own singing.
      Marvin's recording of the song "Wanderin' Star" went to #1 on the British charts, earning him a gold record.

      The first attempt to film this property was by Louis B. Mayer and Jack Cummings in 1957.
      Planned as a Cinerama release with a screenplay by John Lee Mahin
      and new songs by Alan Jay Lerner and Arthur Schwartz, the project was abandoned when Mayer died.
      Gary Cooper was being sought to play Ben Rumson.

      Lee Marvin was set to star in The Wild Bunch, a project that he helped put together with stuntman Roy N. Sickner,
      when Paramount offered him $1 million plus a percentage to star in this picture.

      The play was produced on Broadway in 1951 and was one of the two properties
      Louis B. Mayer took with him after being ousted from MGM. Advancing age
      and the fact that Mayer had been so removed from actual film production for
      30+ years rendered him unable to get it underway as a film.

      Only one number is sung by a trained singer - "They Call the Wind Maria" by Harve Presnell.
      (The word "Maria", spelled Maria without the H, is sung/pronounced as "Mariah".)

      Lee Marvin had to be made to look older in the movie, since at 44
      he was only six years older than Clint Eastwood.

      Lee Marvin was apparently drunk nearly every day of filming.

      After five months of filming and ever-escalating budgetary and production problems,
      the studio fired director Joshua Logan and had assistant director Tom Shaw
      complete the film, without credit.

      The original Broadway production of "Paint Your Wagon" opened at the Shubert Theater on November 12, 1951
      and ran for 289 performances.

      The song "Hand Me Down That Can of Beans" was performed by the Nitty Gritty Dirt Band,
      who were also extras in the movie. The band is most famous for singing "Mr. Bojangles".

      According to Eastwood's character, 'Pardner', in a scene toward the very end of the movie,
      his real name is 'Sylvester Newel'. "With one 'L'", as stated by the character, himself.

      In her autobiography, Faye Dunaway mentions that she turned down the role of Elizabeth.

      Cameo
      Alan Jay Lerner: The producer/writer/lyricist is seen singing standing on the log next to
      William O'Connell during the "There's a Coach Coming In" number.

      Spoilers
      This film version bears little resemblance to the Broadway musical on which it is ostensibly based.
      After the success of several musical films in the 1960s, most notably The Sound of Music,
      producers went looking for other projects to make, and "Paint Your Wagon" made the list.
      The original plot, about an inter-ethnic love story, was discarded as being too dated.
      The only elements retained from the original were the title, Gold Rush setting and about half of the songs.
      In the play, Elizabeth has a very minor role, Pardner does not even appear, and Ben Rumson dies at the end.

      Goofs
      Anachronisms
      Soon after Ben, Pardner, and Mad Jack open their secret "gold mine" underneath No Name City,
      a young farmer is recruited to help dig. To emphasize the need for secrecy, Mad Jack threatens
      to shove a stick of dynamite in the farmer's mouth if he blabs.
      The film is set in 1849 or 1850, before California becomes a state. Dynamite wasn't yet invented
      (it was patented by Alfred Nobel in 1867).

      While working in the "mine", Ben Rumson can clearly be seen wearing a carbide lamp.
      Carbide lamps were not developed until 1892, but the movie is set in 1849.

      Continuity
      After Rumson buys Elizabeth he is seen being shaved except for the mustache.
      Later in the same day, after they get married, Rumson has full side-burns connected to his mustache.

      Crew or equipment visible
      At the end of the movie, the tunnel system collapses and the buildings start to topple over.
      In several shots the cables used to pull over various buildings are clearly apparent,
      even though it appears that attempts were made to camouflage them with pennants.
      What gives it away is that the 'pennants' (until the buildings they are attached to topple over)
      are clearly under far too much strain to be merely hung as decorations.

      Revealing mistakes
      When the town is falling apart in the end, we see the wires used hold up a falling bathtub.

      During "The Best Things In Life Are Dirty", Ben Rumson rides up on a cart full of sloppy mud.
      The three Irishmen, led by Mad Jack, are pulling the cart up on a block and tackle, with a heave-ho motion.
      The cart should rise a few inches at a time, to synch up with their motions.
      Instead, while they pull and rest, pull and rest, the cart rises out of the pit at a constant speed.

