You are most welcome you two! KEITH
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I actually bought that book for christmas. It was a W.H.Smith "exclusive" in the UK.
For my US friends WH Smith is originally a Book seller in UK but now covers a multitude of newspapers, candies cds dvds etc.
I was going to ask that question about Star Wars as I saw the trivia. Never get round to posting things.
Well done LT Brannigan.
Thanks for the link Hawswill
Hi there LT. Don't know if this will help:
"While speaking at London's National Film Theatre in 2009, Ben Burtt disclosed that the alien gibberish sprouted by the Mos Eisley spy Garindan/Long Snoot in Star Wars was actually the processed voice of John Wayne. "
You can find it down near the end of this:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0076759/trivia
Hope it helps, KEITH
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have been trying to whittle down the backlog of movies I got for Christmas and have just about got to a reasonable amount. But anyway I received two John Wayne books for Christmas, and one of them has me scratching my head as to the whereabouts this particular piece of trivia came in.
In "John Wayne: From Western Hero to Hollywood Legend"
it says
Sorry if this has been discussed to death already, but there is two strikes against me, 1: I am too lazy to peruse the backlog of posts, 2: I haven't been following the discussions like I should have.
Thanks for this interesting, fascinating and insightful look into this book.
It looks like one to have.
I will link this post to the book profile in
Duke's Books
Welcome.
If I cannot get Scott to join us here, (still trying), I will continue to post what he sends me by email. I had told him I hoped the book would be out in time for Ward's and my birthdays, April 9th and 11th respectively. He laughingly replied that his is the 2nd of April...........I just can't wait! My order is in already, LOL! Scott calls this an "epic", and it must be. When I questioned him on some of the films that were in it that were made after Ward's death, he told me that the book encompasses ALL of their work whether made together or with someone else. He answers questions on the Facebook site, but if someone wants to ask a question and doesn't have Facebook, I will be glad to pass it on for them.
KEITH Did I mention I was MOST excited, LOL?
OH, here is a bit about Scott.....very impressive!
Scott, the author of Three Bad Man just sent me a new article out on the book. It answers some more questions than does the website. At the end are a pair of Ward's calvary pants laid out at the foot of Pappy's grave..........now just what kind of significance it that, I wonder? This is going to be one HECK of a book
Bad Men – Scott Allen Nollen Talks About His Latest Book
http://immortalephemera.com/27…d-men-scott-allen-nollen/
[INDENT]A couple of years ago I bumped into Scott Allen Nollen online and I was soon pumping him with questions about his authorized biography of Boris Karloff.
So I became very excited when Scott dropped me a note on Facebook to let me know about the page he had set up to promote his coming book THREE BAD MEN: John Ford, John Wayne, Ward Bond (That link takes you over to Facebook where you can 'Like' Scott's new page and receive updates about it).
Besides his Karloff biography, A Gentleman's Life, Scott has authored a second Karloff volume offering a critical account of the horror icon's entire career.
Additional subjects covered in book form by Scott Allen Nollen include: Frank Sinatra, Paul Robeson, Abbott and Costello, Laurel and Hardy, Louis Armstrong, Jethro Tull, Robin Hood on film, Sir Arthur Conan Doyle on film, and Warner Wiseguys: All 112 Films That Robinson, Cagney and Bogart Made for the Studio.
Major subjects. Major variety.
Based on how much I enjoyed Scott's work about Karloff I needed to know more about THREE BAD MEN. It's not out yet, so I don't have a copy, but I did have a few questions about what is coming soon ... beginning with when it is actually coming.
After that I ask Scott several questions about the linked lives and careers of John Wayne, John Ford and Ward Bond and by the end of the interview even get a taste of who his next subject will be--another vastly different type of star!
Once more, the THREE BAD MEN Facebook page. My interview with Scott Allen Nollen follows:
[/INDENT]Question: Scott, thanks so much for submitting to another round of questions from me. When's your latest book, THREE BAD MEN: John Ford, John Wayne and Ward Bond due out?
