Posts from ethanedwards in thread „The Quiet Man (1952)“

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As long as we're talking about Ward Bond...does anyone know if any of the footage still exists of Father Lonaghin's conversation with Michelien Flynn that was cut from very early in The Quiet Man. I know teh scene was cut because it was a discussion of the Padre's gambling debts but I wondered if anyone had ever seen it or at least the script for dialogue.

Batjac, this was posted in our thread
The Quiet Man

Quote from itdo

Talking about the Quiet Man got my appetite up to read again Frank Nugents wonderful Screenplay. It's obvious that Ford added a lot right on the spot - such as our little piece of business with the stick - that line delivered by the old woman when giving the stick to Wayne who says "Thanks" isn't in the script.

To make businessman Herbert Yates happy Ford had to cut away to keep the film under 120 min running time. We know about that little scene in the beginning, when Fitzgerald brings Wayne into town and happens to come across the padre. There's a bit of dialogue there which Ford had to cut out. Here it is:

LONERGAN (change of mood)
Good... Sean, if I would have a word with Michaeleen... It is in reference...

The poor man stops, realizing he has come close to putting a lie on his soul.

SEAN
Sure thing, Father...

Sean hops down.

LONERGAN: (still a bit conscience-stricken)
It will not take a minute... It is only a matter of... of...

He bogs down again.

MICHAELEEN (rescuing him)
Sean understands, Father... Sure in America it's always business before the pleasure.

SEAN (starting away)
Take your time... I'll be down the line.

Lonergan looks after him gratefully, then comes closer to Michaeleen.

LONDERGAN
How do I stand in your books, Michaeleen?

Michaeleen pulls out a tattered pocket ledger.

MICHAELEEN:
Let me see now... Here it is... three pounds, eight shillings and six pence... less the two shillings ye lost on Mad Hatter Friday last.

LONERGAN
Devil take him for going wide on the far turn.

He blesses himself by way of apology.

MICHAELEEN:
Which leaves three pounds, six-and-six.

LONERGAN: (almost wringing his hands)
And poor Dermot Fahy making the stations six nights a week, praying for a new fiddle!... Ah, he's a faithful lad.

MICHAELEEN
He is that.

LONERGAN: (needing all the assurance he can get)
And he has been doing his part...? putting his shillings aside... not scattering them at the pub.

MICHAELEEN (stoutly)
Devil a scatter... ah, maybe a pint now and again...

Lonergan holds up his hand. He doesn't want to weaken.

LONERGAN
Then half a crown on Ard-Ri in the steeplechase today.

MICHAELEEN (impressed)
Half a crown!

LONERGAN (jaw firm, eyes aloft)
Make it a crown... now I had best go say my beads.

And he stomps off while Michaeleen, with doleful face -- for he has misgivings about Ard-Ri -- enters the item in his ledger.

Here the script would make transition to Sean again, seeing Mary Kate for the first time. Now that little dialogue scene was vintage Ford - would have loved to have seen that.

By the way, the original book by Maurice Walsh, "The Green Rushes", a collection of his stories with the "Quiet Man" in it, is really a treat as well and one can imagine why this story became Ford's pet project and obsession for so many years.

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Thanks for the post and link Romy, Very Interesting

Quote from Dooley

I can't wait for this one. The DVD is such poor quality!
I will be wearing my big newsboy cap in honour when I watch it.
Ethankeith, is all this being re-posted on the Olive Films thread too? It should be!

Peter, probably not,
but I will copy it over there

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Wayne, thank you for the update

Boys and girls, can we stay on topic please

Thanks, now also edited into the first post

Quote from colkid60

Ethanedwards- thank you for the videos they are beautiful with pleasant memories and
the Music enhances the mood. Where can I get a copy of that music?
I have a desire to go back to Ireland sometime and go to Cong.

Although off topic, there is more information on the score here:-
The Quiet Man Music
and there is a CD available, but is is not the original sound track
However as it is by performed by the Dublin Screen Orchestra,
it is probably as good as it gets.
Music from The Quiet Man

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Young conducted excerpts from the score for a 10" LP issued at the time of the film's release, but this 1995 recording by the newly formed Dublin Screen Orchestra under the direction of Kenneth Alwyn is the "first complete recording," as a banner on the cover proclaims. Along with Young's music, it contains vocal performances of "The Isle of Innisfree," "The Wild Colonial Boy," and "Galway Bay," songs performed in the film. The result is a long-overdue treatment of one of Young's best scores. ~ William Ruhlmann

Also see:-
Composers Of The Saddle- Victor Young

Featured in the Kerry Film Festival

Dreaming the Quiet Man

There are cinematic milestones that have left a marked impression on the landscapes in which they were filmed. John Ford's take on his idealized vision of Ireland, 'The Quiet Man', is one such film. When it was released 'The Quiet Man' became a monster hit all across the world and won Oscars for Best Director and Best Cinematography. Its impact went way beyond the Irish Diaspora and it still resonates with international audiences almost 60 years later. This documentary delves into the psyche of John Ford and his twenty year struggle to bring his homage to his parent’s homeland to the screen. The film features contributions from commentators and film makers including Peter Bogdanovich, Martin Scorsese, Jim Sheridan and, exclusively, Maureen O' Hara

Further to the above translation,
Johanna added this:-

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At the opening of The Quiet Man Festival in Cong on Friday evening,
you'll be interested to know that Maureen O'Hara recounted this scene
we were discussing the(Irish dialogue in the film) word for word,
the scene where she has to tell the priest her husband slept
in a “mála codlata”, a sleeping bag, on the night of their wedding etc.
Amazing...she remembered every word of it!

