Just Plain Joes: RIP Service Men & Women

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  • This thread has been started with Keith's permission, in response to posts on other threads about the military, and remembering/honoring them.

    I would like to start this "day-after-veteran's day" thread with a post honoring several veterans that never made it to the headlines for their actions (although in some cases, should have!), but should be honored/remembered by all of us.

    My dad: Byrl Payton Adkisson Sr. He went into the US Navy at the height of WWII, the day AFTER D-Day in Europe (June 7, 1944). He went to bootcamp in San Diego, and came OUT of bootcamp as a Seaman First Class/Petty Offiicer. One of only 5 men (out of nearly 200) in his class to have a "right shoulder rating." BTW - this right shoulder rating was abolished in 1949.

    He served his ENTIRE time on the USS Jerauld (APA-174), starting with the sea trials in November of 1944 in Astoria, OR, and ending on June 1, 1946. In that time, he saw action on Saipan, mop-up at Iwo Jima, and was there at the beginning of the heavy fighting on Okinawa.

    He piloted a Higgins Boat, which meant he took marines FROM the main ship, and took them either right ON the beach to disembark, or just a few yards out. He then took the dead and wounded to the Hospital ship.

    At Okinawa (it took me YEARS to get this out of him. He HATED talking about combat issues), he was under constant attack while operating the Higgins, and since this was the last island before the mainland, kamikaze attacks were DAILY, and carried out by numerous "Sons of Nippon."

    He was (obviously) a boatswain's mate, and since the beginning of bootcamp, had been on the "boat crew." He was tabbed for this, as he grew up along the Clinch River here in East Tennessee (Clinton), and after Norris Dam went in in 1936 (First dam constucted under the new "TVA"), he, his younger brother, and step-dad (more on him later - he fought with Alvin York) spent many, MANY hours on that like, and dad was a natural piloting a boat.

    I remember when I was in my early teens and we were watching "They Were Expendable" on the late show, I asked him if he "drove" a PT boat, and he said no, that he drove something a bit smaller, but just as important. he then said (with his dry wit) that PT boats were only for future presidents to operate....and sink!!!

    He was, of course, joking, and went on to explain about both Higgins Boats AND PT Boats, and what a hero JFK was.

    Before he went to war, he work in the motor-pool of the new "Clinton Engineering Works," or as it was named: Oak Ridge, TN, the site (unknown to all but a few until the day the bomb was dropped) of significant importance in the Manhattan Project.

    I'll share more in the coming days, as there is a lot TO share, and more men and women to talk about.

    Keith, Kevin, and Jim...THANKS for letting me start this thread. It's hard to see what i'm typing with my eyes full of grateful tears for my dad, all veterans, and you guys...

  • Thanks for posting this Russ.
    A lovely and insightful post relating to your Dad.
    You must be immensely proud,
    as I am sure we all are of our parents,
    relatives and friends, that served in the armed forces.

    Best Wishes
    Keith
    London- England

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  • Thats a great story and thanks for posting it. Heck, my Uncle Herbert might have been one of the men in his Higgens boat ;-))

    Es Ist Verboten Mit Gefangenen In Einzelhaft Zu Sprechen..

  • There's a bit more on dad that I want to share, but my uncle Leo Braden (Sgt. US Army) fought with Patton in Europe, and earned a purple heart in the Sicily campaign.


    He was set to go ashore on D-Day, but was held back the night before by the Dr., as he had a bad case of "Mumps." we all believe that this childhood disease saved his life.

  • Great post, Russ. Thanks for letting us in on it. Your Dad and those from his era surely were The Greatest Generation.


    Mark

    "I couldn't go to sleep at night if the director didn't call 'cut'. "

  • OK...more on my dad's step-dad.

    He was Jerry Morris Taylor, and he was born and rasied in the "New River" section of Anderson County, TN. For those of you not familiar with this area, this county is the home of Norris Dam - first dam of the newly formed TVA, built from 1933-1936 - and also, most notably, the "Secret City" of Oak Ridge, built out of Black Oak Ridge, and Bear Creek Valley.

    New River is tucked WAY, way up and back in "the hills," close to three other counties, and the people there were/are still distrustful of the outside world, and were VERY self-sufficient. Music was/is a large part of the culture (Welsh, Scots-Irish, German, Irish, and Scotish), and my grandfather was a MASTER of anything with strings on it.

    He was born on November 11, 1898 (his die was already cast...), and grew into a large, raw-boned country boy that liked to "fit," carouse, and chase women. That sounds like another Tennesseean we all know and love (more on him later).

    Anyway, he was drafted, went to war in Europe in "The Great War," and fought in the All-American Division (do you see a pattern yet?!?!). He KNEW Alvin York, or at least, had MET him a few times.