Scott Allen Nollen: The book, which is in the “post-production” phase right now, is scheduled to become available from McFarland in April, and can be pre-ordered at www.mcfarlandbooks.com.
Question: Okay, I think the first question anyone is going to have over your book is simply, Ward Bond? Pappy and the Duke have gotten their fair share of coverage throughout the years, why did you feel compelled to add Bond to the mix?
Scott Allen Nollen: I didn’t really add Ward Bond to the mix. He was always there. If previous writers haven’t included Bond to the extent they should have, they haven’t really understood one of the most important dynamics in the world of John Ford. And, aside from the relationships Bond had with Ford and Wayne, he was a superb, completely naturalistic actor. Ford noticed this as soon as he met Bond. Pappy was uncanny when it came to actors, as well as every other aspect of filmmaking, some of which he helped create.
The book opens with a brief biography covering Bond’s early years in Nebraska and Colorado, and then continues with an in-depth look at the complex, love-hate relationships that he and Wayne developed with Ford.
Question: How did this project evolve? Was it always going to be about all three, Ford, Wayne and Bond, or did that develop as you went along?
Scott Allen Nollen: I’ve always had a fascination with Ward Bond as one of the most prolific and versatile of all American character actors. He racked up a total of 261 film appearances (plus major television work) during a 30-year career. If not for his career-damaging conservative political activities and his premature death at age 57, this total would be far greater.
Many years ago, I began collecting memorabilia on Bond (or “Bondiana,” as Ford called it), and a friend suggested that I write a book about him.
While working on countless other projects, the Bond idea was always in the back of my mind, so I eventually conceptualized a new approach to the book on John Ford I had been planning since 1985. So “evolve” it did, over quite a period of time, into a portrait of the amazing relationships between Ford, Wayne and Bond, as well as a thorough study of the lives and all the films of these “Three Bad Men.”
Question: No Ford and Wayne story I come across seems complete without personal conflict coming into play, sometimes to such a degree we forget how close these men actually were. Rather than the negative can you tell us about any genuine warmth between John Ford and John Wayne?
Scott Allen Nollen: Warmth is not a word that can really be applied to John Ford. He was an artistic genius, whose brilliance sometimes crossed that thin line into madness, particularly when lubricated with near-lethal doses of alcohol.
Ford truly loved Wayne, and there are occasional moments of actions approaching affection in the story. Arguably, he loved Bond even more, but Pappy deliberately avoided showing positive emotions in public.
With Wayne, Bond, and others, such as Victor McLaglen and Henry Fonda, Ford actually displayed his love by being cruel, even sadistic, to them, often in public. He was particularly fond of kicking Duke and Ward in the bum!
With Ford, everything is complex and enigmatic. It’s an incredible story that required an epic book, so it can’t easily be explained in a brief interview format.
Question: Once more, how does Ward Bond fit into this dynamic? Did he and Duke align themselves against Ford for protection? Was one of the three a mediator between the other two? How close was Bond to Ford in comparison to Wayne?
Scott Allen Nollen: Ford “discovered” both Wayne and Bond, whom Duke previously had known as a student and football player at USC. As close as Ford was to Wayne, there were times when Pappy didn’t pay much attention to him, particularly during the long “freeze out” following Duke’s starring in Raoul Walsh’s The Big Trail in 1930 and Ford’s production of Stagecoach in 1938.
During this period, Duke did hang out with Pappy on occasion, often to play cards and go fishing; but Bond had a fairly continuous, 31-year professional relationship with Ford that was even more solid on a personal level. As early as 1930, Ward was spending the New Year’s holiday with John and Mary Ford, and attending football games with Pappy, who loved live sporting events. No one was closer to Ford than Bond; and no one really ever “mediated” with John Ford—everyone just took their chances, and rarely knew what to expect.
Pappy definitely kept everyone, especially those closest to him, on their toes.
Question: Will THREE BAD MEN look at the overall lives and careers of these three men or is there a definite concentration upon the specific films they worked in and on together?
Scott Allen Nollen: The book covers EVERYTHING: their mutual films and television programs, as well as all the work each of these three men did throughout their lengthy careers. The book will keep the reader busy for quite some time. Just looking at the collection of rare and unpublished photos, all reproduced from originals in my collection, will—I hope—entertain and enlighten.