      When the town falls apart due to the tunnels collapsing, the smooth sides of the concrete tunnel
      are visible after the thin layer of mud falls down into them.

      When the town is falling apart, you can see the strap holding Horton and the prostitute
      he's with to the bed as they fall to the ground.

      Memorable Quotes

      Filming Locations
      Baker, Oregon, USA
      Big Bear Lake, Big Bear Valley, San Bernardino National Forest, California, USA
      Big Bear Valley, San Bernardino National Forest, California, USA
      (Holcolm Valley, exterior)
      Paramount Studios - 5555 Melrose Avenue, Hollywood, Los Angeles, California, USA
      (interiors)

      The Theme Song

      [extendedmedia]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dDhO4wS-0k[/extendedmedia]
      Best Wishes
      Keith
      London- England

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    • Re: Western Musicals- Paint Your Wagon (1969)

      Paint Your Wagon is a 1969 American Western
      starring Lee Marvin, Clint Eastwood and Jean Seberg.
      The movie was adapted by Paddy Chayefsky from the 1951
      stage musical by Lerner and Loewe, set in a mining camp in
      Gold Rush-era California.


      User Review
      A very silly but very fun movie, 5 March 2004
      8/10
      Author: Samus Aran from Canada
      My friend sent me this movie wanting to know my comments on it, without telling me even a word
      of what it was about or what he thought of it
      . I went and checked out the entry on IMDB and was a touch confused why he was sending
      me a sort of musical half-western flick, being that neither of those categories would pop up at the top of either our lists.

      Needless to say, something about this movie surprised me -- I fully enjoyed watching it !
      Right from the start the characters were interesting and the scenes quite absurdly funny.
      Some of the singing was truly awful (in a funny way), and other songs
      were actually very toe-tappingly catchy.

      There is a whole lot of physical humor in this movie, from the opening scene after they bury the guy,
      to the ending scenes with the bull. And holy crap the older man drinks a lot.
      I don't think I've ever seen a movie where a single character drinks so much hard alcohol !
      Along with the numerous sexual jokes I certainly wouldn't recommend this movie for children.

      As the movie came to a conclusion, I found myself attached to the main characters and wanting to see more of their adventures.
      The plot had a very natural progression. As silly and ridiculous as it certainly was, the plot made a strange sort of sense.

      I rate the movie an 8 out of 10
      Best Wishes
      Keith
      London- England

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    • Re: Western Musicals- Paint Your Wagon (1969)

      I just LOVED that Movie, but was one of my theater ones. Haven't seen it since. Should put it on my list. Everytime I see it mentioned, I can just HEAR Lee singing, very deeply, "I Was Bo ern under a wan drin' star!" LOL, thanks for the reminder! Keith Hmmm, long ago, it WAS Lee that sang that song wasn't it? Lordy, if it wasn't I had better start taking the Aricept!
    • Re: Western Musicals- Paint Your Wagon (1969)

      Hawkswill wrote:

      I just LOVED that Movie, but was one of my theater ones. Haven't seen it since. Should put it on my list. Everytime I see it mentioned, I can just HEAR Lee singing, very deeply, "I Was Bo ern under a wan drin' star!" LOL, thanks for the reminder! Keith Hmmm, long ago, it WAS Lee that sang that song wasn't it? Lordy, if it wasn't I had better start taking the Aricept!

      ...and here it is

      [extendedmedia]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnbiRDNaDeo[/extendedmedia]
      Best Wishes
      Keith
      London- England

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    • Re: Western Musicals- Paint Your Wagon (1969)

      Thanks there, Keither. That really took me back in time. I actually remembered a lot of the words. I love the part, "When I get to Heaven, tie me to a tree". If I DO get to Heaven, someone will have to do the same for me!

      You know, his singing this surprised me almost as much as Robert Mitchum did singing Thunder Road.........whoa......what a SHOCK....that boy could SING!

