Jeremiah Johnson (1972)

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    • Jeremiah Johnson (1972)




      Plot Summary
      During the mid-nineteenth century, Jeremiah Johnson, after a stint in the US Army,
      decides that he would prefer a life of solitude and more importantly peace
      by living with nature in the mountains of the frontier of the American west.
      This plan entails finding a piece of land upon which to build a house.
      This quest ends up being not quite what he envisioned as he does require
      the assistance of others to find his footing, and in turn he amasses friends
      and acquaintances along the way, some who become more a part of his life
      than he would have imagined.
      Perhaps most importantly, some of those people provide him with the knowledge
      of how to co-exist with some of the many Indian tribes, most importantly the Crow,
      on whose land in Colorado Jeremiah ultimately decides to build his home.
      But an act by Jeremiah upon a request by the US Cavalry leads to a chain of events
      that may forever change the peaceful relationship
      he worked so hard to achieve with his neighbors and their land.
      Written by Huggo

      Robert Redford ... Jeremiah Johnson
      Will Geer ... Bear Claw
      Delle Bolton ... Swan
      Josh Albee ... Caleb
      Joaquín Martínez ... Paints His Shirt Red (as Joaquin Martinez)
      Allyn Ann McLerie ... Crazy Woman
      Stefan Gierasch ... Del Gue
      Richard Angarola ... Chief Two-Tongues Lebeaux
      Paul Benedict ... Reverend Lindquist
      Charles Tyner ... Robidoux
      Jack Colvin ... Lieutenant Mulvey
      Matt Clark ... Qualen
      Tanya Tucker ... Qualen's daughter (uncredited)

      Sydney Pollack

      Writing Credits
      Vardis Fisher ... (novel)
      Raymond W. Thorp ... (story "Crow Killer") and
      Robert Bunker ... (story "Crow Killer")
      John Milius ... (screenplay) and
      Edward Anhalt ... (screenplay)
      David Rayfiel ... (uncredited)

      John R. Coonan ... associate producer
      Mike Moder ... associate producer
      Joe Wizan ... producer

      Tim McIntire
      John Rubinstein

      Duke Callaghan ... director of photography

      Liver Eatin' Johnston's wife (who was pregnant at the time) was actually killed by a
      random raiding party of Blackfeet, not as revenge for a violation of their burial grounds.
      She was killed in the spring while Johnston was off trapping and he didn't return to find her body
      until several months later.
      He identified the band that had killed her because he recognized a Tennessee rifle
      he had given her in the possession of a Blackfeet warrior.
      Also, rather than isolated incidents as shown in the movie,
      Johnston often recruited other mountain men as well as Indians (particularly Flatheads)
      to help him with his vendetta.
      The part about the warriors sent to kill him and told not to return without his scalp was true.

      Based upon a real-life trapper named John Johnston, nicknamed "Crow Killer"
      and "Liver Eater Johnston" for his penchant for cutting out and eating the livers of Crow Indian
      s he had killed (several Crows had murdered his wife and he swore vengeance against the entire tribe).

      Trapper John Johnston's body was buried in the Veterans Administration
      cemetery in Los Angeles, CA.
      After the movie came out, Johnston's body was reburied at Old Trail Town in Cody, WY.
      Robert Redford was a pallbearer in the reburial ceremony attended by 2,000 people.

      One of seven pictures director Sydney Pollack made with actor Robert Redford.

      The picture was based on two published sources: the non-fiction
      "Crow Killer: The Saga of Liver-Eating Johnson" by Raymond W. Thorp and Robert Bunker (1958)
      and the fictional "Mountain Man: A Novel of Male and Female in the Early American West' (1965) by Vardis Fisher.

      Reportedly, Robert Redford did many of his own stunts.
      Redford also apparently paid the stunt guild accordingly so as to not put any stuntman out of work.

      Many of the locations for the film were shot on or near Robert Redford's property in Utah
      (he owned approximately 600 acres there at the time), although some locations were as much as 600 miles away.

      For complete Trivia please see:-

      The time period is around the 1830s, yet when Johnson is guiding the soldiers
      to rescue the civilians stuck in the snow, he asks the lieutenant
      in charge how "the war with the president of Mexico is going.
      " The lieutenant says, "It's over." Johnson asks, "Who won?"
      The war with Mexico was from 1845 to 1847. The trade in beaver pelts was over by 1840.

      After burying her murdered family, Crazy Woman begins singing "Shall We Gather at the River"
      and Jeremiah joins in.
      This song was written by Robert Lowry in 1864 and first published in 1865,
      long after the time of the mountain men.

      When first showing Johnson setting or checking a trap, you can clearly see the "V" logo
      on the pan of the trap, meaning this was a Victor-brand trap
      (widely used in the 1960s and 70s during the fur trapping boom of that period).
      Victor traps were not in existence during the setting of this movie.

      When he runs into Del Gue late in the movie Johnson tells Del that he may head to Canada.
      In the 1830's? the country of Canada was not yet formed,
      and while there was a region with the name it was far to the east of the Crow and Flathead territories.
      The territory Johnson was most likely referring to would be Rupert's Land
      or possibly the territory of British Columbia, those would be the non US territories
      closest to the Crow Nation.

      Audio/visual unsynchronised
      Throughout the film gunshots are heard as a modern high velocity
      (crack sound as the bullet is supersonic) rather than the boom of a subsonic blackpowder firearm.
      Also, the firearm smoke is minimal (modern smokeless powder) modern smokless powder
      wasn't available until about 1890.

