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  • The Cowboys (1972)

    Quote from JWfan1

    Any discussion threads that have information for filming locations for "The Cowboys"? Would love to eventually visit some of the spectacular vistas used as backdrop settings for the film.....


    Yes we do


    HERE-
    Duke's Movie Locations


    From the top of the thread you will note;-


    Filming Locations
    Bonanza Creek Ranch - 15 Bonanza Creek Lane, Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
    Buckskin Joe Frontier Town & Railway - 1193 Fremont County Road 3A, Canon City, Colorado, USA
    Castle Rock, Colorado, USA
    Chama, New Mexico, USA
    Eaves Movie Ranch - 105 Rancho Alegre Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
    Galisteo, New Mexico, USA
    Laramie Street, Warner Brothers Burbank Studios - 4000 Warner Boulevard, Burbank, California, USA
    Pagosa Springs, Colorado, USA
    San Cristobal Ranch - 90 San Cristobal Ranch Road, Lamy, New Mexico, USA
    Stages 12,18 & 19 Warner Brothers Burbank Studios - 4000 Warner Boulevard, Burbank, California


    Many of the specific locations mentioned above
    have their own dedicated threads
    e.g.


    Duke's Movie Locations- Eaves/ Bonanza Creek Movie Ranches- New Mexico

  • The Cowboys (1972)

    Mike, I agree,
    This is always a problem,
    It's difficult to know, if they're listing the total running time of the DVD
    or the movie running time!!
    However, it seems before this new release, the official view,as we said,
    is a movie time of, 128 mins,

  • The Cowboys (1972)

    Mike thanks,
    Yes it appears, most documentation lists 128 mins,
    although, my old VHS version is 121 mins.
    So if the deleted scene, is as you say,
    it means we all have to suffer Duke dying for 5 minutes longer!!
    Oh dear, I don't know whether, we'll be able to stand that!!!!


    Best Wishes,

  • The Cowboys (1972)

    Hi,
    I have this documentary, and it's very interesting.
    Good shots of Duke, being interviewed.
    It also explains, that half the 'Cowboys' were from
    western, wrangling, type families
    and the other half were actors, brought up in the city.
    The two groups, had to teach other, the respective skills.
    Good interviews with the director.
    Overall a documentary worth seeing.

  • The Cowboys (1972)

    On The Cutting Room Floor


    Shots of Duke. taking a fall off 'Crazy' Alice


    Duke and A. Martinez, while checking the trail ahead,
    encounter a bear.
    The bear was not in the final print!

  • The Cowboys (1972)

    The Cowboys is a 1972 Western motion picture starring Duke,
    Roscoe Lee Browne, Slim Pickens, A Martinez     and Bruce Dern.
    Robert Carradine makes his film debut with fellow child actor Stephen R. Hudis.
    It was filmed at various locations in New Mexico, Colorado
    and at Warner Brothers Studio in Burbank, California.
    Based on the novel by William Dale Jennings, the screenplay
    was written by Irving Ravetch, Harriet Frank, Jr., and Jennings, and directed by Mark Rydell


    Not a great film, but not a bad one either.
    Generally accepted by our members, has being probably the most violent
    of all Duke's films.This apart it would have made a good family film.
    One of few, were Duke gets killed, boo, hoo!!


    Duke now familiar in his mature person role, without love stories,
    he was looking more convincing than ever.
    Now filling the father image role, to perfection, he was looking comfortable,
    in these later films.


    Bruce Dern, was just brilliant as 'Long Hair', and became the most hated man in the world!
    and Roscoe, was fantastic as Jebadiah.
    With fine performances, from Coleen,and all the boys,
    particularly Clay O'Brien, who later went on to star in Cahill


    It made for a very enjoyable film.
    Besides the film opening to poor attendances,
    reviews were favourable,


    Rex Reed, of The New York Daily News wrote,

    Quote

    All the forces that have made John Wayne a dominant ,personality
    as well as a major screen prescence, seem to combine in an unusual way,
    providing him with the best role of his career.


