Posts from RoughRider in thread „Duke's Missing And Rare Movies“

    Adventure's End seems to have disappeared from circulation in 1953 when it was last reissued.

    I found it interesting that NBC Universal took down California Straight Ahead from YouTube due to copyright violation. Someone had made available the entire film.

    It proves that Universal still retains ownership of the six-film series, and cares enough for a cease and desist order.

    This means, however unlikely, anyone releasing Adventure's End on DVD other than Universal would have legal problems.

    Well I finally received a phone call back from the people at Universal Pictures and they do not own the rights to Adventure's End. So now I'm on the quest to find out who does own the rights or (this would be great) it is public domain (not a great chance) I will be back in touch when new information is found and will keep you informed as this WILL get done!



    I am surprised Universal would say they do not own the copyright to Adventure's End.

    Universal Pictures Co., Inc. renewed the film's copyright on September 21, 1965 (renewal number R368573), about two months before the initial 28-year expiration.

    It could be that the person at Universal who phoned you is simply wrong, or legal claim to the film was subsequently sold outright to another entity (e.g. a television distributor).



    I finally watched Four Sons, with an eye for possibly seeing John Wayne in one of the streets scenes or as an 'officer' as listed in the IMDb.

    Below is a link to a simple animation of something that caught my eye, an edited sequence of what looks to be John Wayne in a street scene.

    Now, I'm not saying this is him. Such visual detective work is rather subjective in this particular case. I can only provide the evidence and a hunch that it might be Wayne. Chances are good, however, that it is not.

    For those who view the sequence, please post your gut feeling and tell us your opinion. For me, when I see the police officer smile, I see John Wayne. But that's just me.

    http://www.vanc.igs.net/~roughley/four_sons.html



    A few comments about the list:

    Men Without Women is available of course, as shown on television, but the print is incomplete since it's derived from a work print. Although it runs at 73 minutes, the film was copyrighted at 7,774' which is just over 86 minutes, but the general consensus is that it was originally 77 minutes. In the book John Ford: The Man and His Films, the author, Tag Gallagher, states, "The only known surviving prints are of a silent edition with intertitles. The talking version seems lost." But the book was published in 1988, probably before the work print was discovered and preserved by the Museum of Modern Art. So the work print has limited sound along with intertitles in an attempt to best recreate the original sound version. In summary, the film--the one in circulation--should be listed as incomplete.

    The AFI has nothing to do with Adventure's End. A video dealer here in Canada told me on the phone that he knows of a collector who has a 16mm print of the film, but refuses to make it available on DVD or any other medium.

    Sweetheart of Sigma Chi, the 1933 version, is available. I saw it on eBay a few years ago but it disappeared, perhaps for copyright reasons (the music not the actual film). The Sigma Chi Fraternity has a video copy of the 1933 version. They want to make it available to others, but can't until they figure out the rights situation.

    Annie Laurie is in circulation, too, since I've been told by a few people that someone out there has it but wants $200.

    Elly, thanks for sharing the stills with everyone.

    Thanks to Rough Rider's and Elly's new information.
    This list as at 11th. December 2009, has now been updated.



    The stills were from me, Keith. I just couldn't resist looking for Wayne's scenes in Hangman's House and sharing them.

    I've yet to watch Four Sons, but when I do (maybe tomorrow) has anyone actually spotted Wayne in the film as a guard, and if so where should I look with my finger ready on the pause trigger?

    About the updated list...where can I find it? Sorry, it's probably obvious but I'm parched and lost in the Arizona desert <g>.

    RoughRider, could you give a little more detail regarding that film festival . . . like where and when? That would be pretty exciting! It would be too much of a commute from the west coast, but perhaps some of our east coast members might be able to check it out . . . depending on where it is.

    Chester



    Girls Demand Excitement will be shown at the Fox Before the Code festival on December 18/19 at Film Forum, which is located at 209 W Houston Street, between 6th Avenue & Varick, in New York City.

    http://www.filmforum.org/films/foxfilms.html#girls

    Perhaps a precursor to a DVD release?




    Girls Demand Excitement will play in a New York film festival later this month.

    Bring your camcorder <g>.

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    Originally posted by ethanedwards@Dec 22 2006, 04:27 AM
    Hi,


    I echo Arthur, in hoping a 'new' lost film is recoverd!

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    Just to clarify, Adventure's End is *not* a lost film. A video dealer in Canada knows someone with a 16mm print but like many collectors, is not willing to loan it for transfer to DVD or any other format.