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Well, if you read this thread, you will find most Duke fans,
rate this film highly.
Duke was nominated for an Acedemy Award,
so it can't have been too bad!!

Hi H.sanada ,

Thanks for your post and reminding us about the sand,
it was mentioned on the very opening post to this thread,
but, it's a long time ago, since that was posted

Memorable Quotes

Officer giving the preinvasion briefing: Now, nobody knows exactly what they've got on this island,
but they've had forty years to put it there

Pfc. Al Thomas: That's war.
Pfc. Charlie Bass: What's war?
Pfc. Al Thomas: Trading real estate for men.

[During live fire training a Marine recruit accidently lets a grenade slip out of his hand
and it rolls toward an unsuspecting platoon waiting their turn]
Sgt. Stryker: Grenade. Hit the deck.
[The platoon runs, except for Conway, who is reading a love letter
and has to be tackled to safety by Stryker when the grenade goes off]
Sgt. Stryker: You idiot. When are you gonna wake up? You wanna see that dame again, keep your mind on your work.
Al Thomas: You may not know this, boy, but you just got your life saved.

Sergeant Stryker: SADDLE UP.

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More Goofs for the film,

Here are a couple itdo posted in the Bloopers thread,

Factual error: During the scene where Stryker is fighting with Forrest Tucker, an officers staff car pulls up. The car appears to be a 1946 or later Dodge or Plymouth, which was not yet manufactured.

And another thing about Iwo Jima: Wayne gets killed, he lies on his back. Then comes the shot of Forrest Tucker, looking down at him. Tuckers POV: Stryker is now lying on his belly. Somebody must've turned him over, right? (probably the guys from the FIRST flagraising on Surabachi, if you know what I mean )

Hi Vera,
Arthur is quite right to point out that this is the
reviewers, point of view.!
I actually believe, that Styker was a
compassionate man, and cared about
the welfare of his men.
He was hard on them
so that they were,aware, sharp,
and focussed, in battle.

Goofs

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* Continuity: After Sgt. Stryker dances with Choynski, he stands a little way from Choynski. The next shot shows them both side by side.

* Revealing mistakes: When Pfc. Thomas goes for more ammo and stops for coffee, the coffee is being brewed in a helmet over an open fire. He hands over his metal cup, and the fellow by the fire holds it in his bare hand as he fills it from the helmet.

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One more blooper I noticed in Sands of Iwo Jima was when the Marines were in the Landing Craft and in the one with John Wayne & Co in it on the front inside you see a message in white that says: "It's Too late To Worry Now" and if you notice that in different takes, the same words are there but the phrase is broken up differently.

Trivia

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* In one scene, combat veteran Sgt. Stryker (John Wayne) instructs bumbling recruit Pvt. Choynski (Hal Baylor) on the correct way to march and hold a rifle. In real life Baylor was an ex-Marine who fought in the horrific battles of Saipan and Tinian in WW II; Wayne had never spent a day in the military in his life.

* The three men who were part of the flag raising (made famous by the photograph Joe Rosenthal had taken) and survived the battle for Iwo Jima, were part of the movie with John Wayne. Rene A. Gagnon, Ira H. Hayes and John H. Bradley are seen with Wayne as he instructed them to hoist the flag (Wayne gave the folded flag to Gagnon).

Hi,

This film was reviewed as a special review, not long back,
so to bring it line with our current review strategy,
I'll post the full scenerio.

SANDS OF IWO JIMA

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INFORMATION BY IMDb IMDbPro.com

Plot Summary

After his wife takes their son and leaves him, Sgt. John Stryker is an embittered man who takes his misery out on the men under his command. They're a bunch of green recruits who have a hard time dealing with Stryker's tough drills and thicker skin. Even his old friends start to wonder if he's gone from being the epitome of the tough Marine drill instructor to a man over the edge.

Full Cast

James Edward Grant (screenplay) and
Harry Brown (screenplay)

