Posts from Hawkswill in thread „Winton C. Hoch“
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Harry Carey Jr. said in his book that Hoch did not protest filming in the storm at all. Ford just made that up.
Yes, Dobe did make a mention of that. However, as great as Dobe's book is, he did get a few things mixed up. I laughed out loud and cried in some places. Fantastic book.
It is written in many other places and said in interviews that Hoch protested the shooting at the time. Some say he protested it officially. A few say that he only said he didn't believe there would be enough light for a good transfer. Guess we will never know for sure what was really said, but knowing how Dobie confused a few things in interviews and commentaries, (he was in his seventies when the book was written, I think), it was probably something in between what has been written everywhere. In the book it says Ford asked Hoch what he thought. Hoch said, "It's awfully dark, Jack, but I'll shoot it. I just can't promise anything." I suppose it is possible that he wrote that up to protect himself in case the shoot did not turn out well. But, who really cares? I mean, he did shoot it, it didn't turn out well, it was excellent, and it was a big part of his winning the academy award...or most folks seem to think....I am one of them. And for that one scene, I am most thankful that Pappy Ford was the visionary he was. His expert cameraman didn't think the shot would work, but Pappy did.......and boy was he ever right, as usual. One of his most masterful scenes. Oh, must have missed the part where Dobe said that Ford just made that up. Couldn't find it in the book. KEITH
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Very true, Arthur as shown in She Wore a Yellow Ribbon where Winton Hoch won the Oscar for best color cinematography after vehemently protesting the shooting of the calvary scene marching in a very real lightning and thunderstorm.
John Ford knew his stuff. I imagine that one scene alone, not to mention the many others "manufactured" by Ford to suggest the Remington type paintings, were a major part in Hoch's award. Just hope he realized it wasn't all him. Although with his protest in writing....the rest of us most certainly did, LOL!Display MoreHi Robbie
The cinematographer is responsible for photographing the film. If he is one of the greats like Winton Hoch William Clothier, Bert Glennon and many more he can turn a bad film into a good one with his lighting technique and a good film into a stunning one.
If however you worked for a director like John Ford and you were wise, you tended to do as the director told you without arguement.
Regards
Arthur
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Very true, Arthur as shown in She Wore a Yellow Ribbon where Winton Hoch won the Oscar for best color cinematography after vehemently protesting the shooting of the calvary scene marching in a very real lightning and thunderstorm.
John Ford knew his stuff. I imagine that one scene alone, not to mention the many others "manufactured" by Ford to suggest the Remington type paintings, were a major part in Hoch's award. Just hope he realized it wasn't all him. Although with his protest in writing....the rest of us most certainly did, LOL!Display MoreHi Robbie
The cinematographer is responsible for photographing the film. If he is one of the greats like Winton Hoch William Clothier, Bert Glennon and many more he can turn a bad film into a good one with his lighting technique and a good film into a stunning one.
If however you worked for a director like John Ford and you were wise, you tended to do as the director told you without arguement.
Regards
Arthur
