That's a lovely picture, looks like Duke was having a great time. Really underrated this IMO
I totally agree
That's a lovely picture, looks like Duke was having a great time. Really underrated this IMO
I totally agree
Great story Jim, thanks for the insightful post
Hi,
I have been researching all the threads, back to the start of the JWMB,
looking for previous discussion, relating to the movies.
I have found the following, comments, and have copied them here,
so that they are now under one forum:-
Rooster Cogburn..., And Katharine Hepburn
QuoteDisplay MoreA Girl Named Jen
post Sep 21 2003, 02:18 PM
I watched (most of) Rooster Cogburn yesterday. (Is it called Rooster Cogburn, or Rooster Cogburn... and the Lady?) Anyhoo, I thought it was immensely enjoyable - not his best movie, certainly, but lots of fun and I greatly enjoyed the interplay between he and Kate Hepburn. Here you've got two people who seem like complete opposites and yet really seem to have a great deal of respect for each other. I wonder if this translated to their off-screen working relationship too; I like to think so.
Of course, there were lots of elements in it that reminded me a great deal of The African Queen - the movie KH made with Humphrey Bogart, where he played a hard-drinking "sinner" and she played a "Bible-beating" spinster.
Can someone help me with the exact quote from KH's little speech at the end of the film? She talks about Rooster's big bear paws and his one sparkling eye and tells him that he's a credit to the male sex. I found it incredibly touching and it almost brought tears to my eyes. I think it expresses how a lot of ladies feel about Duke.
QuoteDisplay MoreSue D Nim
post Sep 21 2003, 05:33 PM
Hi, Jen. I'm new here. Nice to meet you.
That always brings a lump to my throat, too. John Wayne and Katharine Hepburn are two of my very favorites, and every minute of watching them together is a treat. I agree, there are tons of similarities between this movie and The African Queen (another of my favorites of hers .. hmm, I wonder if there's a forum as good as this for Katharine Hepburn fans?).
I looked up the exact wording, and I'm pretty sure this is accurate:
I look at you with your burnt out face and your big belly and your bear like paws and your shining eye, and I have to say, you’re a credit to the whole male sex. And I’m proud to have you for my friend.
Don't you just love that speech? It's when she gets to "shining eye," and her voice catches and a tear shines in her eye, that gets to me every time.
As for the title, I think it was released under both titles, "Rooster Cogburn" in the U.S., and "Rooster Cogburn and the Lady" elsewhere. Somebody else can probably verify this better than I can. I don't know why they do that to movies! They do it to books, too.
- Sue
QuoteDisplay Moresmokey
post Sep 22 2003, 12:29 PM
hi jen and sue
down under that movie was released under both names and i know what you mean about name changes they did that to one of our movies called "mad max" down under but in the US it was known as "the road warrior" i think it has something to do with appeal to the different countries that is why they change the names of books and movies
cheers smokey
QuoteDisplay MoreA Girl Named Jen
post Sep 22 2003, 01:39 PM
Thanks so much, Sue! Welcome! I'm pretty new here as well but it already feels nice & cosy & homey.
So pull up a chair and set a spell by the fire.
Thanks for the quote! Awww. I love it. Yes, KH looked like she had tears in her eyes there and it felt so real. When you've got such great actors working together you're bound to have something special.
In The African Queen, I get a lump in my throat when Rose says, "Dear, what is your name?" He says "Charlie," and she says "Charlie. It's a nice name!" or something to that effect. Simple things can be so beautiful sometimes!
Here's a quote from chester, regarding it's filming locations:-
QuoteDisplay Morechester7777
post Aug 13 2003, 06:43 AM
Here is a little more detailed list, from IMDb -
Filming Locations for Rooster Cogburn (1975)
Bend, Oregon, USA
Deschutes National Forest, Oregon, USA
Grants Pass, Oregon, USA
Rogue River, Oregon, USA
Some of our favorite country, we're hoping to retire to the Rogue River area of Oregon in the future.
