Lord have mercy, Gorch. I think I hate you and Ringo both, just a little. There are 118 theatre screens here, with 5 more that are IMAX and none of them ever show old films.
No fair. *pouts* I searched for an emoticon of someone sticking out their tongue playfully but was unable to locate same expressing my envy of you two guys. ;-p <--- There it is.
Display MoreIm not sure whats so political about the above--I only mentioned I need distraction from it because--I detest everything about what that word stands for. Anyway, im not mentioning it anymore here. I agree that talking about it--is one fo the fastest ways i know of--to lose friends. Anyway, topic change time
The only theater near me that shows older films that im aware of is Cinemark. I never knew they did that till Bill and someone else here mentioned it. Im going to see The Great Escape even if the the bus ride to the theaters if it kills me to do so. I went and watched The Searchers and gave me my 2nd chance in 35 years to see Duke on the big screen. I was 9 when The Shootist came out and was denied my only chance to see Duke in a theater.
The sad thing about my area and classics being shown--is that the majority of the people will not go see them on the big screen--which perplexes me? I THINK the trouble with Cinemark was that they didnt (at least here) make any announcements on showing classics unless you happened to go see some other movie there first--which means watching soemthing new made that is most likely garbage.
If they played classics on the screen more often? I would go see them all-or most of them anyway. The only time I saw a classic on the big screen--was when they showed all summer long--Gone With the Wind and a friend and I went to see it mainly because we had nothing else to do--and it was hot outside and it gave us a chance to get sick eating too much candy. The only thing I wanted to see that movie for was to see any action. I rememebr I couldnt wait for the movie to end even though I dont hate it but--it will never be in my DvD collection.
You're so fortunate. We have nearly 100* theatre screens here in Jacksonville, yet none of them show older films. I so wish that they did. We have 10 IMAX screens here. I'd love to see some of the older films on those or even in the larger theatres late nights but no chance. We only have boring Hollywood junk. It's rare I go to the cinema. The last film I went to see was 6 months ago and it was a Dr Seuss film. I am not making this up. I didn't even go with a child, I went because I happen to like Dr Seuss myself. It was The Lorax, and Betty White voiced one of the characters. Love her and she was awesome as the grandmother.
We used to have a revival theatre but it's been remodeled into, I'm not sure what it is now. The historic building's there but the marquee is gone. I moved away from my home town for some time and when I moved back things were very different. That's what I get for turning my back, I suppose.
*makes note to count the theatre screens to be exact, there could be more than 100
They couldn't have picked a better time to play it either--right at or just after election-time--and I may need it to distract me providing the wrong ones stay in office.
May we please not drag any politics into this nice place? That nasty business is everywhere and I prefer that it's not be here as well. Someone's ideas of 'wrong ones' may be someone else's ideas of 'right ones' and we're having such a lovely time. Let us not spoil it, please.
What I learned is not to discuss politics or religion and we would all get on perfectly well. I find that this rule works online as well as in personal discourse. However, I will be guided by our moderator in this as in all things.
Do you have a theater near you that shows revival films, RK? That would be a wonderful thing. I wish we did. Although the commercial film industry was born in my home town of Jacksonville, Florida, they were driven out by blue-nosed ladies who thought the people who made films were immoral. So unfortunate. Many firsts took place here, including the first creation of the color film ever made.
Neat. Then you know 'perzackly' what I mean. 
The closest to that is my friend who had 5 sons. Those boys, with the exception of the redheaded one, were so much alike that the photographs of each of them were identical. Were it not for their clothing and their friends, their school photos would be unable to be separated one from the other.
The oldest looked exactly like the third like the fourth and the fifth. It was amazing to me how much like clones they were. The redhead was adorable and looked like himself, of course. They're all handsome and brilliant and have done well now. Two of them have graduated from the Air Force academy and are in service, one is becoming a doctor, one a pharmacist and the other a pilot. I'm proud to say I knew them when and I'm proud of all of them.
