Posts from Colorado Bob in thread „Gran Torino“

    I still have not seen it but will buy the DvD as soon as I see it hit shelves here.

    Colorado Bob-you and I share something. I too spent some time as a C.O for the State of Texas. I KNOW exactly where you come from and my opinions are exactly the same as yours-where criminals are concerned. My career wasn't as long as yours-I got tired of it all-both inmates and bad supervisors I like to call: "Stuporvisors."


    Howdy Carl,
    Yeah, I know what you mean. A lot of the folks I worked with seemed to share the same opinion, that the higher you go in the DOC, the more you know about less and less, until you reach the highest rank and you wind up knowing absolutely nothing about everything. My biggest complaint was that the higher one went in rank (at least once you passed sergeant) it seemed that you had to be willing to sacrifice more and more of your morals and principals. When I was asked why I didn't take the lieutenants test, my standard answer was, "I can't. My sense of justice is too well defined." Needless to say, not many lieutenants and above liked me. But at least I can still look at myself in the mirror and have a clean conscience.

    Well, I sure didn't mean to offend anyone, and if I did, then I sincerely apologize. And I did like Gran Torino, I just didn't like the ending. And I suppose that's just due to a 23 year career in corrections, and knowing how it really is. I guess because I worked for so long in a prison, I have become just a tad cynical and biased, and I tend to view the world, and the movies I watch, with that same cynicism and bias. In fact, my wife often has to tell me when I see someone that I think looks just a little bit suspicious, "Come on Bob, not everyone is an inmate!" (After all these years she DOES know what I'm thinking!).


    Maybe I was disappointed in the ending because I found, while watching the movie, that I could really relate to the character Walt. My grandkids (don't worry, they're 17 and older) kept telling me that Walt reminded them of me. Not that I'm a racist, because I'm not, but I do tend to speak my mind and call things as I see them without sugar coating it in any way.


    At any rate, my opinions about Gran Torino are just that. My opinions. Nothing more than the ramblings of a cranky old cuss.

    Well, I just watched Gran Torino, and I have to say that I'm a bit disappointed. Although I liked the film for the most part (and it definitely is a remake, albeit updated, of The Shootist), I hated the ending. It's like Walt (Clint's role) just gives up. The bad guys win! What a crappy ending! I wanted to see the good guys win! Yes, I recognized the anti-violence message, the "violence isn't the way" message, but just letting the gang bangers go to prison, even for life, isn't beating them. It's letting them win, and Walt dies for nothing. I worked in corrections for 23 years, and believe me, gang bangers just get worse when they're locked up, and they still have influence on the streets when they're locked up. In real life, the gang leader would simply have sent out a coded message to someone on the streets and he would have had Thou and/or his family, as well as the witnesses and their families either beaten, threatened, harassed, or killed outright. Although I may sound cold hearted, after 23 years of dealing with these animals (they are NOT people, not even human), I have come to realize and understand that they are nothing more than cockroaches, and the only way to deal with them effectively is to deal with them as you would a hive of roaches.


    Okay, I'll get off my soapbox now.