Interesting post, thanks
Posts from ethanedwards in thread „Angel And The Badman (1947)“
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I had thought there was a thread for the upcoming remake of Angel and the Badman, but I can't seem to find it. At any rate, I can across a web article saying that it a Hallmark Channel production, starring Lou Diamond Phillips in the Quirt Evans role, and it is supposed to air March 4th. As I don't have cable, satellite or even a TV antennae, I won't be watching it. But if anyone is interested, here is the link:
http://www.hallmarkchannelpres…ls.aspx?ID=166&PageID=116July 3rd, 2009
Pretty neat article from the Philadelphia Inquirer, Another Wayne defers to Duke, about Brendan Wayne. Among other things, the article gives a little peek into the life of John Wayne as a grandfather, something we rarely hear about.
The movie [remake of Angel and the Badman, with Brendan in the cast] is scheduled to premiere on the Hallmark Channel on Sunday, July 5. Sheer curiosity, along with the fact that Duke's grandson is in the movie, would possibly move me to watch it. This is one time I wish we had cable TV.
Chester
Bob,
Thanks for your post, so I carried out a search,
and it was discussed in this the original movie thread,
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One reason I like John Wayne so much is that he was terrific with the ladies. Maureen O'Hara most of all, but his other leading ladies too.
Like...Gail Russell in Angel and the Badman.
Paula thanks for your lovely photographs.
I have also posted them to the dedicated thread
Pals Of The Saddle- Gail Russell -
one of the most enjoyable romantic films i have seen - the chemistry between gail russel and john wayne is just brilliant
Sarah,
Here is our dedicated thread:
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Following on from the previous thread:-
QuoteWilliam T Brooks
post Mar 16 2004, 11:18 AM
Chester and Mrs.; I sent you a goodies box to the Box number you E-mailed me last week that has 4 Chilibill's Kitchen T.V. shows,
a copy of one of "The Gunfighters" show , a Chilibills Cook Book and 3 CDs and some other things that you said that you might want to see.
The post office said that you should have it by last Monday. In "Yellow Ribbon" I am one of the horse soldiers.
The best shot is at the end when they are lined up to send him on his way and give him a pocket watch.
I think that I am the third or forth soldier in the line of horse soldiers. Ford would always put the younger kids close to the camera
and the the older and fat guys in the back of the line. This was a much larger cast of players than "The Angel and The Badman".
This was the way Ford did his films. I think I was about 18 years old at this time. You ask about any of the other films that I worked in at this time ,
in "Broken Arrow" with Jimmy Stewart I got killed 7 times, so every time you see some one with a Arrow in him or falling off a rock dead thats Me.
If you you did a good fall you got $200 dollars for it,
so being a dumb kid I was first in line for that job! If I remember right the Pro. Stuntmen got $500 for a good fall so this saved them a little money.
If you do not get the box of goodies in the next day or two let me know and I will send you another.
I have not sold any of the books or tapes in over 15 years but I still have a few copys left and can cut more off of the masters. My Webpage ChilibillQuotechester7777
post Mar 16 2004, 02:35 PM
Chilibill,
Well, I must confess that I haven't been to the ol' PO box in about a week
(sometimes there's just not enough time - it's somewhat near my work but not near my home), so I'll be running right down there after work today. I guess I know what we will be watching tonight :D.
Thanks! I'll give you a call to let you know it's arrived.
ChesterQuotechester7777
post Mar 18 2004, 05:07 AM
There was a package indeed waiting at the Post Office! Thanks!
"The Gunfighters" was an interesting history of Ben Thompson. I'm assuming the other shows in the series tell about other gunfighters of the Old West.
The Chili Cook Book certainly has my wife's interest, as she is an avid (and good!)cook and also collects cook books.
We appreciate all the neat stuff, it will take us a few days to get through it all.
We'll be looking for you in She Wore A Yellow Ribbon.
ChesterQuoteWilliam T Brooks
post Mar 18 2004, 10:38 AM
Chester; The other Gunfighters are more well known, but Ben Thompson was the number One,
killing over 40 men! But the all time Gunfighter or Killer was "PORTER ROCKWELL" he was a L.D.S.
or Mormon enforcer that killed over 100 men. He Invented the first bullet proof vest. A plate of steel under his coat. So he Cheated.