    I don't know the name of the battle, or even what part of France it occured, but he was shot in the face (his cheek), and the bullet exited right at the temple. Needless to say, he lost the eye on the side the bullet exited, and took a LONG time to recover.

    When he came home, he worked in the mines for a little while (nearly all men and boys did then), worked lumber mills, and in addition to being a "prodigy" on the guitar, banjo ("banjer," according to him), and mandolin, he bacame an expert angler...according to him!

    He played with a group from Clinton, Tennessee on one of the first "Grand 'Ol Opry" broadcasts, and toured part of the country on and off with them.

    By the time I came around (in '61), he was turning into a bitter old man. Don't get me wrong, I LOVED him (we called him "Pa," pronounced "paw" in southernese), but he was sick, starting to get feeble by the early '70's, and angry about Alvin York getting all the credit (at least in his mind) that he should've shared in.

    He wasn't IN the battle where York made his mark, but my grandfather (even though he wasn't really, but we thought of him that way) felt a connection to him (see Sgt. York, and you'll understand why), and I suppose felt cheated he never got the recognition he deserved.

    You have to remember that WWI vets weren't always treated well, and the old Veteren's Affairs group in Washington BLED THEM DRY with regard to pensions and benefits.

    I've got lots of stories about him, but my memory of him most is watching me play army, and remarking (to no-one in particular): "That blankety-blank Alvin York never done NONE of that stuff they said he done..." But after I would come in, he would regale me with stories of Alvin York's heroism, and talk about how everyone in Tennessee, and the entire COUNTRY, should thank God for him...

    This is an interesting read about coal mine disasters in Anderson County...very close to one another, and of the "Coal Creek War" that was waged in the 1890's over convict coal miners.

    I don't add these to start a discussion, just for you further edification.
    Coal Creek War: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coal_Creek_War

    Fraterville Mine Explosion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraterville_Mine_disaster

    Cross Mountain Mine Explosion: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cross_Mountain_Mine_disaster

  • Here are the names of the Army Sergeants who died in the train-float accident during a parade they were part of.


    All of them were Army Sergeants:


    Sgt. Joshua Michael--34. He died saving his wife.
    Sgt.Maj. Gary Stouffer-37--died saving his wife.
    Sgt.Maj. Lawrence Boivin-47.
    Sgt.Maj. William Lubbers--43.


    Rest in Peace Sergeants: :(


    This happened during a parade honoring our vets and the float that was hit was carrying around 20 Wounded vets and their wives. This happened in Midland, Texas.


    Photo of two I found:

    Es Ist Verboten Mit Gefangenen In Einzelhaft Zu Sprechen..

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  • Soon as I can, ill be nabbing more of these that I put on another web site. I have not many but--some are great reads that I wrote and or nabbed info from other sources.

    Es Ist Verboten Mit Gefangenen In Einzelhaft Zu Sprechen..

  • Thank you T/ and soon as I can get my info on this Gent? ill post his stuff too. H ewas a Sergeant in the Army in WWI--and because of being Jewish--the family believes he was not awarded a Medal of Honor--and knowing how they thought back then--I can see that being a huge possibility. Anyway, his name is: William T. Shemin. He himself--was happy to get the Distinguished Service Cross and never held not getting the MoH against his superiors.

    Es Ist Verboten Mit Gefangenen In Einzelhaft Zu Sprechen..

  • Carl, call me Russ! All my friends do!


    My mom's grandfather (my great grandfather) was Charles (Karl) William Stocks. He was born in NYC in 1878 to full-blooded German parents. They went back to Germany for a few years when he was a child. When they came back through Ellis Island (still not sure why they had to), he and his siblings were separated, and he somehow made it to little 'ol Briceville, TN. Lots of northern immigrant workers migrated south to work in the mines, or with the railroads. We're not sure why he moved here.


    He met my great-grandmother, they got married and had a baby. Sadly, the baby died at about age two. From what my research shows, the stress was too much, so he moved BACK to New York, joined the Army to serve in the Philipines for the last of the Spanish-American war. She divorced him for desertion after he left. He was released from service due to dysentery and "disease of the rectum" (I SWEAR it even says it on his discharge papers - which I have a copy of).


    He arrived in San Fransisco on April 4th, was discharged, appearently hopped the first train back to Briceville, then he and his "ex" got RE-married at the end of the month - on the date of their FIRST marriage!


    He became a horseback riding mail carrier, spoke fluent German (and English) to his kids and grandkids, and died in 1946. He would rarely talk of seeing action in the war, usually after his grandkinds "bugged" him.


    I have a picture his sister sent from Germany in 1917, and on the back (in German), she tells of the hardship they were facing at the time. BTW...during this time, most Americans of Gemanic ancestry tended to keep it quiet, as fear of reprisal (very real possibility) was constant.