Chester
Below are a couple of more links:-
Critic Time: True Grit and Rooster Cogburn
Memorable Quotes
Eula Goodnight : I do not fear a skunk. I simply do not care for its odor.
Rooster Cogburn : It's payday, boys, come and get it!
INFORMATION IMDb
Rooster Cogburn, originally promoted as Rooster Cogburn (... and the Lady),
is a 1975 film sequel to the 1969 Western film True Grit.
The film stars John Wayne, in his penultimate film, who reprises his role as
U.S. Marshal Reuben J. "Rooster" Cogburn.
Katharine Hepburn co-stars as spinster Eula Goodnight
Well to me, this was True Grit , Part II,
Not quite as good, but the leading lady, sure was, an improvement!
It was a good script and very well acted, and it was obvious the two stars,
mutually admired one another. This was their only outing together, and it's a pity,
they were not paired before!
It also seemed to me, that this was a western version, of
The African Queen
same leading lady, just the man was Duke!
User Review
QuoteDisplay MoreA western romp with some excellent acting by both the stars and the supporting cast.
23 July 2001 | by tneufeld (Tokyo)
This movie is more than just a lot of fun to watch. John Wayne and Katharine Hepburn are wonderful, but only because they are together. The chemistry between them is electrifying.
Richard Jordan plays his villan role to a "T". He is mean and nasty, and he keeps his character believeable to the end. There is a scene between him and Katharine Hepburn at Fort Ruby that is absolutely brilliant, you could feel the lightning flashing between their characters.
Think about the scene where the wheel broke off the wagon: Hawk gets furious with his men and Jordan's character did a great job with his part: he seem really angry, as if looks could kill. His expressions, well, it gave me the willies.
Don't you agree that Anthony Zerbe created a believeable "Breed". The two of them, Jordan and Zerbe are so believeable together. Remember the scene in the saloon when Hawk learns about the wagon being taken by Rooster? He starts to go out and Breed tells him, that he worked with Rooster for three years...and that he knows that Breed will never take Rooster? There is some great chemistry in that scene! They have tried to make movies like this before, but it hasn't happened yet: movies that made the actors create a film a success that was not relying on special affects alone, but just the characters and the story.
ROOSTER COGBURN
DIRECTED BY STUART MILLER
PRODUCED BY HAL B. WALLIS/ PAUL NATHAN
A HAL B. WALLIS PRODUCTION
UNIVERSAL PICTURES
Photo with the courtesy of lasbugas
INFORMATION FROM IMDb
Plot Summary
A small village in the Indian Nation that is run by a Minister Goodnight
and his daughter Eula is overrun by a band of drunken thugs.
They kill and rape the people of the village.
Miss Goodnight then teams up with the ruthless Marshal Rooster J. Cogburn
who goes after them and bring them to justice.
Full Cast
John Wayne .... Marshal Reuben J. 'Rooster' Cogburn
Katharine Hepburn .... Eula Goodnight
Anthony Zerbe .... Breed
Richard Jordan .... Hawk
John McIntire .... Judge Parker
Richard Romancito .... Wolf
Paul Koslo .... Luke
Jack Colvin .... Red
Jon Lormer .... Rev. George Goodnight
Lane Smith .... Leroy
Warren Vanders .... Bagby
Strother Martin .... Shanghai McCoy
Jerry Gatlin .... Nose
Richard Farnsworth .... Rooster's deputy (scenes deleted)
Tommy Lee .... Chen Lee
Mickey Gilbert .... Hambone (uncredited)
Chuck Hayward .... Jerry (uncredited)
Gary McLarty .... Emmett (uncredited)
Writing Credits
Martha Hyer written by (as Martin Julien)
Charles Portis character
Original Music
Laurence Rosenthal
Cinematography
Harry Stradling Jr. (director of photography)
Stunts
Jerry Gatlin .... stunt coordinator
Gary Combs .... stunts (uncredited)
Quentin Dickey .... stunts (uncredited)
Jerry Gatlin .... stunts (uncredited)
Mickey Gilbert .... stunts (uncredited)
Chuck Hayward .... stunts (uncredited)
Kevin N. Johnston .... stunts (uncredited)
Gary McLarty .... stunts (uncredited)
Chuck Roberson .... stunt double: John Wayne (uncredited)
Chuck Roberson .... stunts (uncredited)
George Robotham .... stunts (uncredited)
Jerry Summers .... stunts (uncredited)
Trivia
Jon Lormer, who plays Katharine Hepburn's father, was only one year older than her.
