Duke's Deleted Scenes and Missing Footage

Hey Robbie,

Welcome to the board. This is a good question. I don't have all of the Duke's movies on DVD, but the ones I do have, do not have deleted scenes. That includes:

The Searchers
The Quiet Man
The Shootist
Stagecoach
The War Wagon
Donovan's Reef
The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
True Grit
The Alamo
Sands of Iwo Jima
The Longest Day
She Wore A Yellow RIbbon
Rio Grande
Rio Bravo
Sons Of Katie Elder
The Horse Soldiers
Hellfighters
A Lady Takes A Chance
Hatari!
The Green Berets
Red River

The Greatest Story Ever Told does have deleted scenes, but Duke makes a brief appearence in that movie.

Maybe someone can tell you about the other moives.

Hondo

Robbie:

A very good question, but unfortunately in the days of Duke's films, they really did'nt keep the cut scenes. This is very unfortunate for in the movies Duke made with Ford, these scenes that were edited or cut would have probably made some lesser directors careers. I think it would have been very interesting and marketable to have collected those scenes and included them in a special edition video or dvd.

Ethan

The trailers are a good source to find deleted scenes and sometimes other camera angles because most often they had the trailers in the theaters when they were still fine tuning the cut of the picture.
In the Back to Bataan trailer there's another angle of the stunt in which JW gets blown out of his bomb shelter.
In the Trouble Along the Way trailer there's another angle of John punching his opponent through a window.
Lots of deleted scenes in the Longest Day trailer: Missing scenes with Paul Anka and Jean-Louis Barrault and the scene with JW and Robert Ryan is cut differently. Also cut was the scene in which Irina Demich gets back to that wine cellar after successfully blowing up the train only to find her comrades murdered. Then she's picked up by some nasty Gestapo fellas. It was shot - there are photos in a tie-in for the movie, and Demich's portrait they used for the poster was taken from that scene - yet I have never seen it anywhere.

Hi Robbie,
yep, there are some shots in The Searches trailer which weren't used. Sometimes they might also film additional scenes to promote the film, like for the Trailer of The War Wagon or for Rio Bravo, or an introduction like for The Barbarian and the Geisha.
Where to find deleted scenes? I wish I knew. You mean where the original material might be? They're either stored somewhere with the studios (must look somehow like that last scene of Raiders of the Lost Arc - they would never find them again themeselves, even if they still had them) or already detoriated, because the original material on 35mm won't stay with us forever.

Hi, one movie I do have on dvd that added in a few deleted scenes was in the movie Big Jake. Ones that I noticed that were added was after their ambush by Fein and they were at their campsite and at night when the Duke notices that his son (Patrick) was limping. It turned out he was hit in the ashcan with buckshot.

The Duke tells him to drop his pants who also refuses until the Dog growls. Next you then see him cutting out the buckshot. Also, the Duke also uses a variation on a curseword from Bas.... to Bustard. I thought that was good to hear instead of the real curseword.

TRK.

Yep, but that scene always was in the theatrical version shown in cinemas, it was sometimes cut for television.

TRK,

I assume that you are talking about these deleted scenes were in the movie and not in a deleted section on the DVD. Right? I have the DVD, but don't remember seeing a special feature on Deleted Scenes.

Cheers B)

I don't have any specific details for you but seeing that they are releasing a 2 disc special Edition of "The Searchers", you may get your wish as far as deleted scenes go. Oh and "Stagecoach" as well.

Speaking of missing footage, I've recently watched "HONDO" for the first time in years the other day, and I swear that part of the final battle is missing. After the battle Hondo gives Lenny (the James Arness character) his rifle because as Ward Bond says, "He shot that Indian off your back". That's part is in the DVD.

But, I remember, watching the movie when I was a kid, and I remember the scene where Lenny saves Hondo from being stabbed by an attacking Apache; it's a close up of Arness firing Hondo's rifle saving Hondo's life. That part of the battle scene is not in the DVD.

Anyone else remember that scene?

What would be really cool would be if someone found Duke's original five hour cut of THE ALAMO!! B)

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Originally posted by Robbie@Mar 27 2006, 06:17 AM
I didn't know the uncut original of the Alamo was 5 hours, I thought the original was located weighing in at 3hrs 13 mins.

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The 3hr 13 min version was the longest version release to the public. The 5 hour cut was Duke's original cut that was only shown to UA executives. The chances that it still exist is almost nill. Then again that is what we said about the 3 and a 1/4 hour version.

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Originally posted by ZACK613@Mar 27 2006, 03:11 PM
The 3hr 13 min version was the longest version release to the public. The 5 hour cut was Duke's original cut that was only shown to UA executives. The chances that it still exist is almost nill. Then again that is what we said about the 3 and a 1/4 hour version.

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That's correct. The 3 hour, 13 minute version is the one shown at the premiere and for some weeks thereafter here in San Antonio. No lengthier version was ever seen by the public.
Cheers - Jay