      Character error
      As the newlyweds ride along, Jeremiah Johnson turns around in his saddle,
      revealing a contemporary plain, gold, wedding band on his right hand,
      which is how wedding bands are worn in Germany,
      where I was stationed as a soldier in the United States Army.

      Del Gue buried in the sand is at first soaked with perspiration.
      A minute later his head is almost dry.

      When Jeremiah Johnson first finds Hatchet Jack's frozen body holding the .50 caliber Hawkens,
      the gun is held with the barrel tilted slightly upward.
      In subsequent shots, the angle of the rifle barrel changes several times
      to slightly different downward- or upward-tilting angles, never the same twice.

      In the last close-up shot of Hatchet Jack, his chest is moving up and down.

      Near the end of the film when Johnson startles the stranger in the cabin,
      you hear the sound of a single shot but there is no smoke or recoil from his gun.

      When Jeremiah shares a rabbit with Chris, one shot shows no smoke from the fire,
      but in the other shots much smoke was visible.

      In the last close-up shot of Hatchet Jack you can see his chest moving up and down after he's supposedly dead.

      Crew or equipment visible
      Just after Jeremiah leaves bear claw, he stops and shoots a small deer.
      When the deer is shot, you can, for a split second, see the arm of a person
      that throws the deer onto the ground.

      Errors in geography
      The rescue party tells Johnson they have been watched all the way from the Gila River.
      The Gila is 400 miles south of the Colorado border.

      The Crow, Blackfoot and Flathead Indian tribes were up around what later became Montana.
      The Colorado territory, where Johnson is supposed to be, had the Arapaho and the Cheyenne.

      Factual errors
      The wedding song is actually a song the Salish people sing at funerals.
      The producers wanted a song during the wedding and the Salish don't have one.
      So the technical adviser, Johnny Arlee, gave them three songs to choose from
      and they liked "Coming Home", a death song.

      Early in the film during the winter a grizzly bear is shown chasing a
      Not likely since in the winter grizzly bears hibernate 5 to 7 months.

      When Jeremiah leaves the trading post at the beginning of the film,
      he states that his rifle is "only a .30 caliber, but it is still a Hawken".
      Soon after he takes a shot at a running deer (before finding Hatchet Jack's .50 cal. Hawken),
      and it can be clearly seen that the bore of his rifle is large - .50 cal. or larger.

      Del Gue clothes are pristine with the bright colors unaffected after being buried in the sand.

      Memorable Quotes

      Filming Locations
      Ashley National Forest, Vernal, Utah, USA
      Zion National Park, Springdale, Utah, USA
      St. George, Utah, USA
      Leeds, Utah, USA
      Snow Canyon State Park - 1002 Snow Canyon Drive, Ivins, Utah, USA
      Uinta National Forest, Provo, Utah, USA
      Kayenta, Arizona, USA
      Mexican Water, Arizona, USA
      Alpine Loop, Utah, USA
      Sundance Ski Resort - State Highway 92, Sundance, Utah, USA
      Wasatch-Cache National Forest, Salt Lake City, Utah, USA
      Sundance, Utah, USA
      Timpanogos, Utah, USA
      Best Wishes
      London- England
    • Jeremiah Johnson is a 1972 American western film
      directed by Sydney Pollack and starring Robert Redford as the title character
      and Will Geer as "Bear Claw" Chris Lapp.

      It is said to have been based partly on the life of the
      legendary mountain man Liver-Eating Johnson, based on Raymond Thorp
      and Robert Bunker's book Crow Killer: The Saga of Liver-Eating Johnson and Vardis Fisher's Mountain Man.

      The script was by John Milius and Edward Anhalt; the film was shot at various locations
      in Redford's adopted home state of Utah.

      It was entered into the 1972 Cannes Film Festival.

      User Review

      One of Redford's two or three best films
      19 January 2003 | by Keith F. Hatcher (La Rioja, Spain)

      KEITH wrote:

      A film which is glibly categorized as a `western' but goes somewhat deeper than that.

      The Pollack/Redford combination works well, and the photography of those magnificent mountains of Utah is spectacular. With all that beautiful scenery in Montana, Nevada, Colorado, Utah, I am surprised that the US government never does very much for saving it and cleaning up all that contamination ……..

      Thirty years on and after several viewings, I find this story grows on you, like the aging of fine wine in oak casks, such that another recent viewing gave me as much – if not more – pleasure. Precisely because it is not the standard `western' formula. One gets a little tired of John Wayne getting saddle-sore, killing indians and wooing women; at times watching `Jeremiah Johnson' I cannot help comparing a little with `Dances with Wolves' (qv), not because of any story similarity but more from certain situations being played out.

      Robert Redford has given us numerous films in which his characterization is pretty good in general, but in this film I rather fancy he was inspired, even to the point of throwing off that silly category so beloved of those suffering Hollywooditis. Most notable in `The Sting' (qv), `All the President's Men', `Out of Africa', and `A River Runs Through it', without forgetting his excellent directing of `Ordinary People', one of the best true-life dramas I have seen.

      `Jeremiah Johnson' is now one of the classics of the genre and even of cinema as a whole: always worth another viewing.
      Best Wishes
      London- England
    • This was one of my favorite movies when I was younger. I watched it whenever it came on TV. Now, I have it on DVD and can watch it anytime I want. :) Loved the character Del Gue.

      "I couldn't go to sleep at night if the director didn't call 'cut'. "
    • I remember this movie and like @dukefan1 enjoyed it when I was younger.
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