Cast (in credits order) verified as complete
John Wayne .... Sgt. John M. Stryker
John Agar .... Pfc. Peter Conway
Adele Mara .... Allison Bromley
Forrest Tucker .... Pfc. Al Thomas
Wally Cassell .... Pfc. Benny Regazzi
James Brown .... Pfc. Charlie Bass
Richard Webb .... Pfc. Dan Shipley
Arthur Franz .... Cpl. Robert Dunne/Narrator
Julie Bishop .... Mary
James Holden .... Pfc. Soames
Peter Coe .... Pfc. George Hellenpolis
Richard Jaeckel .... Pfc. Frank Flynn
William Murphy .... Pfc. Eddie Flynn (as Bill Murphy)
George Tyne .... Pfc. Harris
Hal Baylor .... Pvt. 'Sky' Choynski (as Hal Fieberling)
John McGuire .... Capt. Joyce
Martin Milner .... Pvt. Mike McHugh
Leonard Gumley .... Pvt. Sid Stein
William Self .... Pvt. L.D. Fowler Jr.
David M. Shoup .... Himself (as Col. D.M. Shoup, U.S.M.C.)
H.P. Crowe .... Himself (as Lt. Col. H.P. Crowe, U.S.M.C.)
Harold G. Schrier .... Himself (as Capt. Harold G. Schrier, U.S.M.C.)
Rene A. Gagnon .... Himself (as Pfc. Rene A. Gagnon)
Ira H. Hayes .... Himself (as Pfc. Ira H. Hayes)
John H. Bradley .... Himself (as PM 3/c John H. Bradley)
rest of cast listed alphabetically:
David Clarke .... Wounded Marine (uncredited)
Bruce Edwards .... Marine (uncredited)
Dorothy Ford .... Tall girl (uncredited)
Don Haggerty .... Colonel in staff car (uncredited)
Gil Herman .... Lt. Baker (uncredited)
I. Stanford Jolley .... Forrestal (uncredited)
Dickie Jones .... Scared Marine (uncredited)
Dick Wessel .... Grenade instructor (uncredited)
John Whitney .... Lt. Thompson (uncredited)

Stunts

Fred Graham .... stunt double (uncredited)
Don Nagel .... stunts (uncredited)
Terry Wilson .... stunt double (uncredited)

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Originally posted by Senta@Dec 8 2005, 08:52 PM
...... It is explained in the film that she left him, because he wasn't family man and was devoted to the army. But I always thought that wifes had to share their husbands interests and thoughts and go to the same distanation were their husbands serve.

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Hi Vera,
Yours is a noble and admirable explanation,
Hopefully in your country this may be the case.
However, I am sure all over the World, many men and women,
persue their chosen careers, with scant regard for their partners, needs and wishes,

Keith

Interesting post ZACK613,
and thanks for the information,
it's good to know where
these actual newsreels come from,

Keith

Hi Vera,
I can't remember Stryker saying why his wife left him,
maybe another member may have spotted something.
Hi did have an unfinished letter to his son, when he got shot.
We can only assume therefore, that she did not support
his single minded, militiary career, and the son followed his mother,
Well, I guess that's what happens in real life????,
or is it ??

Keith

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Originally posted by ethanedwards@Dec 6 2005, 04:38 PM
Hi Everyone,

Duke had his footprints placed at Grauman's Chinese Theatre, for the films opening,the sand used for the event, was literally from Iwo Jima!!

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This is from my starting post,

Keith

Sands of Iwo Jima is a 1949 war film starring John Wayne
that follows a group of United States Marines
from training to the Battle of Iwo Jima during World War II.
The movie also features John Agar, Adele Mara, and Forrest Tucker,
was written by Harry Brown and James Edward Grant, and directed by Allan Dwan.
The picture was a Republic Pictures production.

Sands of Iwo Jima was nominated for Academy Awards
for Best Actor in a Leading Role (John Wayne),
Best Film Editing, Best Sound, Recording (Daniel J. Bloomberg)
and Best Writing, Motion Picture Story.

Truly one of Duke's finest, and his role as Sergeant John M. Stryker,
one of his greatest acting roles.
So good, that he was nominated for an Academy Award,
narrowly missing out to Broderick Crawford.
The Director said, that no one else could have played Sryker,
better than Duke.
The film score was by Victor Young

The famous flag raising, was recreated with the Marines who had
actually lifted the colours on Iwo Jima.
The film however, did win Academy Awards for,
Motion Picture Story, Editing and Sound.

Duke had his footprints placed at Grauman's Chinese Theatre,
for the films opening,the sand used for the event, was literally from Iwo Jima!!

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Exploiting A Symbol
9 November 2006 | by bkoganbing (Buffalo, New York)

Although Clint Eastwood's recent Flags of Our Fathers has told the real story about the flag raising at Iwo Jima, it hasn't diminished any of the impact that Sands of Iwo Jima has, either back when it was released or viewed today.

In fact because the three surviving flag raisers, Joseph Bradley, Rene Gagnon, and Ira Hayes all were in this film it's even more proof of how the symbolic flag raising has become mythologized.

Of course the real heroism was in capturing the island that was less than a 1000 miles from the main islands of Japan and the airfields on Iwo Jima that could be used by our bombers for land based flights. It took about a month to do that, the flag was raised on the fifth day.

