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With Dunson returning to Texas hell bent on getting enough men together to get his revenge on Matt. The herd moved on.
Soon they discovered a wagon train under attack by Indians and going to the rescue Matt meets Tess Millay (Joanne Dru) in quite dramatic fashion as watched by Cherry Valance (John Ireland) he remove an arrow from her shoulder.
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Red River (1948)
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Now deeply in love with Tess before resuming his journey with the herd to Abilene Matt gives Tess the bracelet that years before Dunson had given to Fen and had later recovered off of a dead indian.
Days later Dunson catches up with the wagon train and finds out that Matt isn't far in front. Talking to Tess Dunson offers to marry her if she will give him a son. He then notices that she is wearing the bracelett that he gave to Matt.
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As the herd moves on day after day the drovers begin to think that Abilene is a myth, when suddenly they hear a train whistle and then discover railroad tracks. Matt asks the driver the way to Abilene and is told to just follow the tracks.
Finally the herd reach the outskirts of the town where they are met by Melville (Harry Carey sr) the representative of an Illinois Cattle Company, who tells matt to drive the herd straight through the town to the cattle pens.
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The next morning Mellville tells Matt that he will buy the whole herd for top dollar and gives him a cheque made out to Tom Dunson.
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As matt is receiving his payment Dunson true to his word, arrives in Abilene moving slowly he approaches the crowd. Cherry gets in his way and tries to stop Dunson. Drawing he wounds Tom but is also shot and fails to stop Dunson approaching Matt.
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As Dunson approach Matt he dares him to draw and when Matt refuses he starts to hit him, At first Matt refuses to retaliate but finally responds and the two men engage in a fist fight. Tess finally realising that the two men are to fond of each other to kill either one, grabs Simms Reeves (Hank Worden) gun and stops the fight.
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Dunson and Matt both now beaten and dishevelled lean against each other. After getting his breath back Tom tell Matt that he should marry Tess. he also promises that when they get back home he will alter the Red River D brand to include Matt.
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Note the one B&W pic above of Matt & Tess from the message 4/6/07, where she is wearing her undergarments & he has the bullet scar across face; does that mean that scenes shot after the fight?
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Before leaving with the herd Matt came across to Dunson making sure he had enough food to get back to Texas.
"If there's any chance at all we'll get your herd to Abilene."
"You should have let Teeler kill me" said Dunson.
"Because now I'm left alive I'm going to kill you. I'll catch up with you. Every time you turn around expect to see me - because one time you'll turn around and I will be there. Then I'll kill you Matt.
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In relation to that famous speech by Dunson the actual dialogue is as follows:
'Cherry was right your soft. You should have let em kill me because I'm goen kill you, every time you turn around expect to see me, because one time you'll turn around and I'll be there, I'm goen to kill ya Matt.
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If you have never seen this movie, then here is what you are missing.....
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Thanks for the clip, gt. What are the maximum minutes of movie you can post on Youtube? I'm thinking some of our members with rare JW movies could upload them on Youtube, then they could be posted under the respective title in the Movies forum. It would be better to have the whole movie there, if possible.
Chester
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Great Clip GT. Classic Movie Yeah
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"Red River" was One of Duke's Finest Films. Here is a Picture Story that I had Put up Here some time Back but you might like to see it again?
http://www.wyntoontrip.com/REDRIVER1.html
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Is it me or does this ending seem to betray the entire movie?
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Hi Parish,
Thanks for your post,
for the benefit of continuity,
I have merged your post,
into the dedicated 'Red River' thread.
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Thanks and I do see that this is ground already covered here.
The ending, for me kinda diluts the whole movie. John Wayne's brilliant portrayal of a man descending into madness from greed and betrayal is completely diffused by the "awwshucks, love ya man" closer. I thought it would have been better if his obsessions ultimately killed his character. -
Hello Parish,
In the book by Alan Le May, that is exactly how it ended. He died in the charge on the village trying to kill who he thought was little Debbie. You're right, that is the way the story should end, but I guess they wanted to end the movie on a higher note. I recommend the book, it is a great read.
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Thanks for that suggestion, I will look it up at the library . The movie's sudden turn around felt very forced to me. Like they were running out of film and they wanted to wrap it up on a nice note. Why must almost every movie HAVE to have a happy ending? I mean even Disney killed off alot of parents in the beginning of some of their classics so why not try this formula in a mean western!
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Are most JW movies based on prior books?
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Hello Parish,
In the book by Alan Le May, that is exactly how it ended. He died in the charge on the village trying to kill who he thought was little Debbie. You're right, that is the way the story should end, but I guess they wanted to end the movie on a higher note. I recommend the book, it is a great read.
Mark
This is The Searchers you are referring to.
I think Hawks original idea was for John Wayne's character to die in Red River but either he or more likely studio changed the ending.
It is a bit of a cop out but really would you have wanted to leave the cinema with poor John Wayne dead
It is amazing that his best roles apart from playing with octopuses he always ended up dead. The Shootist, The Cowboys, Sands of Iwo Jima and if original stories had been followed he would have died in The Searchers and Red River
Thank the Lord he lived in True Grit although the way the book is written Mattie Ross
is "not long for this world"
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