Posts from etsija in thread „Duke's Movie Horses“

    Finally something that makes sense in this Dollor thing. Yes, the horse with a large blaze is in True grit and is called Bo in the film. I just wonder those paintings, they portray Bo then, is it there where this legend about big-blazed Dollor started? And, Vera, I'm sure you're right, it's the same blaze-head, now Bo, under Douglas in War wagon. However, Deb's statement is still not the final truth:


    1) It's still Bo (the large blaze) in Chisum, as it is in Undefeated and Rio Lobo. In Big Jake we see Dollor (stripe and white muzzle) for the first time and it stays with Duke ever since


    2) What about this legend about 2-year old Dollor in True grit then? - The horse in the final scene, behind the talking Rooster and Mattie is neither Dollor or Bo - this horse has a star with a stripe, not white muzzle, but a small pinkish spot under it and two white socks, not stockings in the hind legs (although this is hard to see, the whole horse is not properly shown). When preparing to the jump, it is Bo again, and which horse is actually jumping, cannot be told

    In Cowboys, Anderson (Duke) rides a second horse, a buckskin, on the cattle trail. During the start credits, in the small backside pictures there is probably the same horse than in the calf roping scene.


    In Cahill Duke has again the same stripe head sorrel than in Cowboys and Rooster

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    Originally posted by erthomp143@Jul 31 2006, 04:36 PM
    Not to throw a wrench into the works, but don't forget about makeup. Any changes we see could just be makeup continuity error.


    I'm not forgetting that movies are illusion, that's why I'm doubting myself when I hear things like "Duke never mounted another horse after Dollor". And I'm waiting to hear a second opinion that's based on careful watching or first-hand knowledge. Still, I don't believe these horses are madeup. Why would they be?


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    Originally posted by erthomp143@Jul 31 2006, 04:36 PM
    Didn't they dye the dog in Hondo or Big Jake?


    In Big Jake the dog keeps changing colour. I believe it's a collie painted black (most of the time) so that it looks like Belgian shepherd (groenendahl). May be because they didn't want it to look like Lassie?


    I've had time to watch carefully only Rooster, Rio Lobo and Cowboys halfway so far, but I'm going to the bottom of this... If those paintings Chilibill posted are any proof, Dollor is the horse with 3 white legs and a blaze. That's the one in Rio Lobo (as long as Duke is in the army, in civilian he has a black star-head), but in Rooster and Cowboys he has a light sorrel with a stripe, white on muzzle and white hind legs - not Dollor. This horse also holds its head in a different way, bending on the neck, while Dollor has a habbit of throwing its head up.
    In the scene where mr Anderson ropes a calf in Cowboys, there's a third similar looking sorrel: white hind legs, but a larger blaze - the horse changes when the actual roping begins, apparently the star horse is not a cow-horse.
    The filly the boys help to break has a name in the movie, Crazy Alice.

    Thanks for the links, ejgreen, very interesting reading, especially Quirt's posts.


    Everybody says that Dollor is in all the films after True grit, except for the mule in Cahill. I watched bits of them yesterday, and it is definitely Dollor in the Undefeated, Chisum and Rio Lobo - large blaze, almost bald face, white under the muzzle too, and three white legs, left front sorrel. Very long legs.
    The horse in Big Jake and after looks different: narrower blaze, only two socks, in the hind legs and not so long legs. Ok, it may be have become sturdier when older and so the legs seem relatively shorter, but what about the markings? Is it masked in the same way in all the later films?

    This has been up, but I can't find the discussion either, so, the two most famous ones are Duke and Dollor. Duke is the pure white in some 30's westerns - it had some other name earlier but was renamed after its rider. Dollor is seen for the first time in the final scene of the True grit, the "another tall horse" Rooster had bought. And in several films after that.
    Here's Suburban Chicago a small article about Dollor