    Old Dusty britches can act


    User Review

  • The Cowboys (1972)

    THE COWBOYS


    DIRECTED BY MARK RYDELL
    PRODUCED BY MARK RYDELL /TIM ZINNERMAN
    MUSIC BY JOHN WILLIAMS
    UNIVERSAL PICTURES


    Photo with the courtesy of Gorch
    INFORMATION FROM IMDb


    Plot Summary
    When his cattle drivers abandon him for the gold fields, rancher Wil Andersen is forced to take on a collection of young boys
    as his drivers in order to get his herd to market in time to avoid financial disaster.
    The boys learn to do a man's job under Andersen's tutelage, however, neither Andersen nor the boys know that a gang of cattle thieves is stalking them.
    Summary written by Jim Beaver


    Full Cast
    John Wayne .... Wil Andersen
    Roscoe Lee Browne .... Jedediah Nightlinger
    Bruce Dern .... Asa Watts (segment "Long Hair")
    Colleen Dewhurst .... Mrs. Kate Collingwood
    Alfred Barker Jr. .... Clyde 'Singing Fats' Potter
    Nicolas Beauvy .... Dan/Four Eyes
    Steve Benedict .... Steve
    Robert Carradine .... Charles 'Slim' Honeycutt
    Norman Howell .... Cowboy #1 (Weedy) (as Norman Howell Jr.)
    Stephen R. Hudis .... Charlie Schwartz (as Stephen Hudis)
    Sean Kelly .... Stuttering Bob Wilson
    A Martinez .... Cimarron
    Clay O'Brien .... Hardy Fimps
    Sam O'Brien .... Jimmy Phillips
    Mike Pyeatt .... Homer Weems
    Slim Pickens .... Anse Petersen
    Lonny Chapman .... Preacher
    Charles Tyner .... Mr. Jenkins
    Sarah Cunningham .... Annie Andersen
    Allyn Ann McLerie .... Ellen Price
    Maggie Costain .... Phoebe
    Matt Clark .... Smiley
    Jerry Gatlin .... Howard
    Walter Scott .... Okay
    Richard Farnsworth .... Henry Williams
    Wallace Brooks .... Red Tucker
    Charise Cullin .... Elizabeth
    Collette Poeppel .... Rosemary
    Norman Howell Sr. .... Jim's father
    Rita Hudis .... Charlie's mother
    Margaret Kelly .... Stuttering Bob's mother
    Larry Randles .... Ben
    Larry Finley .... Jake
    Jim Burk .... Pete
    Fred Brookfield .... Rustler
    Tap Canutt .... Rustler
    Chuck Courtney .... Rustler
    Gary Epper .... Rustler
    Tony Epper .... Rustler
    Kent Hays .... Rustler
    J.R. Randall .... Rustler
    Henry Wills .... Rustler
    Joe Yrigoyen .... Rustler


    Writing Credits
    William Dale Jennings (novel)
    Irving Ravetch (screenplay) &
    Harriet Frank Jr. (screenplay) and
    William Dale Jennings (screenplay)


    Original Music
    John Williams


    Cinematography
    Robert Surtees (director of photography)


    Stunts
    Floyd Baze .... stunt double (uncredited)
    Fred Brookfield .... stunts (uncredited)
    Jim Burk .... stunts (uncredited)
    Tap Canutt .... stunts (uncredited)
    Bill Catching .... stunts (uncredited)
    Chuck Courtney .... stunts (uncredited)
    Gary Epper .... stunts (uncredited)
    Tony Epper .... stunts (uncredited)
    Jerry Gatlin .... stunts (uncredited)
    Kent Hays .... stunts (uncredited)
    Robert 'Buzz' Henry .... stunts (uncredited)
    Walt La Rue .... stunts (uncredited)
    Glenn Randall Jr. .... stunts (uncredited)
    J.R. Randall .... stunts (uncredited)
    Larry Randles .... stunts (uncredited)
    Chuck Roberson .... stunt double: John Wayne (uncredited)
    Chuck Roberson .... stunts (uncredited)
    Walter Scott .... stunts (uncredited)
    Casey Tibbs .... stunts (uncredited)
    Buddy Van Horn .... stunts (uncredited)
    Henry Wills .... stunts (uncredited)
    Walter Wyatt .... stunts (uncredited)
    Joe Yrigoyen .... stunts (uncredited)


    Trivia
    Mark Rydell originally sought George C. Scott for the role of Wil Andersen because he despised John Wayne's views on the Vietnam War and other aspects of U.S. foreign policy. Ironically, some critics in 1972 believed that the way in which Wayne's character drafts the children out of school was a pro-war allegory for Vietnam.