He lived from 1813 to 1878 and died at 65. It took two years to do the series and a lot of research in the history books on these gunfighters of the old West.
They were nothing like our Hero the DUKE in "The Shootist"! Today we would call them Mass Killers! Chilibill :cowboy:
QuoteWilliam T Brooks
post Mar 19 2004, 07:11 PM
Those of you that liked "The Angel and the Badman" film that was shot in Sedona in about 1947,
I found some old pictures that were shot at the old movie set at Coffee Pot Rock and Bell Rock and was given to everyone that worked on the film by
"The Duke" to keep, as this was his first film as a Producer.
In the last picture, in the group of people looking at Laredo and his right hand man on the ground after "Marshal Wisful McClintock" shoots them,
If you look close you can see a skinny kid Third from the left that Me, I was about 16 or 17 years old! Go to My Webpage ChilibillQuotechester7777
post Mar 20 2004, 05:13 AM
QUOTE(William T Brooks @ Mar 19 2004, 11:11 AM)
If you look close you can see a skinny kid Third from the left that's Me
Bill,
Are you the kind of short guy in light colored clothing and white hat, or are you in darker clothing?
When the telegraph guy comes into the bar before JW meets Laredo Stevens for the last time outside,
do you remember where you are? Actually sitting at the bar? Or at one of the tables on the left side (that's left as we're looking at the scene )?
ChesterQuoteWilliam T Brooks
post Mar 21 2004, 11:10 AM
Chester; The one in the dark clothing. The telegraph man is on the right and just to the left of the man in the lite colored coat with his back to the Duke.
The one closest to the front door of the bar and the heads for the back door after Laredo's man spots a tall man in a black hat at the end of the street.
One of the two men that runs across the road infront of the Duke as every one trys to get out of town and he walks down the road to meet Laredo.
In a low cost film with a small cast of players you play many parts. My Webpage Chilibill -
Hi,
I have been researching all the threads, back to the start of the JWMB,
looking for previous discussion, relating to this movie.
I have found the following, comments, and have copied them here,
so that they are now under one forum:-The Angel And The Badman, White Hat and Black Hat
QuoteWilliam T Brooks
post Mar 12 2004, 03:48 PMAfter you people got me all charged up on the Duke again I got a new copy of "The Angel and the Badman", and after looking at it a few time I saw that "The Duke" as [Quirt Evans] had a White or Light colored Hat on ,then as the film goes on and he "The Duke" goes after Laredo Stevens [Bruce Cabot] suddenly he is using a Black Hat when he is going to be a bad guy again. Then to a White hat as a good guy again. Then back to the black hat at the end of the film to go after Laredo again. I think this was a left over from the old B-Westerns, Good Guy, Bad Guy! At the first part of the film he I using a 5 and 1/2" barreled Colt Pistol and is in Monument Valley with many people after him, and I am one of them. In the next scene he is at Bell Rock in Sedona 175 miles from Monument Valley as the Bird Flys with a run out horse and a Colt pistol with a 4 and 3/4 " barrel ? I know a little about this film as I had a few small non-speaking parts in it back in the late 1940s but I had never seen this before. Good film and love story! I think this was the first film produced by "THE DUKE". Chilibill
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post Mar 13 2004, 06:13 AMQUOTE(William T Brooks @ Mar 12 2004, 07:48 AM)
In the next scene he is at Bell Rock in Sedona 175 miles from Monument Valley as the bird flies, with a run out horse . . . .
I guess a horse would be "run out" after 175 miles!
Speaking of Angel and the Badman, I had my copy out recently and was wondering if we can see you in different parts of the movie? Can you tell us how to spot you? Since you had mentioned in one of your earlier posts that you were in the bar, near the end of the movie, we went through that scene in slow motion (frame by frame) looking for anyone young enough to have been you. There was one guy, at one of the tables on the left, and another at the far end of the bar who looked pretty young. If you feel that you are visible enough, let us know where to watch for you.Chester
QuoteWilliam T Brooks
post Mar 13 2004, 10:26 AMChester; At the first of the film at Monument Valley as one of the men on horse back after Quirt Evans.
One of the men on horse back with Laredo Stevens with the cattle herd.
One of Quaker men with a fake beard at the Sunday get together when they give the Bible to Quirt Evans.
