Posts from ethanedwards in thread „Hellfighters (1969)“

    Perhaps you should focus on the entire movie and the scenes that count, like the fire fighting ones instead of some silly background cars. As we know, all movies have mistakes in them. This happens to be a very highly regarded film. Guess the people who rate them were more interested in what the movie was about. HAH, when I posted that the info man must have really known what he was doing, I had forgotten it was Red Adair....THE expert and the movie was loosely based on his life. Way to go Peter. Will be a real shame if you finally get to watch it and don't like it, LOL! Keith


    I thought you also wanted folks to say negative things as well?? Perhaps not?
    The great things about this board is we all have an opinion and we allow members theirs.


    This movie I might add, is not that highly regarded by all.
    The action shots are great but the movie that surrounds them is just awful.
    It's badly acted and in my opinion, not one of the stars comes out with any credit.


    It is also the 'silly things' that diminish the real heroics,
    and the movie is dragged down as a result of them.
    How could they film live oil fires and surround them with 'cheap' scenes
    By the way I will focus on movies in anyway I chose!

    You are of course most welcome to your opinion Keither. Don't think you should phrase it in such a way as to try to make others look a little less intelligent than they are, LOL!
    Keith2


    Well the folks who made the movie, obviously didn't use much intelligence when they shot those joke scenes!!

    This was my original post on this film,
    and I haven't changed my view

    Yeah I have to doubt they'd go to the extreme of doing miniatures for the scene. Looked like a real office to me.


    When Duke is in his office, they have a backdrop of the window, and the highway beyond!! It is so dreadful, as a model treadmill, all the cars go past the window at the same speed! A red station waggon goes past the window, 15-17 times!!


    In the first post it clarifies this,
    that it was simple special effects!

    Hellfighters is a 1968 American film starring John Wayne
    and featuring Katharine Ross, Bruce Cabot,
    Jim Hutton, Jay C. Flippen and Vera Miles.
    The movie, directed by Andrew V. McLaglen,
    is about a group of oil well firefighters,
    based loosely on the life of Red Adair. Adair, "Boots" Hansen,
    and "Coots" Matthews, served as technical advisors on the film.


    Hellfighters was for the most part negatively received.


    Apart from the exciting footage of oil-well fires,
    I thought this film was utter tosh, and Duke was at his hammy worse.


    Everything seemed wrong to me, the overacting of Katherine Ross and Jim Hutton,
    right down to Bruce Cabot, trying to act asleep, by snoring stupidly.
    In The John Wayne Scrapbook, this film is quite correctly classed
    as a turkey, and it's not hard to see why!!


    It was like a re-incarnation of Tycoon
    an equally bad film.


    It should have been an exciting film, but the results were
    soon forgotten, Duke apparently, spending most of his time,
    off set, playing chess.
    Like me, the critics were not kind, perhaps you will be??


    Look out for a couple of Duke 'Pals'
    Pedro Gonzales-Gonzales as Hernando (houseboy) (uncredited)
    Chuck Roberson as a Firefighter in airplane (uncredited)



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    I love this movie!,
    18 June 2005
    Author: bkgmoonstar from United States


    My ex-husband was a huge John Wayne fan and had me watch every JW movie over and over. This was my favorite. The acting and script are not the point of watching this movie. The attitudes, clothes(especially the women's), and the sets are Soooo Sixties. My favorite thing is the "window" in the office. If you look closely you can see it isn't a window at all, it is a miniature of a highway(like a miniature railroad), but it is supposed to look like the view out the "window". I'm sure that was state-of-the-art in the late 60's. Katherine Ross is fabulous and wears the best clothes. Jim Hutton is quite handsome. John Wayne acts like....John Wayne. If you're a JW fan you'll recognize most of the cast. Great fun!!!!