I read a history of the United States Marine Corps from it's formation during the American Revolution. Over the course of its history it was interesting to learn that the Marines many times were threatened with extinction, to be folded into either the army or navy right up to and including World War I.

Right after World War I a very farsighted man named John A. Lejeune became the Marine Corps Commandant and he saw that we would be in a war in the Pacific with the Japanese as our foes. He also saw that the survival of the Marines as an entity involved them training for a very specialized kind of mission, amphibious warfare. He started training them for that and come World War II they were certainly ready.

John Wayne as Sergeant Striker got one of his most memorable parts of his career in Sands of Iwo Jima. Striker is a tough as nails Marine Corps lifer whose got a job to whip a lot of recruits into shape for the later Pacific landings after Guadalcanal. He's also got one lousy personal life as his wife's left him and taken their son.

Wayne got his first Oscar nomination for Best Actor in this part. There's a couple of other films he should have gotten a nomination for, but that's another story. Among his competition in 1949 was Kirk Douglas for Champion, Richard Todd for The Hasty Heart, and Gregory Peck for Twelve O'Clock High. Note three of the nominees were for World War II related films. But the winner that year was Broderick Crawford for All the King's Men. At least Peck and Wayne both got Oscars later in their careers.

John Agar who was trying to carve out a reputation as being more than Mr. Shirley Temple back then plays the son of a former commander of Wayne's who has a problem with his Dad and takes it out on Wayne attitude wise as a surrogate father. Julie Bishop and Adele Mara play women drawn to both Wayne and Agar respectively.

Of the supporting cast who play members of Wayne's platoon, my favorite is Wally Cassell, the wisecracking city kid who finds a tank to help his platoon out during a sticky situation.

Flags of Our Fathers teaches us about how the flag raising symbolism became part of the Marine Corps heritage. Sands of Iwo Jima exploits that symbol in the best sense of the word. After almost sixty years, it's still a fine film with a grand performance by the Duke.

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Plot Summary
After his wife takes their son and leaves him, Sgt. John Stryker is an embittered man
who takes his misery out on the men under his command.
They're a bunch of green recruits who have a hard time dealing
with Stryker's tough drills and thicker skin.
Even his old friends start to wonder if he's gone from being the epitome
of the tough Marine drill instructor to a man over the edge.

Full Cast
John Wayne ... Sgt. John M. Stryker
John Agar ... Pfc. Peter Conway
Adele Mara ... Allison Bromley
Forrest Tucker ... Pfc. Al Thomas
Wally Cassell ... Pfc. Benny Regazzi
James Brown ... Pfc. Charlie Bass
Richard Webb ... Pfc. 'Handsome' Dan Shipley
Arthur Franz ... Cpl. Robert Dunne / Narrator
Julie Bishop ... Mary
James Holden ... Pfc. Soames
Peter Coe ... Pfc. George Hellenpolis
Richard Jaeckel ... Pfc. Frank Flynn
William Murphy ... Pfc. Eddie Flynn (as Bill Murphy)
George Tyne ... Pfc. Harris
Hal Baylor ... Pvt. 'Sky' Choynski (as Hal Fieberling)
John McGuire ... Capt. Joyce
Martin Milner ... Pvt. Mike McHugh
Leonard Gumley ... Pvt. Sid Stein
William Self ... Pvt. L.D. Fowler Jr.
David M. Shoup ... Himself (as Col. D.M. Shoup U.S.M.C.)
H.P. Crowe ... Himself (as Lt. Col. H.P. Crowe U.S.M.C.)
Harold G. Schrier ... Himself (as Capt. Harold G. Schrier U.S.M.C.)
Rene A. Gagnon ... Himself (as Pfc. Rene A. Gagnon)
Ira H. Hayes ... Himself (as Pfc. Ira H. Hayes)
John H. Bradley ... Himself (as PM 3/c John H. Bradley)
Conrad Binyon ... Marine (uncredited)
David Clarke ... Wounded Marine (uncredited)
Fred Datig Jr. ... Marine (uncredited)
Bruce Edwards ... Marine (uncredited)
Dorothy Ford ... Tall Girl (uncredited)
Carole Gallagher ... USO Woman (uncredited)
Fred Graham ... Officer (uncredited)
Don Haggerty ... Colonel in Staff Car (uncredited)
Gil Herman ... Lt. Baker (uncredited)
William Hudson ... Marine (uncredited)
I. Stanford Jolley ... Forrestal (uncredited)
Dickie Jones ... Scared Marine (uncredited)
Billy Lechner ... Marine (uncredited)
Mickey McCardle ... Marine (uncredited)
Roger McGee ... Sailor (uncredited)
Al Murphy ... Bartender (uncredited)
Frank O'Connor ... Waiter in Bar (uncredited)
Judy Sochor ... USO Woman (uncredited)
Glen Vernon ... Marine (uncredited)
Steve Wayne ... Marine (uncredited)
Dick Wessel ... Grenade Instructor (uncredited)
John Whitney ... Lt. Thompson (uncredited)
Joy Windsor ... USO Woman (uncredited)