One of young bad guys at the bar at the end of the film.
One of the men that come out of the bar to look at Laredo and his right hand man on the ground after Marshal Wisful McClintock [Harry Carey] shoots them.
ChilibillQuoteitdo
post Mar 13 2004, 03:03 PMThat's great, Chilibill!
I'll watch out for you the next time I see ANGEL. I have a real old release copy on 35mm, but in good condition though, which I really am proud of (these things are hard to get!), so I can't freeze-frame, but I'll definitely have a big clear picture of you! A little late, 60 years after, but CONGRATULATIONS of helping make that film!
Can you tell us more how the title sequence came about, shot in Monument Valley? Did they just put all the extras they hired in Sedona and drove them out to the Monument? How was the catering? Was Wayne present for the title sequence (he's seen mostly in long shots) or did the use a double?
Done only a year after Ford's MY DARLING CLEMENTINE, did you have a chance to see the complete set of the town Tombstone which Ford presented to the reservation (I think they erased that only a couple of years later - for firewood!)
Since this was Wayne's first shot at producing, I also wonder if the employees got good treatment - got wages, good food? Were the extras housed in tents? Any memories you could share about that?
Lots of question, I know - I'll certainly appreciate the answers!
Your many parts in this film goes to show how they used the extras in multiple scenes. I once was an extra in a Jane Birkin thriller, was there just for one day and they put me in three different roles! So if you see the finished sequence and if you watch the background, you'll see the same guy pass along in different costumes three times. Come to think of it, if you concentrate on the background you'll just see the same happening in many movies. But then, who cares about the background after all?Quotearthurarnell
post Mar 13 2004, 05:46 PMHi Chillibilly
As you know I am collating a list of everyone who played in a John Wayne movie if you e mail your details to me with a short pen picture I'll include it.Regards
ArthurQuoteWilliam T Brooks
post Mar 13 2004, 08:08 PMItdo ; Remember this was over 55 years ago , but here I go! If you have a 35mm copy of this film hang on to it ,
it is worth money! If I remember right, that is what the film was shot on.
The main players were put up at the Sedona Lodge on Oak Creek in what is now down town Sedona.
It was a group of log buildings that are now gone. After the three of us got hired on we were told to drive to Monument Valley .
All three of us had been brought up on ranches so we were good on horse back.
he Duke was in the close up shots and Yakima Canutt did the long shots.
Yakima was also the second unit Director. I did not see the old set at M.V., but the crew was put up at were the old Goulding Lodge is now.
When we got back to Sedona they were already shooting the main part of the film. The extras were put up in a old log building like a barrack
building at the Sedona lodge, that also had a large Mess hall to eat at. On location they had a food truck for lunch.
All the extras were treated very well and we got paid $20.00 a day, big money for kids in those days.
The Main Players were very nice to us kids after all this is how they got started.
For the next two years in the Summer months I worked in many films at Sedona , Monument Valley and Durango.
Some of them were not very good films. Some of better ones were "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon" with the Duke, "Broken Arrow" with Jimmy Stewart
and "Drum Beat" with Allan Ladd. Some of the scenes in "Drum Beat" mostly the Indian attacks were taken from "Broken Arrow"
that was done about two years before. They had the same Director Delmer Daves. This was a great time for a young kid.
Little did I know that some 35 years later it would set me up to Produce and to be the Director of a T.V.
Series of 7 one hour shows for Bill Hearst jr. and Hearst A.B.C. called "The Gunfighters".
But to save money on Stunt Men, every time you see someone get killed and take a fall that was "Gabby Hayes jr." or "Me" !! ChilibillQuotechester7777
post Mar 16 2004, 07:06 AMChilibill,
Do you have copies of the movies you were an extra in? Are you able to be seen in She Wore A Yellow Ribbon?
Or any of the other movies, for that matter? Do you have videos of the TV show you did for the Hearsts? Are they available for sale anywhere?
I am just full of questions this evening !Chester and the Mrs.
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Angel and the Badman is a 1947 American Western film written and directed by James Edward Grant
and starring John Wayne, Gail Russell, Harry Carey and Bruce Cabot.
