Posts from arthurarnell in thread „Duke's Filmography- Past Discussion (Archive)“

  • Duke's Filmography- Past Discussion (Archive)

    Hi


    This topic is bringing forth quite a debate which is great and can only be good for the board.


    And with all these two cents being thrown in we'll all be millionaires.


    For my two cents worth:-


    I have no knowledge of the film Stars Past And Present so I am unable to comment, but of the other two mentioned The Voice of Hollywood and the Hollywood Handicap I would count them both as John Wayne pictures, as does Duke the Life and Times of John Wayne.


    In the book The Speed of Sound pg 270 the author offers the following:-


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    'A shapeless but bizarrely entertaining series of one reel shorts called he Voice of Hollywood began production on Poverty Row at this time featuring a conglomeration of second and third tier silent stars cheek by jowel with radio personalities doing what amounted to screen tests. ....... The Voice of Hollywood #13 offered as hostess the serial star Ruth Roland who does a tap dance Charles King who recites a poem; and (thank god) Jack Benney whio dissuades Estelle Taylor from singing and dancing. The essential novelty of sound was rarely made more explicit than in these cheaply made ramshackle shorts.


    IMDB quotes the Voice of Hollywood #13 as being completely different with John Wayne as the Host and among others Lupe Velez and Gary Cooper starring, it is for hs reason that I include both Velez and Cooper as appearing with John Wayne. If the Speed of Sound is right then the Voice of Hollywood #13 should not be included but at some point I would think a Voice of Hollywood was made it needs only to clarifywho is right and which number is which. Certainly looking through IMDB's Voice of Hollywood series the cast mentioned in The Speed of Sound doesn't figure.


    The second picture THE Hollywood Handicap (1932) was a presentation by the charity group of stars The Thalians Club who ran shows for charity, it should not be confused with Hollywood Handicap (1938) directed by Buster Keaton. described as a comedy short I still consider that the Hollywood Handicap (1932)should be included as a John Wayne film. Although I haven't seen it I believe it is another film in which John Wayne reputeldy sings and plays the guitar. Although the reviewer considers that again it is someone beghind the scenes playing and singing.


    To sum up if the Deceiver and College Coach can be readilly accepted as John Wayne films, the first in which he plays a corpse, and in the secons he is seen briefly shaking hands with Dick Powell, then Voice of Hollywood and Hollywood Handicap should be included.



    Regards


    Arthur

  • Duke's Filmography- Past Discussion (Archive)

    Hi Keith


    In Hangman's House John Wayne has a number of scenes, the obvious is the one everybody shows with him demolishing the fence during the horse race. He is also seen in shadow being sentenced to hang and during which his film career almost came to a stop when he got a fit of the giggles. He is also seen running and waving his arm leading the people to the church and actually gets a written line, although for the life of me now I can't remember what it was, but I think it had something to do with religion.


    In Salute he is seen regularly throughout the picture, generally with Ward Bond and I have put forward the suggestion that this was the film in which he spoke his first lines on screen.


    In Men Without Women if you blink you'll miss him as he is the radio operator seen briefly in the submarine rescue attempt.


    I think in Brown of Harvard it is readilly accepted as being one of his, and I would be surprised if he wasn't in Noah's Ark as it had a supporting cast of thousands and I would have thought that the world and his wife would have been it.




    Regards


    Arthur

  • Duke's Filmography- Past Discussion (Archive)

    Hi


    I think if you put Tim Lilley's The Big Trail and Fred Landesmans book together after all Fred's was done in collaboration with Tim you will have a pretty comprehensive list.


    I must admit until I read Fred's book I hadn't heard of The Sweetheart of Sigma Chi.


    Incidentaly I came across an article on Google saying that a version of Baby Face had been found in the Library of Congress. The film was considered to have been lost, and it is planned to show it at the November London Film Festival. When the article was placed on the web I don't now so it might be this November or last.


    Some time ago Roland suggested hat trawling through University and Congressional Libraies migt reveal a lost John Wayne film or two, although as I have a reasonable copy of Baby Face taken off of British television a couple of years ago I hadn't considered it to be a lost film, but who knows perhaps The Oregon Trail is out here somewhere.


    Regards



    Arthur