I don't know about the rest of this board's posters but I for one am getting tired of these interminable solicitations to buy bricks. Hell, I'd rather just get a direct plea for donations from the birthplace/museum.
JWMB sponsors a Walk Of Fame block
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Actually, Stumpy, it was at the request of the birthplace museum that we updated the post to reflect the most recent program. This message board will not be collecting funds, any transactions would be between each person and the JW Birthplace.
Let's face it, this place certainly would represent a receptive audience, and has a world-wide reach, and doesn't cost a thing to the birthplace in terms of advertising or mailing costs. There may have been members who didn't participate in our Tribute Block drive for whatever reason, and this is a chance for anyone who wishes, to be involved in the building of the new Museum and Learning Center.
There is no pressure here, we are just passing on the information.
Chester
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It looks like I could be caught in the middle here as I can see both sides of the arguement.
I agree with Stumpy that the buying of the Alamo was a magnificent example of like minded people working together with a common cause, and a successful conclusion.
But now is the time to let it rest until perhaps someone with a camera takes a photograph of the brick in place and gives a fitting amen to it.
As for the latest appeal while it is not my personal wish to buy a brick coming after the other effort, the fact that Kevin and Chester have raised it is another matter. Perhaps I am reading too much into this perhaps not but I think it is important to pass on the fact that bricks are available for the reason that this is a request from the John Wayne board or whatever they call themselves.
For various reasons I feel that the lines differences or whatever are getting more and more faint as we all come together to what after all is a common cause. There is room enough in the world for all supporters, fans and officials of John Wayne to come together and the fact that this board has the world wide appeal it has is making a significant difference.
if this sounds that as a moderator I am appealling for moderation or sitting on the fence then I apologize, but I see this as part of my role, and as a moderator I certainly do not mean to cause offence.
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It looks like I could be caught in the middle here as I can see both sides of the argument.
I don't think there's any argument here.QuoteI agree with Stumpy that the buying of the Alamo was a magnificent example of like minded people working together with a common cause, and a successful conclusion.
I couldn't agree more with both of you.
QuoteBut now is the time to let it rest until perhaps someone with a camera takes a photograph of the brick in place and gives a fitting amen to it.
As for the latest appeal while it is not my personal wish to buy a brick coming after the other effort . . .Initially, I felt the same way, as we had busted our rears making the Alamo tile happen. But then I realized that many newer members may not have had the opportunity to help out the new museum. We are not specifically asking anyone to buy anything. All we were doing was passing on current information, about the latest opportunity to have a brick on the walkway to the original birthplace, more immediately.
Quote. . . the fact that Kevin and Chester have raised it is another matter. Perhaps I am reading too much into this perhaps not but I think it is important to pass on the fact that bricks are available for the reason that this is a request from the John Wayne board or whatever they call themselves.
The request was from the John Wayne birthplace/museum. We were simply passing on the information.
QuoteFor various reasons I feel that the lines differences or whatever are getting more and more faint as we all come together to what after all is a common cause. There is room enough in the world for all supporters, fans and officials of John Wayne to come together and the fact that this board has the world wide appeal it has is making a significant difference.
if this sounds that as a moderator I am appealling for moderation or sitting on the fence then I apologize, but I see this as part of my role, and as a moderator I certainly do not mean to cause offence.Arthur, you are doing an outstanding job as moderator! I, for one, take no offence. I realize the goal is bigger than all of us, and a worthy one.
One more time - we were simply imparting information. NO pressure was intended, and if it felt that way to anyone, we apologize.
Chester
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Like most such institutions, the birthplace/museum will need funding. Funds to hire people who work there in one capacity or another, funds to pay the utility bills, and so on and so forth. (There ain't a doubt in my military mind that somebody could pry money out of the government for such expenses, since they are always ready to spend our money for one pork barrel or another. But IMO that would fly in the face of everything the Duke stood for and that conservatives, like me for instance, find abominable.)
Therefore, I'd like to offer a suggestion. Why don't one of you moderators, or Kevin, contact whoever runs the Winterset operation, and suggest that folks who love and respect the Duke, and who want to support the birthplace museum, contribute money regularly, such as monthly or annually (or even when they can afford it.) And as each person's amount reaches cumulative milestones, such as $250., $500., $1000., then that individual is recognized in some way, such as the titles used on the board, or by issuance of certificates signed by one of the Wayne kids, or by the head honcho at the museum. I think the museum should post a list of contributors online, together with the amounts they've contributed, so we can see who's serious about our cause, and who ain't. -
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That idea has a lot of sense. In the museum that I work for as a volunteer somehing similar is in being, as its a maritime museum the people who give money are called admirals or commodores (to be one of those you have to contribute £100s of 1000s) but the idea has merit.