There had been plans for another film featuring the character Rooster Cogburn, to be entitled "Someday", but it was canceled when this movie proved to be only a moderate hit at the box office. In addition Paramount Pictures felt that John Wayne had become too old to carry a successful movie, and that in any case audiences in the mid-1970s were not interested in westerns.
During filming John Wayne was injured teaching his eight-year-old daughter to play golf, but fortunately his eye patch concealed the mark. He had been working on one lung for the past ten years and had great difficulty breathing due to the high altitude, often needing to breathe through an oxygen mask.
This was Katharine Hepburn's only Western.
Richard Jordan later admitted he decided to overplay his part because he thought the movie was going to flop, and if anybody paid to see it then it would only be for the two stars. He also said he felt that Katharine Hepburn was about to die at any minute - ironically, she outlived him by a decade.
The official still photographer for this movie was Susie Tracy, daughter of Katharine Hepburn's longtime lover Spencer Tracy.
During location filming, the crew wore printed t-shirts that read "We love Brother John" on the front and "...and Sister Kate, too!" on the back. John Wayne and Katharine Hepburn were, reportedly, very much amused by this.
Although John Wayne and Katharine Hepburn refer to Strother Martin as "Old Man", he was in fact twelve years younger than them.
Richard Fleischer was originally offered the director's job by the studio and accepted it. John Wayne, however, had director approval and was still irked at Fleischer for having turned down North to Alaska (1960) 15 years previously, and vetoed Fleischer as director. It was eventually given to Stuart Millar.
The last movie produced by Hal B. Wallis.
"Martin Julien" allegedly covers the writing talents of producer Hal B. Wallis, his wife Martha Hyer, and some friends.
Director Stuart Miller insisted on so many takes that eventually John Wayne snapped, "God damn it Stuart, there's only so many times we can say these awful lines before they stop making any sense at all."
Katharine Hepburn was bemused by co-star John Wayne's tendency to argue with everybody, especially the director, during filming. At the party to celebrate the last day of filming she told him, "I'm glad I didn't know you when you had two lungs, you must have been a real bastard. Losing a hip has mellowed me, but you!"
John Wayne found making the film to be very difficult, particularly since he had just finished a grueling shoot on Brannigan (1975).
There was some surprise when Katharine Hepburn accepted the role of Eula Goodnight, since more than twenty years earlier she had turned down Geraldine Page's role in Hondo (1953) because she would not work with John Wayne at the height of the blacklist.
The film received terrible reviews on release. Many critics felt that it was too obviously derived from The African Queen (1951), and that both John Wayne and Katharine Hepburn were too old for their parts.
Neville Brand was considered for a major role.
Eula mentions a poet, Ella Sturgis Hooper. The real name is Ellen Sturgis Hooper (1812 - 1848). She was member of the Transcendental Club and regarded as one of the most gifted poets among the Transcendentalists of New England.
This was screen legends John Wayne and Katharine Hepburn's only joint venture in a feature film. There had been plans to reunite the two stars in a sequel entitled "Someday", but this never happened since this film was a critical and financial failure.
Goofs
* Errors in geography: The movie is set in Arkansas (per the court scene immediately following the opening), but features mountains, a river canyon, and other natural features totally unlike anything in Arkansas. Not surprisingly, these features are found in Oregon, where the movie was shot.
* Continuity: As Rooster, Eula, and Wolf ride quickly through the woods after first spotting Hawk's gang, Rooster wears a coat, then just a shirt in the long shot, and the coat again.