My son was best friends with the youngest boy. They're still good friends but don't see one another often, unfortunately. We had to move for middle school and my son isn't much interested in email. He's autistic, I believe I mentioned that before. It's too bad, he loves his friend. We were going to attend his wedding but my son was very ill. It's a shame.
We miss them a lot. His mother's a great friend of mine.
That one sounds interesting to say the least ;-)) Allisyn and Heather were born 8 ot 10 years apart and they are identical in every way, shape and form. I saw Heather a few years ago and she looks exactly like Allisyn did when we hung around and went out. Almost like I stepped back in time 20 years ;-))
That must be very odd. I can only imagine what that must be like.
Hi Keith, I appreciate that ;-)) I often dont word things right so things look different if you dont know me? Luckily, a few here do and know my style ;-)) Sorry about the guff between you and the MiL. I was the best friend of a beautiful gal by the name of Allisyn--and it was because of me--that her mother no longer beat her to a pulp over anything. I was the only person Allisyn ever brought home that she liked and had respect for. I went over onetime and luckily the front door to the house was unlocked and I head screaming and rushed in in time to see the mother take a butcher knife and was actually in the process of trying to stab Allisyn and the mom stopped when she saw me and said nothing-dropped the butcher knife and walked to the living rooom and just sat in a chair. Allisyn was shaking so bad. We called the Dad--who im still good friends with--and he asked me to stay there till he get there. To make along story short--the mother had somekind of a mental problem and she thought her first born Daughter was a spawn of the devil or somehting like that? Needless to say--she's been Institutionalized. I also waited around for the younger Daughter to get back from School. Allisyan and her Sister Heather--were actual twins--just born several years apart. I forget what the term for that is?
Not sure there's a term for that, RK. I believe we call them twins born in different years. I went to school with twins born in different years but they were born at the same time, one a few minutes before midnight on New Year's Eve and the other born in the New Year. They were non-identical dizygotic, or fraternal twins. Both girls were pretty but they were very different: one was tall and one was short, one was sweet-looking and one was beautiful, one was petite and one was buxom and voluptuous. Interesting and strange, isn't it?
Hi Keith, I greatly appreciate this useful info. I dont hate the Viets as a whole--just those responsible for mistreating our guys as well as their Southern brothers--when there was zero need for it. I have Vietnamese friends here in Corpus--and he's pretty cool. We often worked together when I was a Correctional Officer for the State of Texas. His name--Nguyen--pronounced Wynn. Anyway, he was one of those "Vietnamese Boat People" that came to the USA back in the 70s--and I think they landed around Galveston and stayed there till moving to Corpus.
Anywya, as much as it sounds like im a hateful person--not really--I just hate those who are criminals and criminal-minded. To me--those brutal NVA guards are scum of the Earth.
Even though I TRY to live a simple life--mine is far from simple.
Ringo Kid, you don't sound the least bit hateful to me. There are horrible and bad people in the world. If I told you what my MIL did to me, you'd probably hate her on my behalf. She thought she was doing the right thing. People think they're doing the right thing when they're misguided. That's how I have to think of my MIL, as misguided. She meant well, or she thought she did.
My electrician's from South Vietnam...he doesn't speak often of the war but he has stories to tell. He evacuated because most of his family was killed in the war.
He's a great guy. I call him first every time I have a problem. He rewired my entire house last year and did a great job. We built it in 1979 and had a problem with the siding leaking so it needed rewiring. He was one of those who evacuated hanging onto a helicopter. A horrible experience for him. He's American now, a naturalized citizen. He works hard, pays taxes and votes. He's a good guy and belongs to a union. When I have an electrical problem he comes over on the same day, usually within two hours. Could anyone ask for better customer service than that? I recommend him to everyone. But I digress.
I think you're a good guy. I carried around a big load of anger, hatred and resentment for a long time. You see, my mother-in-law nearly killed me. It wasn't in combat but I would have been just as dead.
I've forgiven her. I feel better now without carrying all that anger and rage; that's all I'm saying. Anyone interested in the details can send me a PM. This is the end of my public discussion on this topic.