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I was delighted to hear her speaking Irish & amazed
she remembered every word...talented lady!

Quote from Tbone

I was thinking about my favorite movie last night and wondering if anyone ever came up with a translation for the Gaelic dialogue in the movie.

I'm particularly interested in the conversation between Mary Kate and Fr. Lonergan.

Would any of our friends over in Ireland be able to translate it?

This question was asked sometime ago,
and to my knowledge never fully answered
Now with thanks to Johanna Ní Mháille
of Save The Quiet Man Cottage
We have a full translation:-

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Mary Kate Danaher: Father, could I... tell you in the Irish?
Father Lonergan: “Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.”
Father Peter Lonergan, Narrator: [distracted, fishing] Sea, sea.

Gaelic
Mary Kate Danaher: [very hesitantly] Níor lig mé m'fhear chéile isteach i mo leaba liom aréir. Chuir mé fuinneamh air a chodladh i - Ó, i mála codlata! Mála codlata!

English
Mary Kate: “I didn't allow my husband into bed with me last night...I forced him to sleep in - oh, in a bag for sleeping! a bag for sleeping.”

Gaelic
Father Peter Lonergan, Narrator: Céad é sin? "Bag?"

English
Father Lonergan: “Bag --? What’s that? ‘Bag?’”

Gaelic
Mary Kate Danaher: Sleeping bag, Father, with... with buttons! Más breá é, níor rith sé ar a shon. An peaca é?

English
Mary Kate: "Sleeping bag, Father, with… buttons! My dowry, he didn’t fight for it. Is it a sin?”

Father Peter Lonergan, Narrator: [exasperated]
Woman, Ireland may be a poor country, God help us.
But here, a married man sleeps in a bed, not a bag!]

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Apparently Johanna also read this

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If you want to talk to a priest, it is better to talk to him in Gaelic.
It's the only language that god can not understand.

For the new book

With kind permission of the photographer Patrick McCormick

The cover of book Patrick designed for Des MacHale...

For the benefit of some our European members,
who have mentioned it on the ESG

St.Patricks Day,
anyone watching this today?

Quote from lenrehn

Hi all
Here is litle news from Pat Cohan Bar
http://www.patcohan.com/
Len

Hi Len, Great post and information,
Thanks for your continued support of this dedicated thread.
I'm sure we would really appreciate, if you could also
post this and any other location information
on our
Duke's Movie Locations- Ireland
I would be most grateful for your input on that thread

I'll have to give Emmanuel a call,
and meet you all there for a pint.
Great news, and I'm sure ti will be great success.

Tbone,

Here's one post mentioning this:-

Quote from lenrehn

Here comes a short quote from CNN Larry King Live 2, an interview with Maureen O'Hara. Aired January 2, 2003 - 21:00 ET. That is not a really answer about what she was whispering to Wayne but that is maybe so close you may come.

KING: Tell me about these commentaries you've been doing for some DVD editions of films. They release a DVD and you appear on it to talk about it, John Wayne kind of movies?
O'HARA: Yes. There's one on "Rio Grande," which was the movie we did to raise the money to make "The Quiet Man," because we couldn't get finance. I think I have told you this before. And also on "The Quiet Man." So there's two DVDs out now. They're pretty good.
KING: I want to talk about John Wayne. We understand you're going to tell us something that you didn't tell us last time about what you whispered to him.
O'HARA: Oh, not on your life.
KING: You're not going to tell it now.
O'HARA: No. Never, never, never.
KING: Last scene of "The Quiet Man" Maureen's character whispers something in the ear of John Wayne's character. Whatever she said apparently shocked Wayne because his head jerked back and his eyes grows wide with disbelief. Wayne never told anyone what she said and John Ford the director never did either.
O'HARA: That was the deal. When John Ford said you are to say so and so To Wayne, I said, what? Me? No way. And he said, you're being ordered to do it. You do it. And I realized it was nothing I could do. When you try to battle with John Ford, you have to give in. And I said, well there's one stipulation. That you will never tell anybody what it is that you demanded that I say. And, John Wayne will never tell. And the three of us made the deal.
KING: So it was (UNINTELLIGIBLE) to what you are. One can imagine it was sexual or cursing or both?
O'HARA: Little bit of both.
KING: And Wayne did not know you were going to say it?
O'HARA: No. Didn't you see the look on his face when he turns around.
KING: That's one of the most famous endings of movies ever, right. So that must have been the question asked of you. That movie was such a big hit.
O'HARA: Everybody asks me. Even my lawyer in New York asked me the day before yesterday. I said I'm tired telling you, never. Duke is dead.
KING: Was it nervous for you to say it?
O'HARA: It was awful. I hated it.
KING: Did you only have to say it once?
O'HARA: Only once. Not twice. Well, you wouldn't get the reaction.

Len

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Hi Tbone,

I believe this has already been discussed in this thread.
We have a member called lenrehn,
whi is very knowledgable on all matters relating to this film.
If you care to check his posts, I think he's mentioned it.

Hi Emmanuel,

How you doing?

Here is our link to the dedicated thread.

Duke's Movie Locations- Ireland

I remember you going to that showing,
and what a great opportunity, to pick
up those lovely posters!