Wasn't there 2 white horses in the 30's movies I know one was Duke the wonder horse, it seemd like one had a shorter tail then the other. I'm not sure.
Howdy Brick,
The other white horse was named Starlight. And by the by, since I started this thread, I have found out that the horse in Lady Takes A Chance, that I was calling Sammy, was actually named Missed-A-Shot, or Misty, for short.
Best to all,
Colorado Bob
QuoteOriginally posted by etsija@Jul 31 2006, 06:26 AM
I've had time to watch carefully only Rooster, Rio Lobo and Cowboys halfway so far, but I'm going to the bottom of this... If those paintings Chilibill posted are any proof, Dollor is the horse with 3 white legs and a blaze. That's the one in Rio Lobo (as long as Duke is in the army, in civilian he has a black star-head), but in Rooster and Cowboys he has a light sorrel with a stripe, white on muzzle and white hind legs - not Dollor. This horse also holds its head in a different way, bending on the neck, while Dollor has a habbit of throwing its head up.
In the scene where mr Anderson ropes a calf in Cowboys, there's a third similar looking sorrel: white hind legs, but a larger blaze - the horse changes when the actual roping begins, apparently the star horse is not a cow-horse.
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Thanks etsija,
I'm still looking at these DVD's, so I can compare the different horses, but it looks like you are right. When I get a more definitive list, I'll post it, hopefully with some pictures. I wish I could talk to someone who knew John Wayne and knew the horese he rode as well. I'll keep looking and thanks for setting me straight on the horese in Rooster, Rio Lobo, and Cowboys.
Best,
Colorado Bob
Howdy All,
I did a little more research, and what I'v ecome up with is this. John Wayne rode Sammy in Lady Takes a Chance. he also rode Sammy in The Conqueror, as his first horse. He later switched to Steel. John Wayne rode Steel in Tall in the Saddle also. Steel has a large white blaze and three white stockings. Sammy has a small white star right between his eyes. I could be wrong on this. Please feel free to correct me if I am. I am going to try and add a comparison photo of the two horses from these three films, and I'll keep y'all updated as I continue looking at John Wayne's horses.
Best to all,
Colorado Bob
QuoteDisplay MoreOriginally posted by William T Brooks@Jul 28 2006, 11:59 AM
Bob;
You did a great job of Nailing down all of Duke's Horses from The Old Days.
Vera I think you are right about Fort Apache and Rio Grande. It is hard to remember after all these years.
It has been over 50 Years ago when Duke made these Films. I put up one more page on Duke's Horses on the Site Below. Let me know if some of them are not right.
Chilibill
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Thanks Bill.
You've saved me some research! I have to play the DVD's on my computer, take a screen capture of the horse, save it to my computer, then bring it up in another program and compare the photo to a known photo of the horse I am researching, comparing color, markings and size (if I can, based on people or other things near the horse). It is time consuming, but you've just saved me about a half hour.
I think Vera is right about Banner in Fort Apache and Rio Grande, so I will add those two to my "Banner" list.
ejgreen77, I am still not sure about "Sammy" being "Steel." I have read that Duke only rode Steel in two films, "The Conqueror" and "Tall in the Saddle," but that could be wrong. One thing I have noticed in researching John Wayne, is that some folks simply rely on research that others have done, without checking it out first. This often allows mistakes to creep in and be listed as fact. I think I'll make Lady Takes a Chance my next project and see just who "Sammy" is, if I can.
I'll keep y'all updated.
Best to all,
Colorado Bob
Howdy All,
Well so far, what I have come up with regarding the horses John Wayne rode is this:
He rode Duke the Miracle Horse (real name Sheik) in:
Haunted Gold
The Telegraph Trail
Somewhere in Sonora
The Man from Monterey
The Big Stampede
Ride Him Cowboy
He rode Starlight in:
Pals of the Saddle
Overland Stage Raiders
Sante Fe Stampede
Red River Range
The Night Riders
Three Texas Steers
Wyoming Outlaw
Riders of Destiny
Westward Ho (possibly)
The Sagebrush Trail (possibly)
He rode Banner in:
Angel and the Badman
Hondo
She Wore A Yellow Ribbon
Three Godfathers
He rode Sammy in:
A Lady Takes A Chance (although this may be Banner)
He rode Steel in:
The Conqueror
Tall in the Saddle
He Rode Alamo (owned by John Wayne) in:
The Alamo
McLintock!
He rode Beau (owned by John Wayne) in:
True Grit
The War Wagon (possibly)
The Comancheros (possibly)
The Sons of Katie Elder (possibly)
He rode Zip Cochise (owned by Howard Hawks) in:
El Dorado
He rode Dollor in:
True Grit (his first film with John Wayne. He was 2 years old)
Big Jake
The Cowboys
The Train Robbers
Rooster Cogburn
The Shootist (possibly)
I'm still looking and researching. Watching movies and comparing known photos with the films. I don't why this thing has stuck in my craw the way it has, but I'm having fun doing it! Hope I'm not boring y'all with my prattlin' on, but thought I'd share what I've learned. Once this thing has run its course, if I come up with any more info, I'll let ya know. And by the way, thanks to Bill and ejgreen77 and etsija and ethan for helping me out with this.
Best to all,
Colorado Bob
QuoteOriginally posted by Tbone@Jul 26 2006, 09:45 AM
I wonder if Dollor is still alive? He'd be almost 40! :o[snapback]33185[/snapback]
It seems to me that I read somewhere a while back that Ol' Dollor passed away. Thanks to everyone for helping me out. The subject came up between myself and another John Wayne fan one day while we were at work, and we were trying to come up with the names of the different horses Duke rode and in what films. The topic kinda stuck in my head, so I've been researching it. Since I know the best John Wayne authorities and experts are right here at the JWMB, I kinda figgered I'd start my research right here. I knew y'all wouldn't let me down, and ya didn't. If I come with anything else, I'll let y'all know.
Thanks again,
Colorado Bob
I'm pretty sure this question has already been asked, but in going through the past posts, I can't seem to find the thread. Does anyone know the names of the horses that John Wayne rode in his films, and what horses in what films?
Thanks for the help,
Best,
Colorado Bob
QuoteOriginally posted by kilo 6@Sep 7 2005, 10:12 PM
Hello All
I would appreciate some elaboration on the statement Quirt makes about JW not loving horses. Can anyone can point me at a reference to JW and his feeling about horses.[snapback]21282[/snapback]
Howdy Kilo,
There have been several books out about John Wayne that make some sort of mention that he either disliked or hated horses, or at least riding them. I think the most blatant mention is in Garry Wills book John Wayne: The Politics of America. In it he flat out states that Duke hated horses. Personally I hated this book and felt that Wills disliked Wayne and took every opportunity to belittle or discount him in his book. However, you have to remember that Duke grew up riding a horse to school every day when he first moved to California, and he rode well. There are several other times that he mentioned riding a horse, such as when he told about herding cattle on horseback to bring the cattle into Monument Valley in 1930 for the film Lone Star Ranger. He also rode horses with Ward Bond when they went hunting.
I don't think he hated horses per se, but I don't think they were his favorite form of transportation. He raised horses on one of his ranches, he was a good horseman and he sat a horse well, but as Duke himself once said, "When I get on a horse, I get paid a lot of money."
Colorado Bob