Hi Mona, A discussion is going on about Hellfighters. I and another loved it, but most of the ones I normally agree with didn't like it at all. I wonder if it might be a Male/Female type thing. What did YOU think of it. Thanks, Keith
Not sure I've ever seen it all the way through. off to Netflix
Ill never forgive or forget what the north nam-ese did to our guys. I cant begin to imagine the hell he went through. Naming his boat after that sounds to me like he is more than willing to talk about it. I hope he does as stories like that NEED telling.
One of my best friends lost his brother in a plane crash in Vietnam. (A coincidence) Steve has grieved for his brother so for so long now that it's been more years than he was alive. I can understand that kind of hurt. I had a sister. She died from cancer when I was 7. I've grieved for her all my life. At some point you either let go and forgive or you carry that burden or anger and resentment and it poisons the rest of your life. You see, the kind of cancer that killed my sister, Joyce, is now treatable. See how annoying that is?
Steve is also a pilot. He carried that anger for decades. The last time I saw him, he let it go. It's taken him a long time and he will never forget or stop loving his brother as he'll never stop missing him. I'll never stop missing Joyce. She'll always be with me as a part of my heart. This is something that only recently happened. It takes us a while sometimes.
Of course, we all make out own decisions about these things. Carrying anger and resentments hurts us rather than the other party. Here's something I read recently that helped me about being unwilling to forgive and let go: 'Unwillingness to forgive is like drinking poison and waiting for the other person to die.'
I'd been angry with my mother-in-law, righteously so, for nearly 20 years. Still, I was the one with migraine headaches, high blood pressure, backaches and insomnia. I wanted to forgive her for my sake but somehow all that I had done wasn't quite enough to allow me to let go of my anger and rage toward her. Once I read these words, I was able to release all that anger, rage, resentment and yes, hatred, that I had held on to, and finally forgive her for all the harm and ill that she had done to me. It was an incredible feeling of freedom.
Now, in the event anyone may think it was a minor case of daughter-in-law/mother-in-law issues, allow me to disabuse you of that notion. I spoke to this woman on the telephone only once a year, at Christmas, and that night I would have screaming nightmares that would wake everyone in the 4,000 square foot split level house. Yes, my monster-in-law gave me PTSD. I am not exaggerating, it was that bad. I am not making this up. I went to great lengths to avoid her, taking separate vacations from my husband, even, who vacationed with his mother every year. (If anyone must know, send me a PM, it's a long story.)
But this is my experience. I'm not telling anyone how they should live. This is what I did. I used to be addicted to rage attacks, too. My life is ever so much better now, not to mention the people around me are happier without the Extreme Bitch Queen living with them. 
(I mean me, of course!)
So forgive me this brief segue into How I Learned to Forgive My Monster In Law. Please don't take it as me telling anyone to change your own lives. There's no advice in anything ^ there. This is what I did: I can speak with my MIL on the phone now and I even send her emails.
Interestingly enough, she's apologised to me twice now. Since I'm a Christian and Jesus told us that if we want to be forgiven we have to forgive others, I've forgiven her for her trespasses against me. It was a huge load off my own back for which I am grateful.
There's a process for this. If you're interested in either one, let me know via PM. I don't miss the screaming nightmares.
I posted a thread on this movie just recently
Classic Movie Westerns- Geronimo: An American Legend (1993)
Thank you, Ethan. Now I really want to screen Geronimo.
Thank you, also, for this board. It's opened up a number of great films for my family viewing. I'm grateful for that and more grateful for the new friends I've made here.
