The Quiet Man (1952)

Yes it is. The man (in America) that owns it. Wants to restore it so people can sleep in the Cottage. I don't know if it ever happened.

I hope to show how it was built for the film...I did talk to one of John Ford's family members in Ireland. He said (john ford's) Father's Cottage is still there on their land.

I was thinking about my favorite movie last night and wondering if anyone ever came up with a translation for the Gaelic dialogue in the movie.

I'm particularly interested in the conversation between Mary Kate and Fr. Lonergan.

Would any of our friends over in Ireland be able to translate it?

Hi Tbone,

I believe this has already been discussed in this thread.
We have a member called lenrehn,
whi is very knowledgable on all matters relating to this film.
If you care to check his posts, I think he's mentioned it.

Tbone,

Here's one post mentioning this:-

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Here comes a short quote from CNN Larry King Live 2, an interview with Maureen O'Hara. Aired January 2, 2003 - 21:00 ET. That is not a really answer about what she was whispering to Wayne but that is maybe so close you may come.

KING: Tell me about these commentaries you've been doing for some DVD editions of films. They release a DVD and you appear on it to talk about it, John Wayne kind of movies?
O'HARA: Yes. There's one on "Rio Grande," which was the movie we did to raise the money to make "The Quiet Man," because we couldn't get finance. I think I have told you this before. And also on "The Quiet Man." So there's two DVDs out now. They're pretty good.
KING: I want to talk about John Wayne. We understand you're going to tell us something that you didn't tell us last time about what you whispered to him.
O'HARA: Oh, not on your life.
KING: You're not going to tell it now.
O'HARA: No. Never, never, never.
KING: Last scene of "The Quiet Man" Maureen's character whispers something in the ear of John Wayne's character. Whatever she said apparently shocked Wayne because his head jerked back and his eyes grows wide with disbelief. Wayne never told anyone what she said and John Ford the director never did either.
O'HARA: That was the deal. When John Ford said you are to say so and so To Wayne, I said, what? Me? No way. And he said, you're being ordered to do it. You do it. And I realized it was nothing I could do. When you try to battle with John Ford, you have to give in. And I said, well there's one stipulation. That you will never tell anybody what it is that you demanded that I say. And, John Wayne will never tell. And the three of us made the deal.
KING: So it was (UNINTELLIGIBLE) to what you are. One can imagine it was sexual or cursing or both?
O'HARA: Little bit of both.
KING: And Wayne did not know you were going to say it?
O'HARA: No. Didn't you see the look on his face when he turns around.
KING: That's one of the most famous endings of movies ever, right. So that must have been the question asked of you. That movie was such a big hit.
O'HARA: Everybody asks me. Even my lawyer in New York asked me the day before yesterday. I said I'm tired telling you, never. Duke is dead.
KING: Was it nervous for you to say it?
O'HARA: It was awful. I hated it.
KING: Did you only have to say it once?
O'HARA: Only once. Not twice. Well, you wouldn't get the reaction.

Len

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I think Tbone is talking about the scene where Mary Kate talks to Father Lonergan by the stream while he is fishing. She wants to tell him about the troubles she is having with Sean but feels more comfortable speaking in Gaelic. Like Tbone, I myself have wondered what the translation would be to what she tells him. Any of our members from across the sea who speak or understand Gaelic care to translate, if possible?

Mark

That's right Mark. That is the primary scene I'm interested in. There are other Irish quips throughout the movie too. For example, I think Barry Fitzgerald is using an Irish term for matchmaker in the scene with Mary Kate where he comes to talk with her about the match making and is a bit tipsy. But I'm not sure what he's saying there.

As to what Maureen said to Duke, I have to admit I've even slowed the movie down and expanded the image and I still can't tell what she said. Unless someone is really good at reading lips from the side, I don't think we'll ever know what exactly was said, but based on Duke's reaction and Maureen's acknowledgement, we can probably imagine pretty well.

Thanks,

Hi all
I can’t tell you what Mary Kate Danaher are telling to Father Lonergan with the stream but both Bryan Varnam and I are members in The Quiet Man Movie Club and there is an member who is living in Ireland and maybe he can Gaelic so I put in a question about that in the club and maybe I will have an answer from him. You can go to Bryan’s home site if you like http://www.bryanvarnam.com/ there you can buy his painting The Whisper.
Len

Thanks lenrehn!

Bryan's quite an artist. Thanks for the link to his paintings.

Hi all
I got an answer from him but that is not straight line word by word when I think he is an Protestant when that is the Catholic people who is talking Gaelic (Irish).
Hi Len, what Mary Kate is telling Father Lonergan, is that since the wedding, Sean has been sleeping in a sleeping bag and not in their wedding bed. Which in Ireland back in those days was a mortal sin and a poor reflection of the wife's attractions. I'm sure you remember the scene the morning after the wedding when Hugh Forbes and friends come to the cottage with her furniture and she tells Sean` Don't be shaming me in front of your friends`… Noel.
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Thanks lenrehn!

Hi all The Quiet Man Maniac’s.
I like to give you a quote from The Quiet Man Movie Club.
The restoration of Pat Cohan is now nearing completion and visitors to Cong village will soon be able to stop in a have a ”pint of the black beer” just like Sean Thornton and Will Danaher did at the end of their epic fight.
The official opening date will be 17th September 2008.
You may have more information on http://www.quietmanmovieclub.com/
Len

That would be so cool to be able to amble up to the bar and have a black beer at Cohan's. It would be just like stepping into the movie itself, if just for a brief second. Thanks for sharing that news, lenrehn. It's a crime I live on a different continent, as I would love to see it in person.

Mark

I'll have to give Emmanuel a call,
and meet you all there for a pint.
Great news, and I'm sure ti will be great success.

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That would be so cool to be able to amble up to the bar and have a black beer at Cohan's. It would be just like stepping into the movie itself, if just for a brief second. Thanks for sharing that news, lenrehn. It's a crime I live on a different continent, as I would love to see it in person.

Mark

I am with you Mark...... I can only hope that someday I can visit these places......

Wow, great news! So will they call it "Cohan's" hard "H" or "Cohan's" Silent "H"?

Hi Tbone
They call it "Co-han" with hard "H"
Len

Is there a possibility that a few of our UK members (I think we have close to a dozen active members) might be meeting there for the grand opening? If so, PLEASE take a picture for the rest of us. Wish I could be there, to raise a pint to Duke!

Thanks, lenrehn, for letting us know about this.

Chester

Bryan Varnam and I are waiting on interior photographs from the bar by a member in The Quiet Man Movie Club but I don’t know when or if we will get them yet.
Len

Hi all
Here is litle news from Pat Cohan Bar
http://www.patcohan.com/
Len

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Hi all
Here is litle news from Pat Cohan Bar
http://www.patcohan.com/
Len

Hi Len, Great post and information,
Thanks for your continued support of this dedicated thread.
I'm sure we would really appreciate, if you could also
post this and any other location information
on our
Duke's Movie Locations- Ireland
I would be most grateful for your input on that thread