      Well, thanks again Keith, the other Keith At least I can hold off on the Aricept for a while......that stuff is EXPENSIVE!
    • Re: Western Musicals- Paint Your Wagon (1969)

      BatjacAuburn wrote:

      I was 10 when this was released and I remember seeing the theater marquees about a geart western and wondering why my parents wouldn't take me to see it. Of course now I know why but......



      LOL, SO, BJA, you finally got to see it, I take it? Did you like it? Now, I will be singing that song all night again.....probably dream of it and wake up singing it......Lee really made it memorable more that I think anyone else could have. It has been said that he was drunk throughout much of the movie....I mean for REAL. LOL. Later, he tried to cut way back on his drinking....even tried Betty Ford,etc. But the booze had already taken its toll. He looked a great deal older than he really was at the end, I thought. Reminds me......two, Keith, not three glasses of wine while cooking and WITH dinner!

      You going to join in the GW this month. You don't have to post long things, just comment here and there on what is being said. I will be posting a screen grab or two and will be having contests. One is going on now.....giving sketches away for anyone who guesses two answers right first.....don't have to be in a row. I will put a new question up every time someone gets the last one, so..........I better get some more sketches ready, LOL. You will get to choose from the ones I have already done. Or, you can request one....will have to wait for those!

      Even if you don't LIKE Hatari, you can post why you don't....or just reply to other's posts. Supposed to be a discussion. I hope to help make it one. Will be turning it back over to Irish Duke and Dooley after this....they started it, LOL! Keith
    • Re: Western Musicals- Paint Your Wagon (1969)

      OOPS, I think that was Robert Mitchum who tried Betty Ford Clinic......but Lee WAS supposedly drunk most of the filming, LOL.

      Hawkswill wrote:

      LOL, SO, BJA, you finally got to see it, I take it? Did you like it? Now, I will be singing that song all night again.....probably dream of it and wake up singing it......Lee really made it memorable more that I think anyone else could have. It has been said that he was drunk throughout much of the movie....I mean for REAL. LOL. Later, he tried to cut way back on his drinking....even tried Betty Ford,etc. But the booze had already taken its toll. He looked a great deal older than he really was at the end, I thought. Reminds me......two, Keith, not three glasses of wine while cooking and WITH dinner!

      You going to join in the GW this month. You don't have to post long things, just comment here and there on what is being said. I will be posting a screen grab or two and will be having contests. One is going on now.....giving sketches away for anyone who guesses two answers right first.....don't have to be in a row. I will put a new question up every time someone gets the last one, so..........I better get some more sketches ready, LOL. You will get to choose from the ones I have already done. Or, you can request one....will have to wait for those!

      Even if you don't LIKE Hatari, you can post why you don't....or just reply to other's posts. Supposed to be a discussion. I hope to help make it one. Will be turning it back over to Irish Duke and Dooley after this....they started it, LOL! Keith
    • Re: Western Musicals- Paint Your Wagon (1969)

      Hawkswill wrote:

      LOL, SO, BJA, you finally got to see it, I take it? Did you like it? Now, I will be singing that song all night again.....probably dream of it and wake up singing it......Lee really made it memorable more that I think anyone else could have. It has been said that he was drunk throughout much of the movie....I mean for REAL. LOL. Later, he tried to cut way back on his drinking....even tried Betty Ford,etc. But the booze had already taken its toll. He looked a great deal older than he really was at the end, I thought. Reminds me......two, Keith, not three glasses of wine while cooking and WITH dinner!

      You going to join in the GW this month. You don't have to post long things, just comment here and there on what is being said. I will be posting a screen grab or two and will be having contests. One is going on now.....giving sketches away for anyone who guesses two answers right first.....don't have to be in a row. I will put a new question up every time someone gets the last one, so..........I better get some more sketches ready, LOL. You will get to choose from the ones I have already done. Or, you can request one....will have to wait for those!

      Even if you don't LIKE Hatari, you can post why you don't....or just reply to other's posts. Supposed to be a discussion. I hope to help make it one. Will be turning it back over to Irish Duke and Dooley after this....they started it, LOL! Keith


      I did enjoy it once I finally saw it on VHS. Lee Marvin was hilarious, Clint was pretty good and the story was funny. I'll see what I can do to come up with something on Hatari. I think it's an enjoyable movie.

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