Hi P, As far as I know I saw it fromt he beginning. Thing is, since I disliked the movie, ive never thought much on it and tried not to remember it. The only part that stands out for me--were the Civil War scenes. After that--I got bored with the movie but--I did watch it till the end credits--I just havent seen it since just after it came out so i can easily get things confused from ti and movies liek: Geronimo and the newer Westerns. Ive only seen Geronimo in parts--including a recent broadcast of it a few days ago. I like that film--or what ive seen even if the actual history is greatly distorted. Im a big Gene Hackman and Wes Studi fan. Anyway, I did see DWW fully through but--just cant name other scenes that I can remember. Also, I DO have a memory problem thanks to a Neurological problem--and that's partly to blame ;-))
Will truly is awesome and I hope someday he will "talk" about his full experiences by writing a book which I would buy--or maybe getting Clint Eastwood to make his story into a movie and you know Clint would take careful attention to keeping things correct ;-)) Same goes for the Navy Office too. I wonder if he saw John McCain while an unwilling ""guest"" of the hanoi Hilton?
Much appreciated though for you willing to pass on my wishes to Will. People like he is really makes me that much prouder to be an American. I got VERY lucky when I was attending College. By accident i met and shook hands with a famous Nam Vet who was a Medal of Honor Recipient by the name of: Roy Benivides. He was a Sergeant in Nam and just look up his citation and you will be amazed. Sarge Bill said that on every pay day when he was in the Army--they used to read citations of MoH Recipients and remembers Audie Murphys and Sgt Benivides's citations well--as he was the one who read them to his unit.
So far I haven't seen Geronimo. Sounds like I should look for it.
Skipper may have done. He was there for more than 5 years. The chief torturer called him mat su'e. It means pig of my eye. He named his boat Mat Sue in Key West. I found that a bit odd, but some of his cheese had slipped from his cracker. They were all a bit strange when they returned. IIRC he lived in a hole in the ground for that 5 year period. He didn't talk specific details about when he was in jail to us wives. This is what my husband told me.
Hi P, As far as I know I saw it fromt he beginning. Thing is, since I disliked the movie, ive never thought much on it and tried not to remember it. The only part that stands out for me--were the Civil War scenes. After that--I got bored with the movie but--I did watch it till the end credits--I just havent seen it since just after it came out so i can easily get things confused from ti and movies liek: Geronimo and the newer Westerns. Ive only seen Geronimo in parts--including a recent broadcast of it a few days ago. I like that film--or what ive seen even if the actual history is greatly distorted. Im a big Gene Hackman and Wes Studi fan. Anyway, I did see DWW fully through but--just cant name other scenes that I can remember. Also, I DO have a memory problem thanks to a Neurological problem--and that's partly to blame ;-))
Will truly is awesome and I hope someday he will "talk" about his full experiences by writing a book which I would buy--or maybe getting Clint Eastwood to make his story into a movie and you know Clint would take careful attention to keeping things correct ;-)) Same goes for the Navy Office too. I wonder if he saw John McCain while an unwilling ""guest"" of the hanoi Hilton?
Much appreciated though for you willing to pass on my wishes to Will. People like he is really makes me that much prouder to be an American. I got VERY lucky when I was attending College. By accident i met and shook hands with a famous Nam Vet who was a Medal of Honor Recipient by the name of: Roy Benivides. He was a Sergeant in Nam and just look up his citation and you will be amazed. Sarge Bill said that on every pay day when he was in the Army--they used to read citations of MoH Recipients and remembers Audie Murphys and Sgt Benivides's citations well--as he was the one who read them to his unit.
RK, I was glad to pass on your message to Will. However, he'll never be writing a book or otherwise be going through his memories. It's much too upsetting for him. His psychiatrist and therapists have told him to leave it alone.
No probs with not agreeing--free Country. I know my memory has slipped on that movie--ive only seen that scene once ;-))
I hope you dont mind telling your Brother for me, that he is an awesome person and has my deepest respect and thanks for serving and sacrificing. I OWE him a lot. Im friends with lots of Nam Vets, so i know a lot of inside stuff that they go through. Luckily, none of the Nam vets i know where PoWs. Your Brother is as tough as they come-surviving 5 years of excuse the French--hell.
On the movie though, to me thats what I "saw" from the scene and it greatly irritates me to see something IMO--is anti-American-when there is no need for it. Born on the 4th of July made me see white heat-even though i understood what that guy went through.