    He almost moved the entire family (by now, 7 kids) to Germany, but the instability was too intense, AND (according to some I've spoken with), he predicted what happened with Hitler, including the hate crimes against Jews, just didn't know WHO would be the catalyst. He even said (in the 20's) there would be ANOTHER world war...



  • That is quite a neat story. I dont know if my grandfather (who was from Norway) went through Ellis Island or not? He joined the Army and fought in France which was how he became an American. I know nothing about his WWI service but he served in the Merchant marine in WWII and was the Ship Master (aka) the Captain)) of the SS Fort Lee. His ship was hit by a German torpedo on Nov 2nd 1944 at night and in bad weather rough seas and such. Till I informed the surviving U 181 vets when I met them, they thought all these years that nobody had been killed on his ship thinking all got out safely before they went to the other side and sent in torpedo Nr 2/ It was that torpedo (unknownst to them as they could not see any lifeboats in the area due to the night and bad weather)) that his amidships ad killed 27 of the crew which included most of the US Navy Armed Escort that were on board. They were on his ship and manned 1 or 2 large caliber guns that were put on board for reasons of shooting at Uboats and such.


    Anyway, when I told those German vets what happened--you could see all the smiles from their faces were gone in an instant. Believe it or not? and contrary to ill popular belief--not all Germans are Nazis are bad people--especially the men who served in the Kriegsmarine. Anyone who had been a member of the party--HAD to give up membership in order to serve in Raeders and Donitz's Navy. Anyway, those vets all gathered together, held hands-mine included) and said prayers. Needless to say, I was VERY impressed with them. One thing about the Germans is--they have such a strong comradeship with themselves as well as anyone who served in other Navies. You would have to experience it in person to know exactly what I mean. Ive been to American Vets reunions and though those folks basically love each other like brothers--the bond is not as strong as what I saw in Germany with those vets.


    PS, when Keith kindly gets through helping me get all my photos to a photo bucket account--I have two Uboat photos that will knock your socks off. Those photos were taken by the 2nd in command of U 108 and show it diving in rough seas. The 2nd in command was on the bridge and took these photos literally seconds before he could have been swamped

    Es Ist Verboten Mit Gefangenen In Einzelhaft Zu Sprechen..

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  • Can't wait to see the pics.


    I know there were lots of honorable men who served in the German military. It's that way in a lot of conflicts. People get lumped into certain groups.



    Will do and hopefully within the next 10 days or less ;-)) I have lots of friends who served in the American, Austrailian, British, German, Russian and Japanese forces in WWII. Most are now gone unfortunately but--I cherish every second i got with those gents and came to realize long ago--that those taught in public schools dont know what the hell they are talking about when it comes to those Soldiers from other nations. Ive been and still are friends with several German Knights Cross Recipients--was friends with Captain Richard Wallace Annand-who was a Victoria Cross Recipient till he passed away a few years ago, and I was also friends with a Russian Hero of the Soviet union Recipient who had now been gone about 12 years. Those guys--just like the less famed--well--I wouldnt trade everything in the world for the time I got to spend with those guys.


    PS, I consider it my duty--to make others aware that most of what they read or were taught by teachers--is mostly CARP and not true. Same thing in defending Duke from those who wrongfully think that he tried his best to keep from serving in the military in WWII. People with closed and narrow minds--cant be reached but--I still try.

    Es Ist Verboten Mit Gefangenen In Einzelhaft Zu Sprechen..

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  • Ill soon be starting a story about a local Vietnam Vet by the name of Frederich. Fred still carries shrapnel in him from a Cong rocket blast.


    Here is a quick one from a Nam vet I met a few days ago on the bus home. He is in his 60s and was a Marine vet and had 3 tours in nam. He came home in 75 and was coming through the Airport in Los Angeles. He had an encounter with a hippie there who spit on him. He said the hippie spit on him and his medals and he turned more to face the hippie--and popped him hard in the mouth and knocked him cold. God and now you know why I love the Marines :lol::lol:


    Anyway, he said Security came up and asked what happened? and he said: "I saw nothing, I heard nothing and I know---nothing" saying his favorite line from his then--favorite TV series: Hogan's Heroes. He was kinda quoting his favorite character (and mine too) from the series: Sergeant Hans Georg Schultz, :lol::lol::lol:


    In case you dont know who Feldwebel Schultz is--this is him:

    Schultz is the Gent standing and Colonel Klink is the Gent sitting.
    This is a classic shot of: Sergeant Schultz:

    Schultz as Father Time: :lol::lol:




    Sgt. Schults as Curly: "Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk."

    Him impression of Groucho marx:

    Classic TV Guide photo:


    Es Ist Verboten Mit Gefangenen In Einzelhaft Zu Sprechen..