    HELLFIGHTERS


    DIRECTED BY ANDREW V. McLAGLEN
    PRODUCED BY ROBERT ARTHUR
    MUSIC BY LEONARD ROSEMAN
    UNIVERSAL PICTURES


    Photo with the courtesy of lasbugas

    INFORMATION FROM IMDb


    Plot Summary
    The adventures of oil well fire specialist Chance Buckman (based on real-life Red Adair),
    who extinguishes massive fires in oil fields around the world.
    Summary written by Jim Beaver


    Full Cast
    John Wayne .... Chance Buckman
    Vera Miles .... Madelyn Buckman
    Katharine Ross .... Tish Buckman
    Jim Hutton .... Greg Parker
    Jay C. Flippen .... Jack Lomax
    Bruce Cabot .... Joe Horn
    Edward Faulkner .... George Harris
    Barbara Stuart .... Irene Foster
    Edmund Hashim .... Col. Valdez
    Valentin de Vargas .... Amal Bokru
    Frances Fong .... Madame Loo
    Alberto Morin .... General López
    Alan Caillou .... Harry York
    Laraine Stephens .... Helen Meadows
    John Alderson .... Jim Hatch
    Lal Chand Mehra .... Dr. Songla
    Rudy Diaz .... Zamora
    Chris Chandler .... Houston TV reporter
    William Hardy
    Howard Finch .... Ed 'Cal' Calhoun
    Richard 'Cactus' Pryor .... Chance's doctor (as Cactus Pryor)
    Big John Hamilton
    Bebe Louie .... Gumdrop
    Edward Colmans .... Senor Caldez (uncredited)
    Elizabeth Germaine .... (uncredited)
    Pedro Gonzales-Gonzales .... Hernando (houseboy) (uncredited)
    Chuck Roberson .... Firefighter in airplane (uncredited)
    John Stephenson .... Mr. Chapman (U.S. Embassy, Venezuela) (uncredited)


    Writing Credits
    Clair Huffaker


    Original Music
    Leonard Rosenman


    Cinematograpy
    William H. Clothier


    Stunts
    Hal Needham .... stunt coordinator
    Stan Barrett .... stunts (uncredited)
    Dick Bullock .... stunts (uncredited)
    Jim Burk .... stunts (uncredited)
    Roydon Clark .... stunts (uncredited)
    Gary Combs .... stunts (uncredited)
    Everett Creach .... stunts (uncredited)
    Alan Gibbs .... stunts (uncredited)
    Gary McLarty .... stunts (uncredited)
    Hal Needham .... stunts (uncredited)
    Chuck Roberson .... stunts (uncredited)
    Ronnie Rondell Jr. .... stunts (uncredited)
    Rock A. Walker .... stunts (uncredited)


    Other crew
    'Red' Adair .... technical advisor
    Robert Berry .... director of photography: second unit
    Robert Forrest .... dialogue coach
    Joseph Gershenson .... music supervisor
    'Boots' Hansen .... technical advisor
    'Coots' Matthews .... technical advisor


    Trivia
    The character of Chance Buckman is based on real-life oil well firefighter 'Red' Adair.


    When asked to comment on the film during production, actress Katharine Ross replied, "It's the biggest piece of crap I've ever done!" Then the reporter asked Vera Miles (who was playing Wayne's wife and Ross's mother in the film) to respond to Ross's comment. She thought for a moment and said, "Well, it's not the biggest piece of crap I'VE ever done!"


    A burning oil well prompted the owner, present-day billionaire Phillip Anschutz, to call Red Adair, a famous firefighter who later put out the oil well fires during the Gulf War, to put out the blaze. To pay Adair, Anschutz persuaded Universal Studios to pay him $100,000 to film Adair putting out his well fire for "Hellfighters."


    Katharine Ross and John Wayne had many arguments over his very vocal support for the Vietnam War.


    When Tish Buckman and Greg Parker look at the house they plan to move into after they wed, it's the same house used as the Douglas home in "My Three Sons" (1960). It was later used as one of the houses on "Wysteria Lane" in "Desperate Housewives" (2004).


    John Wayne, Bruce Cabot and Jim Hutton also all starred together in The Green Berets (1968)


    Last cinema feature of Jim Hutton.