Writing Credits
James Edward Grant (screenplay) and
Harry Brown (screenplay)

Original Music
Victor Young

Cinematography
Reggie Lanning (director of photography)

Stunts
Fred Graham .... stunt double (uncredited)
Don Nagel .... stunts (uncredited)
Terry Wilson .... stunt double (uncredited)

Trivia
In one scene, combat veteran Sgt. Stryker (John Wayne) instructs bumbling recruit Pvt. Choynski (Hal Baylor) on the correct way to march and hold a rifle. In real life Baylor was an ex-Marine who fought in the battles of Saipan and Tinian in WW II; Wayne had never served in the military.

This film recreates the famous Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima scene as known famously from an historic photograph which was taken on the 23rd February, 1945, by Joe Rosenthal. The three surviving flag raisers make a cameo appearance during this scene in the film. These three men who were part of the flag raising (made famous by the photograph Joe Rosenthal had taken) and survived the battle for Iwo Jima, appear in this scene only. Rene A. Gagnon, Ira H. Hayes and John H. Bradley are seen with with John Wayne as he instructs them to hoist the flag (Wayne gives the folded flag to Gagnon). The flag used to recreate the incident is the actual flag that was raised on Mount Suribachi on February 23, 1945. It was loaned to the movie by the US Marine Corps Museum in Quantico, Virginia. (Other films which would later depict the flag-raising on Iwo Jima include The Outsider (1961) and Flags of Our Fathers (2006).)

Following the success of the movie, John Wayne was invited to place his footprints in cement outside Grauman's Chinese Theater. As part of the event, actual black sand from Iwo Jima was flown to Hollywood and mixed into the cement in which The Duke left his footprints and "fist print".

Kirk Douglas was originally cast as Sergeant Stryker.

John Wayne almost turned the film down at first, since at 42 he was rather old for the part and because he felt the American public had had enough of war films.

According to the book New Zealand Film by Helen Martin and Sam Edwards, "During the early sections of the film, the R&R camp at Paekakariki in the lower half of the North Island [of New Zealand] was the setting for the meeting and bonding sequences prior to departing for battle. The same camp is the focus of the reminiscences of one of the women who contributed to Gaylene Preston's documentary War Stories [See: War Stories (1995)].

Apparently, this movie has the first ever recorded use of the phrase "lock and load", said by John Wayne. "Lock and load" is a military command meaning to apply a weapon's safety catch, and then load it with ammunition. The expression was used once in this film for this meaning and once as a metaphor to get drunk, as in get loaded.

This movie's credits state the following historical note: "The first American flag was raised on Mount Suribachi by the late Sgt. Ernest I. Thomas, Jr., U.S.M.C. on the morning of February 23, 1945."

Two thousand United States Marines appeared as extras in this movie according to an article in The Los Angeles Daily News.

The New York Times reported that location filming for this movie was shot at Camp Del March; El Toro Marine Air Station, Southern California and at Marine Corps Base Camp Pendleton, Southern California.

Many of the battle scenes in this movie were taken from actual combat "footage taken at the actual fighting at Tarawa and Iwo Jima" according to a review in Variety.

Apparently, according to The New York Times, script approval was made by the US Marine Corps.

A number of actual military personnel portrayed themselves in this movie. These included Retired Lieutenant General Holland M. Smith who was the 5th Amphibious Corps Wartime Commander and also acted as a technical advisor to the film; Colonel David M. Shoup USMC who received the Congressional Medal of Honor; Captain Harold G. Schrier USMC who commanded the Marines at the Suribachi slopes; Lieutenant Colonel H.P. Crowe USMC who was a Battalion Commander at Tarawa; Pfc Rene A. Gagnon; Pfc Ira H. Hayes and PM 3/c John H. Bradley.

The New York Times reported on 5 February 1950 that the Republic Pictures Studio once developed a sequel to this movie entitled Devil Birds also to again star John Wayne but alas the sequel did not eventuate.

A made-for-television documentary about the making of this movie was made forty-four years after this movie was made, entitled The Making of 'Sands of Iwo Jima' (1993) (V). It featured interviews with still living cast members.

