The Good Guys and the Bad Guys (1969)

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    • The Good Guys and the Bad Guys (1969)




      Plot Summary
      Marshal Flagg, an aging lawman about to be retired, hears that his old nemesis,
      the outlaw McKaye, is back in the area and planning a robbery.
      Riding out to hunt down McKaye, Flagg is captured by McKaye's gang and finds out that McKaye
      is no longer the leader of the gang, but is considered just an aging relic by the new leader,
      a youngster named Waco.
      Waco orders Mackaye to shoot Flagg, and when Mackaye refuses Waco abandons both of them.
      Flagg then takes Mackaye back to town only to find out that he has been "retired",
      and when he sees how clueless and incompetent the new marshal and the city fathers are,
      he persuades Mackaye that it is up to the two of them to stop Waco and his gang from ravaging the town.
      Written by frankfob2

      Robert Mitchum ... Flagg
      George Kennedy ... McKay
      Martin Balsam ... Mayor Wilker
      David Carradine ... Waco
      Tina Louise ... Carmel
      Douglas Fowley ... Grundy (as Douglas V. Fowley)
      Lois Nettleton ... Mary
      John Davis Chandler ... Deuce
      John Carradine ... Ticker
      Marie Windsor ... Polly
      Dick Peabody ... Boyle
      Kathleen Freeman ... Mrs. Stone - Mother
      Jimmy Murphy ... Buckshot
      Garrett Lewis ... Hawkins
      Bobby Riha ... Billy
      Jackie Joseph ... Doris
      Howard Storm ... Harry
      George Dunn ... Engineer #1
      Nick Dennis ... Engineer #2
      Phil Vandervort ... Simms
      and many more...

      Burt Kennedy

      Writing Credits
      Ronald M. Cohen ... (written by)
      Dennis Shryack ... (written by)

      Ronald M. Cohen ... producer
      Robert Goldstein ... executive producer
      Stan Jolley ... associate producer
      Dennis Shryack ... producer

      William Lava

      Harry Stradling Jr.

      Robert Mitchum admitted he regretted making this film.

      The red car, which gets cut in half by a train, is one of the
      "Leslie Specials" from The Great Race (1965).

      George Kennedy plays a character named McKay.
      He would later play a character called Carter McKay on the TV series Dallas (1978).

      This was originally going to be a John Wayne vehicle.

      Director Trademark
      Burt Kennedy: ["Fight!"] At the beginning of the fight scene, someone
      (in this case, an uncredited Richard Farnsworth) looks directly at the camera and yells, "Fight!"

      The train worker carrying the shotgun fires that shotgun at least ten times
      during scene in the tunnel where everything goes black.
      The sound effect for the shotgun had been established in previous scenes.
      The shots were far to close together to allow for any reloading;
      and since he was carrying a double barrel shotgun that many shots would have not been possible.

      When Flagg and McKay are running along the roof of the train,
      the view from inside the train shows their shadows on the cliff wall
      beside the tracks level with their actual position on the roof,
      as though the sun were nearly on the horizon throwing their shadow straight onto the cliff wall
      directly behind them.
      But when the view switches to overhead on top of the train,
      their shadows are directly below them as though the sun were directly overhead.
      This same pattern is repeated several times, camera overhead showing their shadow directly below them,
      then inside showing their shadows on the cliff wall out to the side.

      When Martin Balsam is getting dressed after being interrupted
      with his dalliance with Tina Louise, his collar is unbuttoned and vertical.
      When he is wearing his dressing gown, the collar is covered by the gown.
      However when he steps outside the collar is visible again.

      Revealing mistakes
      When the car is left on the tracks, and the train hits it and breaks it apart, #
      as it flies apart it is clearly just painted wooden sections fastened together on a frame to look like a car.
      There is no engine or drive train or interior,
      no seats or glass, and the wooden pieces can clearly be seen.

      Memorable Quotes

      Filming Locations
      Cumbres & Toltec Scenic Railroad, Chama, New Mexico, USA
      New Mexico, USA
      Silverton, Colorado, USA
      Janss Conejo Ranch, Thousand Oaks, California, USA
      Laramie Street, Warner Brothers Burbank Studios - 4000 Warner Boulevard, Burbank, California, USA
      Best Wishes
      London- England
    • The Good Guys and the Bad Guys is a 1969 American western film directed by
      Burt Kennedy. It stars Robert Mitchum and George Kennedy

      The movie was filmed on location in Chama, New Mexico, and other locations in New Mexico,
      Thousand Oaks, California, Silverton, Colorado, and the Warner Bros. Burbank Studios, California.

      Howard Thompson of the New York Times said, "Whatever possessed these three actors
      (Mitchum, Kennedy and Balsam) to amble through such a dinky prairie oyster stumps us.
      And so does the uncertain tone of the picture, methodically directed by Burt Kennedy,
      which only toward the end asserts itself, clearly and lamely, as a good-natured spoof."
      Thompson, however, did praise Harry Stradling Jr.'s cinematography.

      Duke's, 'Pals' in this one of course, Robert Mitchum, George Kennedy,
      John Carradine, Kathleen Freemnan, Marie Windsor

      User Review

      Easy goin' western with some funny scenes
      19 January 2001 | by loupgarou-2 (SW Florida)
      All right,I admit it,I'm a sucker for Westerns. I grew up on them and I still watch every new one I can find. That said, this is a somewhat above average western with some pretty funny moments. Robert Mitchum spoof his tough guy image as the marshall who insists that bad guy George Kennedy,an over the hill outlaw, is still a dangerous villain. For his troubles he gets a surprise retirement party. Mitchum and Kennedy then team together to upstage the young whippersnapper bad guys.
      All in all, a fun "buddy" western, I think most western movie lovers will get a chuckle from this film
      Best Wishes
      London- England