Did you see DWW from the very beginning? Sounds like you missed the opening. The film starts out just outside the operating tent. The focus is on the 'haystack' of amputated limbs, dripping bloody arms, legs, etc. Then it pulls back and goes into the tent where Lt Dunbar is on the table with the flies swarming around. The doctors are talking about how they have to remove his foot. The doctors are called away and he sees his chance to escape his fate. He'll have none of this and it leads into the scene that you misunderstood.
We all make mistakes, it's part of being human. Shoot, I hardly get through a day without screwing something up. Seems like for some of us folks, the hardest words to say are: 'I'm sorry, I was wrong' doesn't it?. I've raised my son differently.
Will was a Marine Ranger. Tough? Oh, yes, he still is. I don't know how he's put up with the physical pain all these years. He can still kill you 50 different ways with a broom handle from his wheelchair. He went behind the lines in Viet Nam. I'm not allowed to say any more than that or he'd be annoyed with me. His torture experience was beyond hell.
My husband's skipper in the Navy was a POW, too. He was in the Hanoi Hilton. He was very strange. He was released. Will had to rescue himself...that happened after the end of the war. It was different. I have very strong negative feelings about Nixon as a result. Will wasn't treated appropriately, but I refuse to get into a political discussion over him. Our Veterans, on a whole, are not being treated properly.
The more I think about it, the more I know I couldn't live in a wheelchair. I'm nowhere near as tough as Will. If I were free I'd ride Cisco hoping for a bullet to take me out.
I'll be sure to tell Will what you said.
No probs I get mistaken a lot too. I just wanted to make sure that you all knew I was talking about a movie and not about people. Truthfully, I watched it once and didnt make much of it except that at least during the Civil War scenes-that it looked like the Costner character was trying to make some kind of a "statement" by going suicidal and trying to get Johnny Reb to kill him. Reb could have easily done it too being the majority of them were born with rifles in their hands ;-))
I don't know what kind of politics Costner believes in but I have never heard him be public about them--which to me--does show he has class-unlike cLOONEY, hanks, penn and others. My whole "hatred" is for the movie. I dont like a movie--I never watch it again--simple as that.
Pardon me for disagreeing with you but I'm afraid that you're mistaken about there being any message in that scene
In the opening scene the military doctors were going to amputate Lt. Dunbar's foot. He didn't want to live without it so he decided to die for his country rather than live without being whole. He forced his boot on his wounded foot in great pain and took Cisco, to ride down the Rebel sharpshooter line, hoping for a quick death.
In the end, his daring ride allowed the Union to win that battle. Dunbar's CO was taken with his bravery and gave the services of his own personal physician to save Officer Dunbar's foot.
That's what the opening scenes were all about. Dunbar was trying to commit suicide by Rebel bullet, yes, but it was because he didn't want to live as a maimed main. There was no statement involved. It was an intrinsic part of the story that led to Dunbar's being rewarded by being sent out west.
My brother's a Vietnam vet without legs in a wheelchair. He suffers greatly with phantom pain in spite of everything that can be done for him. If I were in his position I don't know if I'd ever agree to an amputation. He was a POW for 5+ years. We thought he was dead for so long. Too long. It's a miracle he came back to us alive.
Did Dunbar have had the right idea? I could see myself on Cisco waiting for a bullet, taking it all away. We'd each have to take that decision for ourselves...I do think about this sometimes. Unendurable phantom pain vs being here for my autistic son. It's an extremely difficult decision I hope I never have to make for myself.
Ive had my fair share of run-ins with Rattlesnakes too. :-))
Yes, we have every venomous snake in the country here, too. So far the only coral snakes I've ever seen have been dead, but I've seen all the rest of them. My husband's cousin was bitten by a copperhead as a child and nearly died.
Hi BJA, Yep, it sure did, LOL. NOW, you were extremely lucky you were wearing shorts that day. Just imagine if those pesky little devils had gone up the INSIDE OF YOUR PANTS LEGS and ended up......well, THAT would have been BAD! HAH! Keith
That's what happened to my father-in-law. He really was stung rather badly...had it not been for Fire chief Buzzy Carter, he would have died then from the allergic reaction, all alone in the house.