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Stumpy, I've forwarded your suggestions on to the appropriate people - thanks!!
For all - I thought you might appreciate this photo of Bill of PA (left) with Brian Downes (Executive Director of the Birthplace of John Wayne, right), after our donation was made to the new museum.
Bill's been trying to get this picture to me for a couple of weeks, but we've had some computer glitches that seemed almost insurmountable. But thanks to his friend Joe "Zuke" (a board member at the birthplace), we finally got the picture. Thanks to JWMB member Wayne (who also works in an official capacity at the birthplace) for taking the photo.
Chester
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Yay, the photo!!
As to the recent post about the museum small block program, it was posted in an effort to help the museum. DukeWayne.com will offer any help it can to the birth place in it efforts to get this project realized.
That post was placed to let members know that the museum had other options for supporting the effort. In the future there maybe advertising placed here to direct people to the museum.
We are not attempting to pressure anyone to buy one, it is simply a post. Feel free to PM me directly with any concerns you may have about this, and I would be happy to work thru them with you.
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We are not attempting to pressure anyone to buy one, it is simply a post. Feel free to PM me directly with any concerns you may have about this, and I would be happy to work thru them with you.
Just so you'll know, Kevin, my remark was not intended as criticism of you personally nor any of the moderators. It was just one of my often blunt and tactless comments about developments on the board.
You've seen enough of my posts to know that I usually say whatever pops into my head, without thinking about how others may view those remarks. If I've offended you or anyone else, I apologize. -
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Don't change just continue in your normal way we know and like you for it.
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Hi Jim
Don't change just continue in your normal way we know and like you for it.
regards
Arthur
Thanks very much for your understanding comment, Art.
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Thanks very much for your understanding comment, Art.
Like they say, you can't teach an old dog new tricks.
From one old man to another, I'd have to beg to differ. Look at us, using a computer and doing all sorts of things. I can't tell you how many of my friends never use a computer for anything, and have no desire to do so. Or a few who barely know how to do email and that's the extent of their knowledge.Let's face it - computers were not in common use 20 years ago, and you and I sit in front of one every day. I'd say you CAN teach an old dog new tricks!
Chester
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From one old man to another, I'd have to beg to differ. Look at us, using a computer and doing all sorts of things. I can't tell you how many of my friends never use a computer for anything, and have no desire to do so. Or a few who barely know how to do email and that's the extent of their knowledge.
Let's face it - computers were not in common use 20 years ago, and you and I sit in front of one every day. I'd say you CAN teach an old dog new tricks!
Chester
But in my case, Jim, it's not really a case of new tricks. I've been using a personal computer since around 1984, which is about 24 years. Now I'll admit, I've only been surfing the net since around 1996 but began using computers at least 12 years before that to compose correspondence, organize various household files, etc. And in fact, I learned the basics of computer use in the early Seventies, while assigned to Headquarters, U.S. European Command at Patch Barracks, Stuttgart, Germany. -
For all - I thought you might appreciate this photo of Bill of PA (left) with Brian Downes (Executive Director of the Birthplace of John Wayne, right), after our donation was made to the new museum.
Bill's been trying to get this picture to me for a couple of weeks, but we've had some computer glitches that seemed almost insurmountable. But thanks to his friend Joe "Zuke" (a board member at the birthplace), we finally got the picture. Thanks to JWMB member Wayne (who also works in an official capacity at the birthplace) for taking the photo.
Just thought I'd get this thread back on topic . . . sorry 'bout that, folks. -
Actually, Carolyn took the photo. Bill had asked me to do so, but later told me she had already taken it. That's part of the reason it took awhile to get it sent.
The bricks in the walkway was a new idea completely independent of the dukewayne.com's Alamo granite block. We were just letting members of the board know about this new option, that's all.
Wayne Davis
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Actually, Carolyn took the photo. Bill had asked me to do so, but later told me she had already taken it. That's part of the reason it took awhile to get it sent.
Wayne, thanks for the clarification, and thanks to Carolyn for taking the picture! It looks great!Chester
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[quote='chester7777','http://dukewayne.com/bb/index.php?thread/&postID=69520#post69520']Wayne, thanks for the clarification, and thanks to Carolyn for taking the picture! It looks great!