    John Wayne actually pleaded with the director Mark Rydell to allow him to play Wil Anderson.


    Roscoe Lee Browne was urged by his friends not to work with the right-wing John Wayne. He ignored them and the two actors refrained from discussing politics during filming.


    Richard Farnsworth plays a member of Asa Watts's gang, one of the first roles in which his face is actually seen on screen. Farnsworth had been a stuntman and extra since the 1930s.


    The film debut of Robert Carradine.


    The poem read in the school, starting 'Hail to thee blithe spirit/ Bird thou never wert/ ...', is 'To A Skylark' by Percy Bysshe Shelley


    SPOILER: Shortly after the film's release, Bruce Dern received death threats for his character killing John Wayne by shooting him in the back.


    SPOILER: When John Wayne informed Bruce Dern that Dern's character would shoot Wayne's, he told Dern that audiences would hate him for it. Dern responded by saying, "Yeah, but they'll sure love me in Berkeley."


    Goofs
    * Revealing mistakes: After burying Charlie Schwartz, he walks by in the next scene on his horse while Cimmaron and Mr. Anderson talk.


    * Factual errors: On the DVD special features, images of Sarah Cunningham (as Annie Anderson) are used in the "Cast & Crew" information for Colleen Dewhurst.


    * Revealing mistakes: When Mr. Anderson is tying up Crazy Alice for the cowboys to ride, the horse changes from a dark-maned horse to one with a lighter brown mane.


    * Revealing mistakes: When Mr. Anderson is branding the calf during roundup, he only touches the iron to the calf once even though the brand on other livestock clearly shows two distinct O's. Before he brands the calf, one can clearly see that the iron is a single O.


    * Revealing mistakes: It appears that the Double O ranch has two different brands. During roundup and later in the film, the cattle wear a brand of two distinct O's separated by about 12 inches. In the scene before they start the drive, one of the horses appears to have a brand consisting of two Os connected horizontally. This brand should be the same as the brand the cattle wear. In addition, the connected Os might be called a lazy 8.


    * Continuity: In the scene where Anderson sends one of the boys back to find Mr. Nightlinger, Anderson is riding a pale Appaloosa. He rides ahead to talk to another boy, but is now riding a red sorrel.


    * Continuity: In the schoolroom, John Wayne wipes the blackboard with his right jacket sleeve. When he leaves the schoolroom, there is no chalk on his sleeve.


    * Plot holes: When Mr. Andersen is in the school, he puts a mark for Belle Fouche, SD on the board. He states his ranch is here, 400 miles away, and he draws a line headed NW of Belle Fouche. This would place him about Lewistown, MT. It is doubtful that Mr. Andersen would travel 400 miles to Belle Fouche, when Bozeman and Billings are both much closer, and in dire need of beef. The first big herd of cattle didn't come to MT until after the war (1866) so there was no way that they would have taken them east to send them further east.


    Memorable Quotes


    Filming Locations
    Bonanza Creek Ranch - 15 Bonanza Creek Lane, Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
    Buckskin Joe Frontier Town & Railway - 1193 Fremont County Road 3A, Canon City, Colorado, USA
    Castle Rock, Colorado, USA
    Chama, New Mexico, USA
    Eaves Movie Ranch - 105 Rancho Alegre Road, Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA
    Galisteo, New Mexico, USA
    Laramie Street, Warner Brothers Burbank Studios - 4000 Warner Boulevard, Burbank, California, USA
    Pagosa Springs, Colorado, USA
    San Cristobal Ranch - 90 San Cristobal Ranch Road, Lamy, New Mexico, USA
    Stages 12,18 & 19 Warner Brothers Burbank Studios - 4000 Warner Boulevard, Burbank, California


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