Duke's Missing And Rare Movies

I am also waiting for my copy of the filmography you mentioned... the table of contents alone has me drooling waiting to see the back sections of the book. I don't think anything will change but I do want a good listing by release date and revenue numbers.

Table of Contents
Acknowledgments..................................................................v
Introduction...........................................................................1
The Films of John Wayne........................................................7
Appendix A....The Films in Order of Release.......................417
Appendix B....Unrealized Films with John Wayne as Star....419
Appendix C....The Biggest Box Office Hits..........................423
Appendix D....The Films Most Popular on Television...........425
Bibliography.......................................................................427
Index..................................................................................435

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I am awaiting a copy of the Fred landesman filmography but I beleive that he does not list the Ham hamilton films but does list the other four?

Elly,
In checking our Fred Landesman filmography,
he does list;
Strong Boy 1929
Lonestar Ranger 1930
Sweetheart of Sigma Chi 1933 (vs 1931)

At least in the alphabetical listing of titles with full details, and in Appendix A (The Films in Order of Release), we didn't find Ham Hamilton's comedies or Women of All Nations. He may make mention of those somewhere, but I haven't encountered that yet (and neither entry is in the index, either).

Let the controversy continue!

Chester

Thanks Chester

I have had this book on order for five months! Amazon keeps pushing bck the delivery date!

So given that the Landesman book mentions 3 of the "Famous Five" or should I say Infamous?

What#s a girl to do? I thought about this and whilst I appreciate that some folks are only interested in movies I am in all of JW work. So I have decided to cal it a "Body of work" and include all movies, (including those where JW is producer) TV, radio and audio. I shall include the five above with notes about the few referecnes i have found.

Then I can sort it alphabetically or by year or by genre.

Making the list is of course the easy part, finding copies of everything on the list has so far taken me the best part of 20 years and there are still big gaps. But it's great fun looking


Elly

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Thanks Chester

I have had this book on order for five months! Amazon keeps pushing bck the delivery date!

So given that the Landesman book mentions 3 of the "Famous Five" or should I say Infamous?

What#s a girl to do? I thought about this and whilst I appreciate that some folks are only interested in movies I am in all of JW work. So I have decided to cal it a "Body of work" and include all movies, (including those where JW is producer) TV, radio and audio. I shall include the five above with notes about the few references i have found.

Then I can sort it alphabetically or by year or by genre.

Making the list is of course the easy part, finding copies of everything on the list has so far taken me the best part of 20 years and there are still big gaps. But it's great fun looking


Elly

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I found the book cheaper on Barnes and Noble... $31.96 And I'm suppose to get it in a couple days. I basically want it for the release order but my list won't change. I spent over an hour last night and went through every book I have that has Duke's filmography in it... some of them don't even have the last dozen or so movies since they came out before Duke passed but even those never mentioned the 5 in question. AFI, NYTimes, UCLA Archive, about 6 books with a filmography, Official JW Site are all the places I checked. If they are listed in this book I'm waiting for it will be the first that lists them.

There are a handful of movies that will never be complete, the UCLA archives show which ones are for instance missing reels and such. Some are in very poor condition. If you ever give up on Amazon try B&N, I know they have it.

hello Everyone

Can I suggest we try to have a "sticky" list of the truly lost or very rare JW films please?

I am talking about the 15 to 20 generally acknowledged as in these categories mostly very early.

I myself have done quite a bit of research on the films and I have notes and references to where it came from.

Always very happy to share with others and make life a bit easier for folks looking for things.

thank you

Elly

Hey guys, I'm new to your forum but I have enjoyed John Wayne Films for over 40 years. I've collected his films and admired his attitude and American Spirit and wish more people had it. It's good to see fans and admirers keeping his memory alive. If anyone is looking for some of his Old and Rare films from the late 20's to late 20's, I have them all on DVD. Except the ones that are lost forever.

Keith, if your interested in Old, Rare Films of John Wayne, I have all of the ones that are not lost forever on DVD. Just thought I would let you know. Thanks, Ron!

Hi All

I noticed as seller on ebay from Australia selling some rare John Wayne movies on DVD.

I forgot to put it on my waych list so I will wait until he surfaces again.

This seller is selling videos at present. If Elly is reading he has a couple of the titles you were after. Men without Women and Bardelays the Magnificent.

Mike

http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZhotshotvideo618

Another seller selling DVDs

http://search.ebay.co.uk/_W0QQsassZcaseykaye

Hi Big Guy 56

Warm Welcome to the Forum. Hope to see you about.

Best

Mike

Also A Warm Welcome. But You Stated You Have Rare Dvd's From The Late 20's To The Late 20's?

Hi Mike

thanks for the tip.

I have both a region free video player and a region free DVD player so no problem for me where in the world things come from.

Will go and check it out now.

Elly

Hi

Might help if you gave us a short list of his real old ones like Noahs Ark Bardelys the Magnificent etc to name just a couple



Regards

Arthur

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Hi Elly,
Your wish is our command!
We already have this thread and discussion,
and you've already taken part in it.
However I have now made it 'sticky'
This topic, has also always been of interest to me.
Hope this helps?

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Hi Keith

I am so impressed at the speed of response, almost before I asked this time.

Please can the LIST be the first thing on the sticky or be sticky on its own with a short comment next to each title as to why it is unavailable eg considered to be "Lost" or only know print in Library of congress etc.

I am very happy to let you have my research notes and references etc.

Thanks again

the Gerodie Pain:teeth_smile:

Elly

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Hey guys, I'm new to your forum but I have enjoyed John Wayne Films for over 40 years. I've collected his films and admired his attitude and American Spirit and wish more people had it. It's good to see fans and admirers keeping his memory alive. If anyone is looking for some of his Old and Rare films from the late 20's to late 20's, I have them all on DVD. Except the ones that are lost forever.

Hi and a warm welcome to you from a recent newbie

I also have been a long time fan and I am very interested in the rare or lost films.

this is my "wanted" list and I suspect that most JW fans have a similar list! I have all of the other films and tons of TV stuff on DVD. I would be very interested in trading with you.

PLEASE, make my year and tell me you have at least one of them 20+ years I have been looking:teeth_smile:

AND today is my darling grand daughters first birthday and she is already a JW fan so she will also get to watch!!

Elly

1937 Adventure’s End
1927 Annie Laurie
1930 Cheer up and Smile
1931 Deceiver, the
1946 Desert Command (Feature film version of Three Musketeers Serial from 1934)
1929 Forward Pass
1931 Girls Demand Excitement
1932 Hollywood Handicap, the
1930 Lone Star Ranger, the
1940 Meet the stars Cowboy Jubilee
1941 Meet the stars number 8 aka Stars Past and Present
1952 Miracle in Motion
1936 Oregon Trail, the
1932 Running Hollywood
1929 Speakeasy
1929 Strong Boy
1933 Sweetheart of Sigma Chi
1932 That’s my Boy
1931 Three Girls Lost
1932 Voice of Hollywood no 13, The
1929 Words and Music

Hi Ellie

As I was one of the original contributers to ths topic in 2005 - was it really that long ago- I would certainly be interested in seeing your research notes.

Fred Landesman's work will be worth the wait it is very good and as an authority he worked in very close collaboration with Tim Lilley even visiting him in Akron from California and used Tim's notes from his Big Trail series.

Hope to hear from you soon

Best Regards

Arthur