Posts from Hawkswill in thread „Wagon Train (1957-1965)“

  • Wagon Train (1957-1965)

    OK, got it figured out, thanks to you, Keith. Whoever posted those two had them a bit mixed up, I believe. Anyway, I FOUND the fight scene where the Major after being pushed too far, almost killed the guy. Ward did all of the fight except for the long distance where it is clearly Terry Wilson.....shoot, he picked that BIG guy up like he was a puppet....strong man, Terry Wilson. Then, Terry stopped him and ended up having to shoot the man. That is in the top one you fixed and should be in Part 2. Fight starts about 25 minutes into it. The bottom movie at minute 10 shows Rainey getting off the stage and Seth arranging to take her on the train.


    If you look at The Beth Pearson Story around 13 minutes, you will hear Ward
    in the hospital bed talking to Bill and Wooster. Around 13:24 you will hear a completely different voice narrating the story. It says Rainey had been living in Arizona with her sister and brother in law for two years. She heard of the WT passing by and sent a message for Seth to come, (not at ALL what the Major Adams Part 2 says). Ward's voice returns as he holds her as she dies and he cries as he tells her about the life they will have in CA. Didn't watch the rest this time, but I believe the voice comes in again when they are walking in the woods and perhaps another place or two. So, we can figure Ward completed all episodes with enough of him already in it except for the Beth Pearson story. Each year, he stops the Train and rides off to sit at her grave, remember, and talk to her. No one but Bill and Wooster knows where he goes....not even Flint.


    So, don't imagine yall care about being clear on all of this.....but at least I am, and I am the one who needs to be, LOL. Thanks a lot for fixing the UTube links Keith. Strange, I have been doing them here and other places just fine....wonder what went wrong?
    Have a good one Keith, Keith

  • Wagon Train (1957-1965)

    Thanks Keith, but wish you could have fixed the video....thought I did it as I had learned. Anyway, I appreciated all your info on Ward, as you probably know he is my favorite. All I was trying to get across was that there was a man, NOT Ward, but supposed to be him, who did the narration in the Beth Pearson Story. Apparently all the action had been shot, because I didn't see anything that might have been missing.....Ward just hadn't done the narration part before he died. The second I heard his voice, I knew it was not Ward. And just wanted to show that Ward would never have gotten the story mixed up about Rainey.....shoot, never remember how to spell her name. And Frank and Bill would have realized it right away. The narration must have been supervised and written by a different producer and writer, (I believe they had quite a few, not sure). Guess it all got carried away, somehow, sorry if I caused any problems...it was not my intent. When I get some spare money, I will get The Weight of Command which was an excellent episode, Stagecoach Story, and The Jonas Murdock Story which all show well the talents of Terry Wilson, Frank McGrath, and of course, Ward Bond. Netflix really messed me up when they took all the old Westerns off. IMDB only shows a few things for free....none that I need, but thanks anyway. Keith

  • Wagon Train (1957-1965)

    This was posted with a quote from Ethan about the Beth Pearson Story. Anyway, it is not about COLTER CRAVEN but about The Major Adams Story part 2 and the Beth Pearson Story. Don't know if it will show up or not? Here is the video where, at about the 10 minute mark you will see Major Adams take Raine off the Stage so as to take her to her sister's on the Train. OK, the video, for some reason didn't show up, but it is the second one one You Tube that Says Major Adams Story 1 and 2. Keith, If I were Wagon Train and made a mistake that big, I wouldn't print it either! Print the legend, right? LOL.





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    As usual, the internet has a few things confused. When Major Adams and the boys see Beth Pearson, that prompts Seth to "narrate" the story of his being in the hospital after the war, going to find his LOVE Raine Webster, and finding that she had married. When Bill and Charlie come to visit him in the hospital bed and they get him up to start his "physical therapy" for his legs, he begins to narrate. It is not Ward Bond's voice. Don't believe anyone could ever impersonate the resonance he achieved later in his career. Anyway, he says that Raine had gone to live with her sister and brother in law before and that she sent for him when finding the train was coming through near them. There was a whole episode, The Major Adams Story Part 2, I believe, that is devoted to Seth's taking Raine on the Train to her sister's. She was very ill, but Bill and his wife were sworn to secrecy not to tell the Major. Her brother in law picked her up after she had declined Seth's marriage proposal, not telling him why.
    Not long after, he came back to get Seth. Raine died in Seth's arms while he told her of the life they would have in CA. But, she was on the Wagon Train going out there. In fact, there was a fight scene between him and Major Hilary who was after Raine's attentions. It was a great fight, but, if I remember right, the Major would have killed him if Bill had not stopped him.....need to watch that one again also. If Ward had been alive when the Pearson Story was finished, he never would have told the story completely wrong. I am surprised that Terry and Frank allowed it. As it was told off set, they probably didn't even know until it was aired.....then, it was too late to set things straight.
    Below is a video, not in the proper order and does not show the fight scene I need, but it shows the Major finding Raine again and taking her on the train. They got to spend much time together before she left and then died. The scene of their meeting in around the 10 minute part of this video.
    The Ward Bond episodes of Wagon Train are my thing.


    This was posted with a quote from Ethan about the Beth Pearson Story. Anyway, it is not about COLTER CRAVEN but about The Major Adams Story part 2.


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    Well, thought I had this thing down, Anyway, if you watch the Part 2 of Major Adams, you will see what I am talking about.

  • Wagon Train (1957-1965)

    As usual, the internet has a few things confused. When Major Adams and the boys see Beth Pearson, that prompts Seth to "narrate" the story of his being in the hospital after the war, going to find his LOVE Raine Webster, and finding that she had married. When Bill and Charlie come to visit him in the hospital bed and they get him up to start his "physical therapy" for his legs, he begins to narrate. It is not Ward Bond's voice. Don't believe anyone could ever impersonate the resonance he achieved later in his career. Anyway, he says that Raine had gone to live with her sister and brother in law before and that she sent for him when finding the train was coming through near them. There was a whole episode, The Major Adams Story Part 2, I believe, that is devoted to Seth's taking Raine on the Train to her sister's. She was very ill, but Bill and his wife were sworn to secrecy not to tell the Major. Her brother in law picked her up after she had declined Seth's marriage proposal, not telling him why.
    Not long after, he came back to get Seth. Raine died in Seth's arms while he told her of the life they would have in CA. But, she was on the Wagon Train going out there. In fact, there was a fight scene between him and Major Hilary who was after Raine's attentions. It was a great fight, but, if I remember right, the Major would have killed him if Bill had not stopped him.....need to watch that one again also. If Ward had been alive when the Pearson Story was finished, he never would have told the story completely wrong. I am surprised that Terry and Frank allowed it. As it was told off set, they probably didn't even know until it was aired.....then, it was too late to set things straight.
    Below is a video, not in the proper order and does not show the fight scene I need, but it shows the Major finding Raine again and taking her on the train. They got to spend much time together before she left and then died. The scene of their meeting in around the 10 minute part of this video.
    The Ward Bond episodes of Wagon Train are my thing.