The title "Sands of Iwo Jima" was once seen by this movie's producer Edmund Grainger in a newspaper story. Alas, Grainger thought of the famous American flag raising at Mount Suribachi. He then went off and wrote a treatment with this title and an ending being the famous flag raising scene. Grainger wished the movie would be successful at the box-office as well as accurate representation of the US Marine Corps' valour on celluloid. He also wanted the movie to have an influence on the public's attitude towards the US Marines as at the time the Marines were in fight for survival and needed more financing.

Special effects work on this movie included lampblack and oil covered sand to look like the volcanic ash of a Pacific island as well as gun emplacements, palm trees, and pillboxes all made of plaster.

Due to the assistance of the US Marines, producer Edmund Grainger and director Allan Dwan were able to keep the production budget for this movie to around the US $1 million mark.

This movie utilized actual original black-and-white newsreel footage. This material is edited into this movie's combat scenes.

John Wayne received his first ever Academy Award nomination for this movie. He wouldn't be nominated for an Acting Oscar again until twenty years later for True Grit (1969) where he would win the Best Actor Oscar. Wayne did receive a producer's Best Picture nomination for The Alamo (1960) in between these two films.

Thousands of feet of barbed wire were used in the making of this movie.

A colorized version of this movie has been made.

Mostly unnoticed is the homage this film pays to a real Marine, "Manila" John Basilone. Basilone was a Sergeant and hero on Guadacanal, winning the Medal of Honor. He was sent home for war bond drives but requested to be returned to combat. He did so and died on Iwo Jima. There is a famous (to history buffs, anyway)photo of his body on Iwo Jima, face down and with his name visible, that is almost exactly the same pose that Wayne is in at his death on film. Also, "Jonathan M" Stryker has more than a passing resemblance to "Manila (or M) John".

Goofs
* Continuity: After Sgt. Stryker dances with Choynski, he stands a little way from Choynski. The next shot shows them both side by side.

* Factual errors: The first battle the movie's unit participates in is Tarawa. Tarawa was assaulted by the 2nd Marine Division. The same unit is then engaged in the Iwo Jima campaign. Iwo Jima was invaded by the 3rd, 4th and 5th Marine Divisions. It's very unlikely that Stryker's whole squad would have been transferred to another division. Furthermore, earlier in the film Stryker refers to his involvement in the Guadalcanal assault. That was a 1st Marine Division show. Though not impossible, it's highly unlikely for a junior NCO to have served with three different divisions in the Pacific.

* Factual errors: When Pfc. Thomas (Forrest Tucker) goes for more ammo and stops for coffee, the coffee is being brewed in a helmet over an open fire. He hands over his metal cup, and the fellow by the fire holds it in his bare hand as he fills it from the helmet. Ouch. Anyone who has been camping will see the error here.

* Revealing mistakes: When the Marines are moving up the mountain along a path, a Japanese soldier pops out of hiding and appears to shoot one of the Marines in the stomach at point blank range. One can see that the enemy soldier actor shot just beyond the Marine actor because a puff of smoke from the gun barrel emits out past the Marine actor's back. This was probably a safety requirement in the making of the movie, since blanks fired out of a weapon can seriously injure or kill.

* Continuity: The way Stryker holds the rifle when he tells Conway that he checked the records.

* Continuity: Conway's hands change position while with Allison at the end of their first meeting.

* Continuity: Mary's hands change position when Stryker buys her the drink.

* Continuity: The way Mary holds the whiskey bottle changes.

* Continuity: The way Stryker holds the sawbuck changes.

* Revealing mistakes: Two errors are visible when Stryker is attacked by the Jap: Stryker's positioning and arm movement is not consistent, and the Jap is hit by the handle of the entrenching tool before Conway throws it.

* Errors in geography: In the training scenes, set in New Zealand, a row of Eucalyptus trees is seen. These are native to Australia and are not found in New Zealand. (There have been groves of them planted in California though.)

* Audio/visual unsynchronized: SPOILER: Sgt. Stryker is shot dead, and is lying on his back in the master. Then they cut to a reverse angle, revealing the corpse face down.

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Filming Locations
CBS Studio Center - 4024 Radford Avenue, Studio City, Los Angeles, California, USA
Camp Pendleton Marine Corps Base, Oceanside, California, USA
Janss Conejo Ranch, Thousand Oaks, California, USA
Leo Carrillo State Beach - 35000 W. Pacific Coast Highway, Malibu, California, USA
Santa Catalina Island, Channel Islands, California, USA

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