We had another 15 good years with him. 
I'm so grateful, we all are.
Yeouch, guys, these painful stories are making me cringe. Thanks for sharing. It's always interesting to hear the true tales of others' run-ins with the deadly venom of the evil flying critters.
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Mona, YES, WD-40 kills most all....think it only knocks out hornets for a while....looked it up for you and am on a deadline, so just peeked a bit. LOTS of articles on using WD-40 and YOUTUBES ALSO. Here is one:
http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Can_wd-40_be_used_as_a_wasp_killer I believe it tells of the Youtubes.
When I rebuilt or did additions on a house, if I had to run electrical in the attic or plumbing in a crawl space, I always carried the small can of WD-40 in my tool belt. I carefully shone my headlamp everywhere, but occasionally critters would venture out to protect their nest before I was aware of its presence. You could hear them coming....and I would use the wide blast of the WD-40. Once stopped, I then put the little "straw" on and gave the nest a good going over. Hated to do it, but....just couldn't take the chance.
I thank you Buzzy Carter also.
HI THERE KEITHER, Yes, if it had gotten out of hand, it wouldn't have. But, to my way of thinking, the few people who emailed and PMed him asking if he was serious, etc. was a form of WD-40. Something to stop a problem before it got started. What do YOU think? I often ask you, but guess you are usually too busy to answer. You MUST stay at your computer ALL THE TIME! I am close, but still have to work in the shop also. RK listened to the people who wrote him. Instead of whipping off a negative reply, he started a thread to ask why? I thought that was very good of him in that he didn't understand, (my fault....don't know about the others), because I did not quote him.......he wasn't sure of what I meant......giving him the benefit of the doubt there because I like RK and think he is great for the Board. As you said, things have worked out.....love it when that happens!
No, WD-40 itself would not have worked. But a WD-40 type of personal contact immediately did. Nothing escalated......and all turned out well.....much to my relief as I really like all involved a great deal.
Aloha, LOL Keith TOO
Thanks for that way off topic advice. We have wasp/hornet/yellowjacket season year round here in the Sunshine State. I'll arm myself with some good old WD40 as soon as I hit the hardware store again. I'm thrilled about this, I never would have thought it would have worked without your personal testimony to back it up.
Just became allergic about 20 years ago.....gets worse everytime. One little YJ sting on my pinky can swell my whole arm up so I cannot bend it in just a few hours.....and THAT is with 2 Benadryls.
If you misplace your spray, WD40 works well....have used it many times. Never want to kill the things, but.....if I have to work around them, sadly I have to. Imagine what two or three stings would do! Maybe I should get an Epi pen just in case, LOL! Keith
Do you mean that WD40 spray works to kill a nest? Please, be clear, because the nest destroying spray is getting very expensive here now. WD40's less costly. Fingers crossed this works, wasp spray is so toxic!
It sounds as though an epi-pen might be a good idea. My father-in-law was cutting the grass with a weed-wacker and he ran into a hornet's nest. They attacked him en masse and he was stung more than 50 times. Fortunately a neighbour witnessed the attack because my FIL went indoors and collapsed in a chair where he would have died. The neighbour's the Fire Chief of the volunteer fire department of the village and immediately called the ambulance squad for help. They gave him IV epinephrin and saved his life.
That good neighbour saved him again a few years later when my FIL had a heart attack. He was listening to the fireman's radio channel when Rescue was called to go to my husband's grandmother's cottage in the next village. He heard them make a wrong turn and, knowing the location address, broke in to redirect them to the proper address. Thank you, Buzzy Carter. We're all grateful to you for letting us have a few more years with Dad. Guy Jackson, RIP.
Wow, I wandered way off the point there, didn't I? Anyway, Ringo Kid, Keith, you both be careful out there. Those critters carry nasty venom and it's a dangerous world.