* Continuity: When drunken Rooster starts to stand up after target practice, his rifle is in his hand. But when the scene cuts and he walks away, there is not a rifle in is hand.
* Continuity: When Rooster Cogburn is fending off the pursuing bandits, he fires up at them on a rocky hillside from below on the river on a raft with a Gatling gun. In one scene as he fires away with the Gatling, the camera angle is from above both the bandits and Cogburn and shows multiple bullets hitting the rocks just around the bandits feet which are on a flat ledge jutting out on the hill and is an obviously impossible spot to hit due to the location of the Gatling gun and the angle of the ledge.
* Audio/visual unsynchronized: Just before Rooster sends Wolf out to keep watch on the big flat rock, he talks about Chen Lee and General Sterling Price. When he says "General Sterling Price" in that scene, his lips don't match the words being said. You can also hear the audio change back and forth.
* Continuity: When Rooster and Eula are handing the bottle of whiskey back and forth, the level of whiskey in the bottle changes between shots.
* Anachronisms: The cases of nitroglycerin at issue in the movie are labeled "Hercules Nitroglycerin." However, the Hercules Powder Company, which did produce nitroglycerin, did not come into existence until 1912, a result of an antitrust action brought against E.I. du Pont. As the movie plainly takes place in the late 1800s, Hercules could not have produced the nitroglycerin at issue.
* Revealing mistakes: In the first attack on Rooster and company 3 small bottles of nitro are thrown like hand grenades. The explosions are noticeably distant from where the bottles land.
* Continuity: Breed (Anthony Zerbe) is clearly shown taking three bottles of nitroglycerin from a crate, and you can see he is holding three bottles as he rides down the hill. A wide shot shows the first two bottles being thrown, then a closer shot of the third bottle being thrown, but in that shot you can see he is holding another bottle of nitroglycerin in his non-throwing hand, which would make four bottles total.
* Continuity: When they are on the raft at night, Eula and Rooster are talking. When the camera is on Rooster, we see the background moving as if he is facing downstream. Similarly, when Eula is in shot, she appears to moving downstream. As they are facing each other, it is impossible for them to be both facing downstream.
* Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): After the initial gunfight, Rooster Cogburn is bringing all the dead men back to the town. The deputy sheriff is lying dead over the saddle on the first horse behind Rooster. If you watch you will see him lift his head independent of the horse's movement and then moments later he slumps down again to play dead.
* Revealing mistakes: When Rooster gets the Pepperbox out to give to Wolf, he says "I got me a 22 Pepperbox." The bore in the end of the barrel is to big for a 22 cal, it is more like a 36 cal, which was the most common caliber used.
* Continuity: In the confrontation between Miss Goodnight (Katherine Hepburn) and Judge Parker (John McIntire) in the closing moments of the film, he acts as though he has never heard Cogburn (John Wayne) called by his true name, Reuben. However, in the courtroom scene at the beginning of "True Grit," the same character (with James Westerfield in the role) is sitting at the bench as the bailiff (Dennis McMullen) clearly calls "Marshal Reuben J. Cogburn" to the stand.
* Revealing mistakes: The stunt doubles for John Wayne, Katharine Hepburn and Richard Romancito are very obvious in the riverboat scenes.
* Revealing mistakes: The raft is stopped by a rope stretched across the river. It is obvious that the rope didn't stop the raft and when Rooster cuts the rope it is not taut from the tension of holding the raft but just laying in the water and obviously not holding the raft at all.
* Continuity: At the beginning of the movie Rooster's deputy gets shot along with 4 desperadoes - 3 at the table and 1 hiding in the corner. Rooster then rides back to town with the deputy's body and only 3 of the desperadoes. What happened to the 4th desperado's body?
Filming Locations
Deschutes National Forest - 1001 Southwest Emkay Drive, Bend, Oregon, USA
Grants Pass, Oregon, USA
Rogue River, Oregon, USA
Six Points Texas, Backlot, Universal Studios - 100 Universal City Plaza, Universal City, California, USA
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