Chester I know it has been been a while but how can you say it looks great with my ugly mug? -
Howdy everyone!
I realize I'm a 'newbie' here and I hope I'm not overstepping my bounds by posting a new thread, but I've spent a great deal of time the last few weeks scanning the Internet visiting John Wayne sites, and by far this seems to be THE place to be for dedicated John Wayne enthusiasts.
There are a lot of threads here decrying the lack of a museum devoted to John Wayne, a lot of people wondering why one does not exist and discussing how to get one going. Some like Chillbill are doing their very best and seem to be spending a lot of effort but not making much progress. Getting a genuine museum built is a very difficult and expensive process, and requires the efforts of a lot of dedicated people.
A John Wayne museum is indeed in the works (and has been for several years) here in Winterset, Iowa, adjacent to the Duke's birthplace home. I'm on the Birthplace board and we have plans for an 8,500 square foot state-of-the-art, world-class museum devoted to honoring the great legacy of John Wayne. The Wayne family HAS committed to giving us a larger than life size statue of Wayne and to donate and/or loan many of Wayne's items for the museum. The museum will include a 50-seat theatre, interactive video displays and a learning center. This will not just be dusty rooms with a few artifacts in display cases, but an exciting, stimulating environment for people to learn about John Wayne through his life and his films, and to ensure that future generations come to know and understand the qualities for which he stood. You'll find information about the plans for the museum at http://www.johnwaynebirthplace.org/museum.html.
We've been in the fundraising process now for a year. The City of Winterset, Madison County and the local banks have all made siginifcant committments, and we are actively seeking the support of corporate donors. You would think businesses would jump at the chance to support a John Wayne museum but such is not the case. Our fundraisers tell us there is always reluctance until some firm comes on board with a major ($100,000+) commitment. After that it is much easier to get funding from more organizations ("Oh, well--if Wells Fargo is supporting the museum I guess we can too"). Our hope was to have Ethan Wayne turn the first shovel for the groundbreaking this May 26th on Wayne's 100th birthday, but we were told at the board meeting last night not to expect that. It appears there won't be sufficient funding in place by that date to be certain we can go ahead with our plans. Instead we were told we should just be promoting Ethan unveiling the statue.
Frankly, I am frustrated as hell. What could be a more perfect time to have the groundbreaking than on Wayne's 100th birthday? Ethan will be here regardless, and we're having a real shoot-em-up celebration for the birthday as well (see http://www.johnwaynebirthplace.org/centennial) but the publicity and editorial stories this groundbreaking would generate worldwide would be an enormous boost for the museum. I HATE to see this fantastic opportunity wasted!
So why am I posting this? I'm hoping to be able to generate some grassroots support from those of us who love John Wayne. If you have any contacts at firms who would be likely to contribute, talk to them and/or let me know. You may be a customer of a company that would be interested--write a letter to the president. Tell your friends and family, contact your local newspaper or TV or radio stations. Anything you can think of to help spread the word and generate publicity and interest will make it much easier for companies to justify donating to help make the John Wayne museum happen. Right now we're just this little town in the Midwest, so it's often difficult to even get our foot in the door. But the more widely this is known, the more people know about the museum, the more likely companies will be to listen and/or contribute. There's John Wayne fans worldwide here, and each one of us can multiply the impact we have many times over if we work together.
Don't just complain that there's no museum devoted to John Wayne, DO something to make it happen! Can we utilize the power and reach of the legions of the Duke's fans here on the Internet to make a difference? It sure would be fun to try and see what we can accomplish!
Feel free to contact me at [email protected]. Thank you for reading this, and hopefully joining in. Think how great you'll feel knowing YOUR efforts helped make it possible!
Wayne Davis
The Birthplace of John Wayne
http://www.johnwaynebirthplace.org
My purpose here is three-fold. (1) I wanted to bring back Wayne Davis' post from Febuary 2007 about the vision for the planned John Wayne Birthplace Museum and Learning Center, (2) bring to the attention of our newer members what members of this message board have done, together, to help that goal along, by pooling our resources to purchase one of the $1500 bricks on the Walk of Fame, and (3) make those same newer members aware of ways they, too, can be involved in furthering the goal of building the museum and learning center in Winterset, Iowa, to honor John Wayne! I encourage folks to read this thread from the beginning to appreciate the length and breadth of what we did.
I'm proud to be part of this wonderful group of John Wayne fans!
Chester