Question: While the focus will obviously be upon the Three Bad Men of the title, what outsider penetrates the story more than any other? In other words, if you had to pick a "Fourth Bad Man" who would it be? Do other members of the Ford Stock Company make a considerable appearance in THREE BAD MEN?
Scott Allen Nollen: There isn’t anyone who would qualify as a “Fourth Bad Man,” but there are many Ford “Stock Company” folks who command their own space in the book: John’s older brother, Francis Ford, a true cinematic pioneer responsible for bringing “Jack” into the world of filmmaking; the mighty war veterans and boxers George O’Brien and Victor McLaglen; Will Rogers, Stepin Fetchit, Hank Fonda, Maureen O’Hara, Anna Lee, and many others.
Question: Scott, I haven't seen the book beyond the cover: Is there any additional facet of THREE BAD MEN that I missed in the questions above? Something you're especially proud of and want to share here?
Scott Allen Nollen: I think I’m most proud of the fact that it’s perhaps the first major book to tie everything together with regard to Admiral John Ford: his most important personal relationships, his great artistry, his incomparable and important World War II service, his tragic substance-abuse problems; plus the great work his two “surrogate sons,” John Wayne and Ward Bond, helped create along the way.
I believe the reader may get a more accurate impression of who Ford really was, although he’ll always remain delightfully enigmatic. To rework the most famous line from The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance, I’ve endeavored to “print the facts” as well as “throw some light on the legends.”
Question: Any plans for what's next?
I’ve been ill for the past several years, so Three Bad Men will be my last (and I hope, greatest) epic.
I have to slow down a bit now, but will always have a book project in development, as well as the essay and film-writing work that I do. I recently contributed the narration script to Finnigan’s War, a forthcoming documentary on the Korean Conflict featuring Conor Timmis and Mark Hamill.[INDENT]Thank you so much, Scott!
Here's the THREE BAD MEN Facebook page once more. Also the McFarland page to pre-order the book.
And here is the interview I conducted with Scott in 2011 about Boris Karloff: A Gentleman's Life.
I can't wait to ask Scott about Glenda Farrell! Til then, we may be back to discuss these THREE BAD MEN in a little more detail once I've seen a copy.
[/INDENT]
Really looking forward to Three Bad Men.
Oh, me too, May 2, for sure. Trying to talk the author into joining JWMB. He is GREAT about answering questions, etc. Quite a history this man has and I think has written about 18 books.....very meticulous about his research. I think everyone will love him. And I sure hope folks make him welcome here. Will introduce him on the New Member Forum, I guess. So, keep an eye out. You can buy book directly from him and he will comment on them the way you want and sign them to you. Pretty cool. KEITH
Not sure yet if I'll be able to get to Winterset this year but I'll know later on in the spring.
I'd sure love to be able to tell Miss O'Hara thank you for everything from a fan -- and then get a quote from her about Ben Johnson!
Speaking of John Wayne books, I just got that big doorstopper of a coffee table book John Wayne: The Man and the Legend and it's worth every penny. Not much text but what's there is really nice, and the oversized pictures are to die for! (Although, not one with Ben in the entire book, at least as far as I can see.)
-- Paula the girl with the one-track mind
Nice to know that about the book. More text is what I was hoping for.....behind the scenes stories, etc.
You didn't even mention the Ward, Pappy, Duke Book. I would have mentioned a SON one, LOL! HAGO, KEITH
I suppose all know about this except me, LOL, but I was MOST excited to find out about it. About time someone wrote about the three of them. It comes out in April.
THREE BAD MEN: John Ford, John Wayne, Ward Bond
Needless to say, I just can't wait! KEITH
I suppose everyone knows this, but I searched as well as I know how and didn't find it. Anyway, Toby at 50 WESTERNS FROM THE 50S
https://fiftieswesterns.wordpr…and-the-man/#comment-4654
wrote this:
John Wayne: The Legend And The Man.
