Duke's Missing And Rare Movies

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  • Hi Clanc and Mike


    That is a facinating article and perhaps they might e a good place to start. I believe that the film deteriorating into powder after being left in the can was what happened to the Oregon Trail.


    Its amazing what peolple can find out in only a couple of days.


    After all it was only a year or so ago that Bucking Broadway an old John Ford Western that had been lost for 70 years turned up in France.


    Regards


    Arthur

    Walk Tall - Talk Low

  • Realistically, there is little point in reviewing films,
    where Duke, has a minor, or walk-on part.
    We have many films in our Filmography, where he is seen, or maybe not seen,
    where he is credited, as a walk-on, or uncredited.
    Here are the films that will not be reviewed:-



    1926. BROWN OF HARVARD - (MGM)
    1926. BARDELEYS THE MAGNIFICENT- (MGM)
    1927. ANNIE LAURIE- (MGM)
    1927. THE DROP KICK - (First National) Uncredited but visibly seen.
    1927. THE GREAT K&A TRAIN ROBBERY- (Fox)
    1928. MOTHER MACHREE- (Fox)
    1928. FOUR SONS- (Fox)
    1928. HAM HAMILTONS COMEDIES- (Fox)
    1928. NOAH'S ARK- (Warner Brothers/First National)
    1929. STRONG BOY- (Fox)
    1929. SPEAKEASY- (Fox)
    1929. THE BLACK WATCH- (Fox)
    1929. THE FORWARD PASS- (First National))
    1930. THE LONE STAR RANGER- (Fox)
    1930. BORN RECKLESS- (Fox)
    1931. WOMEN OF ALL NATIONS- (Fox)
    1931. THE SWEETHEART OF SIGMA CHI- (Fox)
    1931. THE DECEIVER- (Columbia)
    1932. THAT'S MY BOY- (Columbia)
    1933. CENTRAL AIRPORT- (WB)
    1933. COLLEGE COACH- (WB)


    However, if anyone has a particular interest, in one of the above,
    please make a request, on the message thread.

    Best Wishes
    Keith
    London- England

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    Originally posted by ethanedwards@Dec 22 2006, 04:27 AM
    Hi,


    I echo Arthur, in hoping a 'new' lost film is recoverd!

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    Just to clarify, Adventure's End is *not* a lost film. A video dealer in Canada knows someone with a 16mm print but like many collectors, is not willing to loan it for transfer to DVD or any other format.

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    Originally posted by RoughRider@Dec 22 2006, 12:41 PM
    Just to clarify, Adventure's End is *not* a lost film. A video dealer in Canada knows someone with a 16mm print but like many collectors, is not willing to loan it for transfer to DVD or any other format.

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    It seems like Bill is correct then and I have a funny feeling the Oregon trail will pop up in the future.


    :agent:

    Regards
    Robbie

  • Many thanks for the link to John Wayne on DVD: A Filmography. It looks like many from the 1930s are coming to DVD.

  • How great would it be if FOX actually still has, and releases, Three Girls Lost & Girls Demand Excitment on DVD.


    And if Universal releases their 6 Duke films from the mid 30s (Sea Spoilers, Conflict, etc...).


    Would certainly make my day!

  • Hi Kieth

    Looking at your list I think I would agree with the majority of your choices. The two exceptions would be Men Are Like That and Hangman's House, the first because Duke has a fairly substantial role in the film, the second because it is recognised as being one of his first pivotal roles. it is also often erroneously reported that he is seen as a spectator demolishing a fence in the horse race scene. he is also seen in sillouhette being sentenced to be hung, and again has a 'speaking part' if that can be said in a silent picture, in the crowd riot scene. And if all else fails then there is still Victor McLaglen.

    Interestingly in this years Trail Beyond Tim Lilley includes an article by me entitled The John Wayne Timeline in which he mentions John Wayne as an extra in the film 'Noah's Ark' along with Andy Devine who were both in the drowning sequence.

    Regards


    Arthur

    Walk Tall - Talk Low


  • Thanks for that Arthur,


    Although, it was still in the list of 'un-reviewed'
    I had already reviewed
    Men Are Like That
    aware that it was important enough to do so!
    However I have re-edited and re-posted
    it as
    Arizona (Men Are Like That)

    but this time placing it in,Duke's Romantic/Misc etc.,
    which I think is more acceptable for it, than a war film!



