Posts from chester7777 in thread „Duke's Filmography- Past Discussion (Archive)“

Keith,

We agree with you, and have no idea what drove IMDb to make such a decision.

Maybe Les Adams might be able to shed a little light on the subject.

Chester

It seems IMDb has made several changes in their listings of John Wayne's movies and TV appearances (these changes may be across the board, but we haven't checked other performers to see ).

Whereas in the past they had a separate category for TV listings and appearances, now they list many appearances as "Himself" under a category by that name (and that includes quite a few TV appearances). Any place where film clips were used are listed under a category called "Archive Footage" (Desert Command is listed there).

Flashing Spikes (1962), Rookie of the Year (1955), and The Colter Craven Story (1960, a special episode of Wagon Train) all seem to be movie-length (at least an hour long) specials that were on TV, but are listed in the filmography. These were previously listed under "TV Appearances" if I remember correctly. I don't recognize The Dick Powell Show, but I think that falls under the same category as the three others.

Fred Landesman does not list any of these TV films in his filmography, which lists a total of 169 films (IMDb shows 176, but includes the above mentioned). Fred also does NOT list Desert Command in his filmography.

Chester

smokey and Senta,

Thank you so much for your input as to availability of DVD in other regions. We have been real busy lately with some personal business, but as soon as we can, we will incorporate your information into the list.

Chester

ejgreen,

Yikes! Let's get through the Filmography before we start a "TV-ography" !

That would be a great topic to pursue in the future, and you've provided a great start for it.

Regarding Desert Command, when we get to that part of the list, it will be changed.

Thanks, all, for your input.

Chester

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Originally posted by Les Adams@Jul 30 2005, 08:53 PM
1.A Movie is a film that was booked into a theatre and people spent cold cash at the theatre box-office to see.

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So using this definition of "Movie" (which seems perfectly reasonable), it seems that Desert Command could appear as a footnote to the 1933 The Three Musketeers. What would be the best way to deal with this?

IMDb lists it in their filmography for John Wayne, Fred Landesman does not. Fred makes mention of it under the listing for The Three Musketeers, but does not have a separate entry for it.

Of course, The Three Musketeers and Desert Command are quite a ways down the list. Maybe we can concentrate on the beginning of the list for now.

Mrs. C

Keith,

I thought I asked you this question, but I obviously never posted it.

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1928. HAM HAMILTONS COMEDIES- (Fox)

This title is in your list, and I was wondering if you could tell us a little more about it. I couldn't find anything about it on IMDb, and tried Google as well, but didn't really come up with anything.

Thanks!

Mrs. C

ee,

You certainly did include those studios! Thanks for pointing that out - we must have been really tired to not notice it .

Chester

Well, we started fine-tuning the Filmography, and the formatting is a BEAR . Sorry for all the dots, but spaces just don't work in this venue. We'll chip away at it, a little at a time. When all is said done, at least for now, we are using Fred Landesman's Appendix A, Films in Order of Release. Within the body of the book, in the movie descriptions, there is reference to things like Film Daily or Variety reviews, with dates that correspond appropriately to the stated release date.

We'll work as quickly as possible - hopefully, the next time we'll be able to do twenty the next time (but no promises ).

Mrs. C (with Chester doing the background work of looking up the production studio and confirming the dates with references)

( . . . dragging weary bones off to bed . . . )

Just so you all know, Les Adams is one of those "resident experts" to whom I referred in the first post in this thread. With his help, I have made a few minor changes to the list in the Filmography thread. One change was the listing of Wheel of Fortune as an entry for 1941. Les brought it to our attention that Wheel of Fortune was a later re-titled, re-release of A Man Betrayed. There was a spelling correction on one of the titles, and footnoted further information on Desert Command.

We are going to remove the list from the quote box so that we have greater lateral space to add numbering, month (as well as year) of release, studio producing the film, and availability as DVD (and in which regions). We'll be making changes a little at a time (we do have a life outside of the message board ).

Chester

Keith,

For the sake of clarity and to make sure we are "all on the same page," I am assuming that by production date, you mean the time when the movie was made and completed, ready for release. Release date would mean the date when the film was first available to the public for viewing.

Talking about the order in which one may choose to list films, the main part of Fred Landesman's book lists the films in alphabetical order, which makes sense if one wants to read about a particular film, but has no idea when it was released. Appendix A in the back of the book lists the films in order of release (I haven't had a chance to compare it to the list already posted).

Chester

Keith,

The Mrs. and I were discussing this, and think that we could post two lists in the other thread (the closed one), one list by release date (which is a common way to list films), and by production date (which has its merits as well, as you have pointed out). If you want to share your list (by production date), we can move it to the Filmography thread, so it, too, is readily available.

The list that PV shared (by way of jwayne.com) will need some fine tuning, as some have indicated.

What I'm thinking of doing is going and numbering the films in the list, and maybe we could discuss them and fine tune them in groups of twenty at a time (that seems manageable). BTW, do you own Fred Landesman's book?

Arthur, you do own Fred's book. Is it fairly accurate?

Another thought - we could incorporate into the lists the studio that produced each film.

Well, it's pushing midnight in our time zone, and 5 AM comes around pretty quickly, so we aren't going to do anything else with it tonight.

Good night, all!

Chester ( . . . and good night, Mrs. C , wherever you are!)

P.S. She's right next to me !

This thread is for comments and questions regarding the Duke's filmography, a topic which has been pinned for your convenience, but closed so that comments can be separate. Changes to the filmography can be made (by moderators), after consultation with some of our "resident experts" . It is our desire that the information be as factual and accurate as possible, and with all your help, we are sure that will be the case.

A suggestion by ethanedwards was to make information previously posted regarding "missing" films more readily available, which we hope to do (trying to figure out the best way to do that ). We are considering moving pertinent posts into this thread.

Any ideas and suggestions are welcome.

Chester