November 26, 2012 by Toby
Coming next week (December 4) is a book that could very well be a must for folks who mosey through this blog: John Wayne: The Legend And The Man. Put together by John Wayne Enterprises, this estate-authorized book features photos and personal memorabilia from every part of Wayne’s incredible life and career. It also includes an essay by Patricia Bosworth, a foreword by Martin Scorsese, remembrances by Maureen O’Hara and Ronald Reagan and an interview with Ron Howard.
If you click on the "you can by it HERE", you will see a good many excerpts from the book. Yep, I would like one! KEITH
Oh well, I tried. KEITH
Well, good, Keith, so it was 6 times....was too late to do a thorough search to make sure. Once again, so glad it helped. I like it much better this way and hope you do also. I wish you would comment on my article on Speakeasy. Even if you don't like it and reply negatively. It would mean a lot to me. After quite a few posts, it is still at the top of the list. Would love it if you would read the replies that a couple of the Western Bloggers made. Also, you might want to read Kristina's bio on Ward...it is excellent. I am correcting a few things for her and we will be putting out a kind of "addendum" to it shortly. Please reply on her article, and you could put Moderator JWMB on there with a link to it.....will be fine with Kristina....have told her all about it. http://hqofk.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/wagon-master/ Think on it, my "old" friend. Used to be...could be again. I would like that. KP Oh dear......now I have to wait until I see how it turns out.......
Well, Keith, I am SO glad you could use one....thought you had to have certain years. Anyway, the link I gave you shows the ones that Duke was in just in case you want to add that into your thread. There were six total according to the article and it gives the dates and shows the covers with Duke. HAGO, KEITH
http://i1269.photobucket.com/a…kswill/JohnWayneNov58.jpg
Six covers with Duke on them on this site, but '55 and '58. The rest are
before: 1955
1958 KEITH
Keith, your post wasn't removed. The topic about the Photoplay magazine had started over in the Train Robbers thread. Since it went off topic for that thread, some of the posts got moved over to here. I looked and saw that your reply was still in that thread. I can see how you thought your post was removed, but it wasn't. I hope this clears up the confusion some.
Mark
Thanks Mark. I knew it had been moved and checked the Train Robbers thread. Just must have missed it.
Also, thanks for letting me know you got the sketch. If you could post it on the Sketch thread with the comments, I would appreciate it. I was late getting yours and Russ' out and I want to make sure folks know they DID go out, LOL. You don't need to comment on it, just that you received it.
I hope you really DO like it. You know I was very new at portraits. It IS unusual and think I will use that type of thing in more sketches. They kind of tell a little part of the story. The 20 page Shootist one is going to be very good, I think. I might even matte and frame that one myself!
Funny, only two folks from JWMB commented on my article.......You and Peter. Did better with the well known Western Bloggers...got three of them who said they had never known what I put in the article. One even changed his article on his blog with some corrections and additions I gave him and put an Editor's note on the end complimenting me for helping him....something like that. They have all talked me into doing my own blog. I had balked at it for so long, because I have enough to do already, but.......thought it might provide a few pages where , well, never mind.....thanks again for telling me.
Bill's pictures are awesome, aren't they? He told me they were just some he had lying around upstairs. The good ones are in boxes in the basement. My goodness....wonder what we have coming yet?
HAGO, KEITH
Thanks, Dooley! I will work on it and hopefully I can find the magazine as I try to get my hands on anything Ben is in.
Though sometimes I just don't have enough money... anyone want to front me $9,000 plus for this print?
Well, somehow, my post was removed, but it was up there right after you asked before anyone else answered. I said I had spent a good bit of time searching and had aksed two of my sources to find it. I called off the search as you skipped right over my post and on to Dooley's. Now, it isn't even here. So, one was on to it, but I told him it wasn't necessary anymore to stop tracing. When folks try to help, you should answer them.
HAGO, KEITH
LOL, Larry, I tried to find it for her.....thought I was pretty good at searching. But drew a blank here! Did ask a couple of my sources if they would try checking it out though. KEITH
I did not cover this photoplay not the date but it should be easy to find on the Web.