    I have now also reviewed the other few films
    where Duke is credited, as Duke Morrison,


    Namely,


    Words And Music
    Men Without Women
    Rough Romance
    Cheer Up And Smile


    I have also included
    Hangman's House
    because of it's importance

    Best Wishes
    Keith
    London- England

  • TCM will be showing Central Airport tomorrow morning at 11 am, est. It appears John Wayne had a very small part in this movie and apparantly not credited.

    Stay thirsty my friends.

  • Hi

    Of all of the films listed I think that most of the three esquiteers films have or are coming out on DVD.

    The Life of Jimmy Dolan is already out, I'm not sure about the earlier ones.

    There were three versions of the Oregon Trail made, I would be prepared to say that the Duke version was destroyed.

    Of the others I think Adventures End is in the same catagory.

    Certainly Tim Lilley is certain about Duke's participation in Noahs Ark for when writing the Timeline for the Big Trail with his help I was able to extend John Wayne's film career from the start of Christianity to the dawn of time when ever that was.


    Regards

    Arthur

    Regards

    Arthur

    Walk Tall - Talk Low



  • There are about 18 movies before The Big Trail...


    These I have on DVD:


    The Great K&A Train Robbery - 1926
    Brown of Harvard - 1926
    The Drop Kick - 1927
    Hangman's House - 1928
    Salute - 1929
    Noah's Ark - 1929
    he Black Watch - 1929
    Born Reckless - 1930


    These I don't but are working on it to get them:


    Bardelys the Magnificent - 1926
    Annie Laurie - 1927
    Mother Machree - 1928
    Four Sons - 1928
    Words and Music - 1929
    Speakeasy - 1929
    The Forward Pass - 1929
    Rough Romance - 1930
    Men Without Women - 1930
    Cheer Up and Smile - 1930

  • Here is the list from our Filmography,
    which was compiled from some 11 books,
    IMDb and Tim Lilley's Big Trail



    1926. BROWN OF HARVARD - (MGM)
    1926. BARDELEYS THE MAGNIFICENT- (MGM)
    1927. ANNIE LAURIE- (MGM)
    1927. THE DROP KICK - (First National) Uncredited but visibly seen.
    1927. THE GREAT K&A TRAIN ROBBERY- (Fox)
    1928. MOTHER MACHREE- (Fox)
    1928. FOUR SONS- (Fox)
    1928. HANGMAN'S HOUSE -(Fox) Uncredited, but visibly seen.
    1928. HAM HAMILTONS COMEDIES- (Fox)
    1928. NOAH'S ARK- (Warner Brothers/First National)
    1929. STRONG BOY- (Fox)
    1929. SPEAKEASY- (Fox)
    1929. THE BLACK WATCH- (Fox)
    1929. WORDS AND MUSIC- (Fox) credited as Duke Morrison
    1929. SALUTE- (Fox) credited as Duke Morrison
    1929. THE FORWARD PASS- (First National))
    1930. THE LONE STAR RANGER- (Fox)
    1930. MEN WITHOUT WOMEN-(Fox) credited as Duke Morrison
    1930. BORN RECKLESS- (Fox)
    1930. ROUGH ROMANCE- (Fox) credited as Duke Morrison
    1930. CHEER UP AND SMILE- (Fox) credited as Duke Morrison

    Best Wishes
    Keith
    London- England

  • Three of them that don't match I don't think he was in as an actor.


    HAM HAMILTONS COMEDIES
    STRONG BOY
    THE LONE STAR RANGER


    These three are not in any of my books. I took my filmography from Duke: A Life In Pictures and iMDB matches my list as well. Along with 3 other books I just checked:


    Duke: The John Wayne Album
    John Wayne: A Tribute
    The Complete Films of John Wayne



    So that's 5 sources for me and no mention of those three movies. I wouldn't be surprised if he was just a crew member on those. I have those 18 pre-The Big Trail on my list but I'm really only interested in getting the movies starting with The Big Trail since it was his first starring role.Using that list I have 93% of his movies on DVD.


    I was able to record "Central Airport" this morning but the sound was very badly out-of-sync. I'll have to run it through my Virtual DubMode software and get the voice in sync with the picture. Other than that it was a good copy of the film.