Posts from General Sterling Price in thread „Bloopers/ Goofs“

Good discussion here regarding what is a TRUE blooper. I often think of The Searchers, and the scene where Pat Wayne charges into the house to deliver the message from Col. Greenhill. According to Pat's own testimony, the entire scene could be consider by some to be a "blooper" because no one was saying their lines, and everyone was interrupting him when he was trying to say his. All of those interruptions by Ward Bond and Duke Wayne were NOT in the script--but it was great stuff and by no means a blooper. I guess for me, I would have a high standard to declare something a "blooper," for instance, clear factual errors, like the Custer death/Duke Calendar, and the terrible editing of the dummy/Mississippi scene in El Dorado, and the dead Indian breathing in The Searchers.

GSP

According to the documentary on the Quiet Man, something funny at the beginning is explainable. If you remember the opening scene when the train arrives and stops at the station, you see the door open, and Wayne gets out, and then you see him take an apple out of his pocket and point it to someone inside the train. That was in response to a scene that was cut from the film where they show Wayne talking to a boy on the train, and the boy gave him an apple. Unfortunately, there were many scenes in the Quiet man that were cut for the sake of shortening the film.

The key to watching the "dead" indian breathing is to watch his chest. Hands are folded, and you can see the chest rise quickly and then back down.

hey...My bad on Ward Bond in Big Trail. I don't have any of those books, so I have to rely on imdb.com. I do have "John Wayne: American" which is a good book, but its not exhaustive in cast lists, etc.

Now I will have to watch Big Trail again to look for Bond. GSP

I don't believe Ward Bond was in the Big Trail. I just verfied that he wasn't in the IMDB.com. Which character in the film are you talking about? GSP

Another one that I spotted is in EL DORADO. When Wayne first meets Mississippi and Nelse McLeod, he is standing with a drink, and McLeod is sitting at a table. As they speak, Wayne gestures to Mississippi, and if you look closely, you see that he slopped a good amount of his drink all over the floor. - GSP

Another bad one is in HONDO when stunt double Chuck is riding the horse around the ring to break it, and for whatever reason, they let him ride right past the camera for a full face shot, and its clear to anyone with eyes that this guy doesn't look anything like the Duke.

Similarly, in CHISUM, when the Duke fights with the bad guy at the end, they allow way too many close-up shots of the stunt double so that its easily obvious when its the Duke, and when its the double.

One of the silliest bloopers was in EL DORADO when Mississippi jumped in front of the charging horses, you can clearly see the frame jump when they cut to get him out and move the dummy in that the horses run over. One of the dummy's arms was in a completely different position from Mississippi.