    The cast list in the opening titles lists six actors not found in the
    closing credits, but not Louie, Bebe, who is found in the end list.


    Vera Miles (born August 1929), who portrayed Madelyn Buckman, was only 10 years older than Katharine Ross (born January 1940), who portrayed Tish Buckman, Madelyn's daughter.


    John Wayne, who turned 61 during filming, was generally considered too old for his character.


    John Wayne was still advertising cigarettes in this film, four years after losing a lung.


    When asked to comment on the film during production, actress Katharine Ross replied, "It's the biggest piece of crap I've ever done!" Then the reporter asked Vera Miles to respond to Ross's comment. She thought for a moment and said, "Well, it's not the biggest piece of crap I'VE ever done!"


    According to a magazine article each of the fires used an average of 500 gallons of a gasoline and oil mixture per minute. The largest fire used almost twice that.


    The studio designed special nozzles for the fires. There was an outer ring nozzle that shot out the flames and an inner one that shot out a mixture of water and India ink to simulate oil. This can be seen in how easily the "oil" is wiped off the actor's faces.


    A burning oil well prompted the owner, present-day billionaire Phillip Anschutz, to call Red Adair, a famous firefighter who later put out the oil well fires during the Gulf War, to put out the blaze. To pay Adair, Anschutz persuaded Universal Studios to pay him 100,000 dollars to film Adair putting out his well fire for "Hellfighters."


    The "oil" was a mixture of water and black ink. This was used since it was non-flammable, inexpensive, non-toxic and easier to clean up than real oil would have been.


    The Casper, Wyoming filming locale was the Snodgrass Ranch. Billy Snodgrass, an Iditarod competitor, said he was 10 years-old when the movie was filmed on his family ranch. The Duke enjoyed playing catch with Billy and friends during filming breaks.


    Although almost 30 years different in age, John Wayne and Jim Hutton tragically died of cancer only 9 days apart.


    Goofs
    Continuity
    When Tish first arrives at her father's apartment in Houston, she asks for a scotch rocks... but in numerous shots, there is never any ice in the glass.


    At beginning of the movie after helicopter lands, speed of rotor blades varies between shots.


    A rear view of the cockpit shows the doorway to be clear while a view from inside the cockpit shows a curtain over the doorway.


    When Tish Buckman is being picked up at the Jackson Hole airport, her porter picks up her three suitcases and skis. While walking to the plane, he has only the suitcases. When he reaches the plane, he has the skis again.


    Factual errors
    During the office scenes, looking through the office window, obvious toy cars were used to simulate the highway (that could be seen from outside when the helicopter first landed).


    Chance remarks about a "poison well" spewing "hydrogen sulfate." It is actually hydrogen sulfide which is most often found in oil well situations. Hydrogen sulfate describes the compound which is sulfuric acid and is generally not gaseous. Hydrogen sulfide is a gas and it is poisonous.


    Revealing mistakes
    During the office scenes, looking through the office window, obvious toy cars were used to simulate the highway (that could be seen from outside when the helicopter first landed).


    When the Hellfighters are fighting the first oil well fire, they explode nitro glycerine over the oil rig to extinguish the fire. After the explosion, the fire is still burning!


    The Australian driller takes off his mask a decent distance away from the poison well fire and dies nearly instantly. Yet Greg is right under the well and has a hole in his hose going directly into the closed environment of his mask and is only knocked out.


    Revealing mistakes
    In the last scene, after the 3 oil fires are blown out, Chance is holding the guide rope to the control head. In the background you can see that the pipe stem is split and separated. In the next shot, all 3 drill stems are intact with flanges, to secure the control head to.



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    Filming Locations
    Conroe, Texas, USA
    Baytown, Texas, USA
    (Goose Creek Oilfield)
    Casper, Wyoming, USA
    Gillette, Wyoming, USA
    Jackson Airport, Jackson Hole, Wyoming, USA
    Stage 32, Universal Studios - 100 Universal City Plaza, Universal City, California, USA
    William P. Hobby Airport - 7800 Airport Boulevard, Houston, Texas, USA