The film is about an injured gunfighter who is nursed back to health by a Quaker girl
and her family whose way of life influences him and his violent ways
Angel and the Badman was the first film Wayne produced as well as starred in,
and was a departure for this genre at the time it was released.Writer-director James Edward Grant was Wayne's frequent screenwriting collaborator.
In 1975, the film entered the public domain in the USA due to the copyright claimants
failure to renew the copyright registration in the 28th year after publication.Republic were in fear of losing their top box office draw,
and were slowly giving Duke more freedom, to produce his own movies.
Duke chose this one a modest western, for his first John Wayne production.
Duke selected his favourite screenwriter James Edward Grant, to write and direct, the picture..
He also borrowed dark-haired Gail Russell from Paramount , to play his
leading lady.
Duke acquitted himself well, and the chemistry between him and Gail,
was obvious, on and off screen, although he denied anything was going on!
Harry Carey, and Bruce Cabot, were both strong in their roles.The film proved a leisurely western, without much action, concerning itself more with romance,
and pacifism, than bad men and gunplay.
Whilst critics liked it, Duke's fans, found the movie too slow.The film. although shot in MV in black and white,
wasn't as good as a John Ford film.
Unfortunately, it had a lot of similarities,
to his Monogram Films, which is hardly surprising, as
Duke used the same cinematographer, Archie Stout!
Although the reviews were mixed, and it was not a great box office success,
Duke was satisfied with the results.User Review
QuoteVery highly recommended
19 September 2003 | by zetes (Saint Paul, MN)Fun movie about a cowboy named Quirt (John Wayne) who is wants to reform his ways after he meets a sweet Quaker girl. When he is shot, the Quaker family takes care of him, and after he wakes up the daughter (Gail Russell) falls in love with him. It's goofy and cliché, sure, but there's a really fine movie to be found in the familiar setup. Writer/director Grant create many good vignettes. There are several wonderful supporting characters who add a lot of worth to the proceedings, including Harry Carey as a marshall, Lee Dixon as one of Quirt's friends and old partners in crime, Tom Powers as the local, scientific, atheist doctor, and Olin Howlin as the town telegrapher. Howlin's character is pure comic relief, very humorously claiming a long friendship with Quirt, though he only saw him once when he was almost unconscious. Then Carey's character is wryly comedic: as the marshall, he's constantly stalking Quirt. He's sure that someday he'll get to hang the guy, and he harps on it constantly. The chemistry between Wayne and Russell adds an unexpected poignancy to the film. The scene where the two pick blackberries is simply beautiful, and their wordless climactic exchange is perfectly performed. Good action sequences, as well. 9/10.
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ANGEL AND THE BADMANWRITTEN AND DIRECTED BY JAMES EDWARD GRANT
PRODUCED BY JOHN WAYNE
MUSIC BY RICHARD HAGEMAN
JOHN WAYNE PRODUCTIONS
REPUBLIC PICTURESINFORMATION FROM IMDb
Plot Summary
Quirt Evens an all round bad guy is nursed back to health and sought after by
Penelope Worth a quaker girl.
He eventually finds himself having to choose from his world or the world
from which Penelope lives by.
