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    This is not the forum to air out this sorry of crap. Feel free to build a Dean Martin (or any other actors) hate forum. You have gone way beyond passively mentioning it and you clutter up topics with your obsession with anti-Jew and racism about a great deal of actors.

    It was all in Eyman's biography of Wayne.

    In this article Duke reflects on his friendship with Dino, admitting that he would “be a liar if I didn't tell you that I love” Martin, adding: “been my friend for the best years of my life. He’s done for me what he’s done for millions of people all over the world because, like so many of you, I feel good every time I see him. I’m entertained by him, I laugh with him, as well as at him.”:


    https://www.express.co.uk/cele…artin-friendship-film-spt

    Why are we not allowed to say the truth about Dean Martin?

    While seeing an older B&W film colorized is a neat novelty, I find that I prefer the original in most cases. I've seen more bad colorization jobs than good ones. But it really is to each his own. For your sake, I hope they do a high quality colorization one day.


    Mark

    I usually prefer Laurel & Hardy in the original black & white, but sometimes it's nice to watch the colourised versions too.

    I found there is a colourised version on youtube, but it isn't very good quality. It looks more sepia than colour.


    I would love to see a high quality colourised version one day. It's been my favourite western since I was a teenager.

    I think I found what I needed. Turns out that the script was written for John Wayne, according to my research. The original movie was based and L'amour book, but the Grant adapation had John Wayne in mind. Thanks for those that responded.

    It was written for Glenn Ford. Presumably it was rewritten for Wayne. Ford would have fit the role much better as he was a decade younger and more believable as the romantic lead.

    When you see Agar in those bit roles in The Undefeated, Chisum and, Big Jake, he looked old, like he was in his 60's. Yet, he was really only around 50 at the time. I really liked him in those early roles in Sands Of Iwo Jima, Fort Apache and, She Wore A Yellow Ribbon and he did another good war movie back then called Breakthrough and, for me, he seemed to disappear from the screen. I don't remember seeing him in anything else till he did a bit part as Dion O'Bannion in St. Valentines Day Massacre. Again, he looked older than his 46 yrs. But, you look on IMDb, and he did alot of roles in both movies and tv. I must have missed all those because I don't remember them.

    Agar already looked quite a lot older in "Sands of Iwo Jima" compared to "Fort Apache", even though it was only two years later.

    My father thought Agar was wearing a wig in "Big Jake".


    He was in an early episode of "Highway to Heaven". He looked very old there and was playing an alcoholic.

    "Flying Leathernecks" and "They Were Expendable" were each very good with a minimum of fake heroics. Add to that "Sands of Iwo Jima".


    Pretty much all war films have to be looked at in consideration of the era they were produced. Many WWII films were either thinly veiled or outright propaganda for the home front. That doesn't mean they weren't good films...you simply have to take into consideration the message being given. Two very good examples..."Air Force" and "The 49th Parallel"...the former American...the latter British produced. Each is a fine film in its own right but both were pushing the propaganda angle to maintain public support.


    Most of the better war films...that is more realistic about war and its costs with less fake heroics...came either late in the war or were filmed post-war..."12 O'Clock High"..."The Best Years of Their Lives"..."Battleground".

    I found "The Fighting Seebees" hard to watch due to its blatant racism. Fortunately by the time "The Flying Leathernecks" was made in 1950-51 the United States was at war with China, and so the portrayal of the Japanese was far more balanced.


    Of the old war films I liked "The Cruel Sea" most as it did not contain any propaganda or false heroics.

    "The Horse Soldiers" was basically a good movie but could have done without the insipid love story...not realistic at all. Otherwise good performances and stuck pretty close to history in many ways even if fictionalized. It was a tragedy about Fred Kennedy's death...it was to be his last gag before retiring supposedly. John Ford pretty much lost interest in the movie after that occurred.

    There was no way the soldiers would have let the two women live.