Good on you Jim.
Imagine if for gain, or whatever reason,
our government's took away all the homes owned by
foreigners, say in Florida, or here in London etc..!!
Give 'em time, Keith, give 'em time.
Good on you Jim.
Imagine if for gain, or whatever reason,
our government's took away all the homes owned by
foreigners, say in Florida, or here in London etc..!!
Give 'em time, Keith, give 'em time.
Good point Grumpy and thanks for your continued input in this conversation.
You made many good point, including this one
How strange now, that no one did when they had the chance,
after all they had up to some 50 odd years to do so, before Mr. Ebbit!!
So why they so keen now, money, and what the cottage can bring them???
I read another article today (unfortunately, I did not think to bookmark it! Now I have to find it again!), and in that article there was a quote from an Irish government official. In that quote, the official was saying something about the cottage is in Ireland, and therefore should be owned be a citizen of Ireland, someone who lives there, and not an American. I believe there was also talk about trying to find a way to simply take ownership of the cottage ruins. It will be very interesting to see where this all leads.
I think that's the key thing. Mr. Ebbitt indicated to me that he has been approached with offers to buy the property from him over the years, but he doesn't want to sell it. He's not interested in leasing the land. He absolutely wants to retain ownership, but he also absolutely loves the movie and what that property represents, and would very much like to see the cottage restored. He has carefully researched many aspects of accurate restoration, down to the quarry where the original stones came from. I believe he wants to be very involved in the process of restoration, though he is not in a position financially at this time to do it himself. I also think he does not want to be 'bulldozed' by others regarding HIS property.
I don't know how recent any contacts with him have been, but to read the current articles, you would think he is stonewalling everyone. I suspect the approaches to him may have been adversarial at this point and, like most of us, he doesn't care for that. Can't say I blame him!
Chester
It's beginning to sound as if both sides want the same thing, the restoration of the cottage, but for different reasons. It sounds as if Mr. Ebbitt wants the cottage restored because he loves it, and it sounds as if the government wants the cottage restored because it will bring in tourism dollars. The question may then be, who will benefit financially from the restoration, and more importantly, who will be in charge of the cottage once it is restored? In other words, who will be calling the shots and making the decision as to how the cottage will be presented, how it will be handled, what kind of access tourists and other visitors will have, and who will manage it. Although I don't know for sure, but I would suspect the government would want Mr. Ebbitt to hand over all management of the cottage to them, and I suspect he does not want to do that.
Display MoreAs to the fragmentation of support for achieving a stated common goal:
"It is truly amazing what can be accomplished when no one cares who gets the credit."
A few random-ish thoughts On the topic of the present owner and his actions:
I have seen similar situations develop where the will of private ownership appears to be in conflict with some public sentiment or "call for preservation" that desires different handling of a property than what the legal owner originally intended. To be fair, I do not know whether the present land-owner came into possession through inheritance of family holdings or outright purchase, recent or not.
Regardless, one cannot help but think that anyone thrust into a situation where organized groups of people not actually invested in ownership of property attempt to dictate or suggest how that property should be managed is going to feel a bit reluctant to give up control and even resent the intrusion of "outsiders".
My opinion is that the Irish government ( whether national or local I have no bias) should offer to purchase the property and its environs and create a small park ( aka tourist destination). Clearly they are aware of its heritage and importance as a film location, but more importantly the film popularized Irish culture to world movie audiences ( certainly Americans ) in such a way that few films have then - or since. Economically, this has been a very valuable resource for the Irish people.
Should ownership of the cottage and property in question remain private, perhaps the best course to preserve and protect the site would be to fashion a private tour experience/ lease that includes the cottage site where a fee is paid by the tour operators for ongoing upkeep , insurance and maintenance.
The family who rightfully own this property need to be either made whole, have their concerns and needs protected, or otherwise be made to feel welcome in this discussion or it will go no-where.
As Duke would say, they own it fair and square. If we're gonna strike some kind of bargain, we need to make sure its good for all involved. A rising tide lifts all boats- so, what's it take to make most everybody happy here ?
Very good points grumpy. Perhaps what is needed is a go-between, a liaison that could bring the two sides together to the benefit of both. Of course, I have no idea what the owner is thinking or what his plans are, nor do I have any idea that the ultimate goal of the Irish government is. Perhaps, as grumpy implies, the owners wishes and the governments ultimate goals may be worlds apart. I guess this will just have to be a wait and see situation.
I read an interesting news article on White O'Morn this morning. The article is from an Irish news service. According to the article, the Irish government has offered to pay for all restoration on White O'Morn, but the owner won't talk to them about it. It seems to me that everything is ready to start, but the owner is dragging his feet. Here is the link to the article:
http://www.independent.ie/nati…-man-cottage-2960377.html
Thanks, I was able to get to the site, and join of course.
I don't know why there seems to be problems with the other Facebook site, the Save the Quiet Man Cottage page. It seems to me to be counterproductive to the goal of saving White O'Morn.
Display MoreAnother thing, apparently, Patrick McCormick has started up another STQMC
FaceBook Group here,
http://www.facebook.com/groups/145679675522439/?ref=notif¬if_t=g
Group_activity
called
'White O'Morn' Restoration
Chester
Jim, the White O'Morn link doesn't open anything. Is the page missing?