Summary written by Christopher D. RyanFull Cast
John Wayne .... Quirt Evans
Gail Russell .... Penelope Worth
Harry Carey .... Territorial Marshal Wistful McClintock
Bruce Cabot .... Laredo Stevens
Irene Rich .... Mrs. Worth
Lee Dixon .... Randy McCall (Quirt's partner)
Stephen Grant .... Johnny Worth
Tom Powers .... Dr. Mangram
Paul Hurst .... Frederick Carson (Worth's neighbor)
Olin Howland .... Bradley (town telegrapher) (as Olin Howlin)
John Halloran .... Thomas Worth
Joan Barton .... Lila Neal (saloon singer ['The Western Nightingale'] in Red Rock)
Craig Woods .... Ward Withers
Marshall Reed .... Nelson (Quaker horseshoer)
Doc Adams .... Quaker (uncredited)
Rosemary Bertrand .... Christine Taylor (uncredited)
Symona Boniface .... Dance Hall Madam (uncredited)
Bob Burns .... Quaker Meeting member (uncredited)
Wade Crosby .... Baker brother #2 (uncredited)
Steve Darrell .... Gambler (uncredited)
Kenne Duncan .... Gambler (uncredited)
Geraldine Farnum .... Saloon girl (uncredited)
Louis Faust .... Hondo Jeffries, Bad guy who in chase gets knocked off horse by tree branch (uncredited)
Paul Fix .... Mouse Marr (uncredited)
Pat Flaherty .... Baker brother (uncredited)
Lew Harvey .... Gambler (uncredited)
Jack Kirk .... Carson Ranchhand (uncredited)
Rex Lease .... Roulette croupier (uncredited)
Cactus Mack .... Quaker (uncredited)
LeRoy Mason .... Lefty Wilson (uncredited)
Jack Montgomery .... Carson Ranchhand (uncredited)
Bert Moorhouse .... Gambler (uncredited)
Al Murphy .... Bartender (uncredited)
William Newell .... Headwaiter (uncredited)
Jack O'Shea .... Barfly (uncredited)
Eddie Parker .... Baker Brother (uncredited)
Stanley Price .... Gambler (uncredited)
John Shay .... Gambler (uncredited)
Jack Stoney .... Baker Brother (uncredited)
Ken Terrell .... Brawl spectator (uncredited)
Tony Travers .... Hernan (uncredited)
Crane Whitley .... Bit Role (uncredited)
Norman Willis .... Gambler (uncredited) (as Jack Norman)
Hank Worden .... Townsman (uncredited)Writing Credits
James Edward GrantOriginal Music
Richard HagemanCinematography
Archie StoutSecond Unit Director or Assistant Director
Yakima Canutt .... second unit director
Harvey Dwight .... assistant director (uncredited)Stunts
Richard Farnsworth .... stunts (uncredited)
Fred Graham .... stunt double: John Wayne (uncredited)
John Hudkins .... stunts (uncredited)
Ben Johnson .... stunt double (uncredited)
Chuck Roberson .... stunts (uncredited)
Jack Stoney .... stunts (uncredited)
Ken Terrell .... stunts (uncredited)
Henry Wills .... stunts (uncredited)Trivia
The first film produced by John Wayne.Quirt Evans is treated with laudanum while recovering at the Worth house from his injuries. He is treated with laudanum again in The Shootist (1976) as J.B. Books to reduce his pain from the effects of cancer.
The passage Randy reads from Quirt's Bible is from either 2 Samuel 23:20-1 or 1 Chronicles 11:22-3.
John Wayne would later star in two films where his eponymous character carried the name of characters from this movie: Hondo (1953) and McLintock! (1963).
"The Hedda Hopper Show - This Is Hollywood" broadcast a 30 minute radio adaptation of the movie on April 5, 1947 with John Wayne reprising his film role.
Goofs
* Anachronisms: The doctor at one point mentions "living in a never never land," an obvious reference to Peter Pan. However, the play did not see its first performance in London until 1904, and the novel was not published until 1911. There is no way anyone living on the 19th-century American frontier could know of Peter Pan's home.* Revealing mistakes: In the next to the last scene in the movie where the Marshal (Harry Carey) shoots Hondo and Lardo, he kills them with two rapid shots before they can shoot. In the reverse it shows the Marshal cooling his lever action rifle. It would be impossible to fire two shots so rapidly if you had to lever the rifle between shots.
* Continuity: When Quirt pushes between the men at the bar, the bartender pours him a drink and then leaves. The owner then arrives asking for some calm. As Quirt leaves the bar, the bar owner can be heard from behind the Baker brothers still imploring them not to fight, but it is the bartender who can be seen.
* Continuity: A dance hall girl pushes a spectator down onto a gambling table which collapses under him, with the only damage being to the legs of the table. In the next shot, the table is still collapsed but there is a large section of the edge broken off.
* Continuity: When walking down the street for the final showdown, the sun starts off to Quirt's right casting shadows to the left of screen, then a close shot shows shadows which could only come from a near-overhead sun, and then at the saloon the sun is coming from Quirt's left casting shadows to the right.
* Continuity: When Quirt arrives at the saloon, its entrance is in shadow. When Hondo and Laredo come out, they are in full sun.
* Revealing mistakes: The small bag of gold double eagles is thrown to Quirt at the beginning. Gold at the time was $20 a troy ounce and would have consisted of 250 coins. At 14 ounces to the pound, it would have weighed 187.5 pounds, not the mere few pounds the few silver dollars it likely contained.
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