Maybe someone could write to some of these places and ask if they have them.
just a thought...
Vicki
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Maybe someone could write to some of these places and ask if they have them.
just a thought...
Vicki
Hi,
In hindsight, if only they'd known!
How they could have done with a PC???
Hi Clanc and Mike
That is a facinating article and perhaps they might e a good place to start. I believe that the film deteriorating into powder after being left in the can was what happened to the Oregon Trail.
Its amazing what peolple can find out in only a couple of days.
After all it was only a year or so ago that Bucking Broadway an old John Ford Western that had been lost for 70 years turned up in France.
Regards
Arthur
Realistically, there is little point in reviewing films,
where Duke, has a minor, or walk-on part.
We have many films in our Filmography, where he is seen, or maybe not seen,
where he is credited, as a walk-on, or uncredited.
Here are the films that will not be reviewed:-
1926. BROWN OF HARVARD - (MGM)
1926. BARDELEYS THE MAGNIFICENT- (MGM)
1927. ANNIE LAURIE- (MGM)
1927. THE DROP KICK - (First National) Uncredited but visibly seen.
1927. THE GREAT K&A TRAIN ROBBERY- (Fox)
1928. MOTHER MACHREE- (Fox)
1928. FOUR SONS- (Fox)
1928. HAM HAMILTONS COMEDIES- (Fox)
1928. NOAH'S ARK- (Warner Brothers/First National)
1929. STRONG BOY- (Fox)
1929. SPEAKEASY- (Fox)
1929. THE BLACK WATCH- (Fox)
1929. THE FORWARD PASS- (First National))
1930. THE LONE STAR RANGER- (Fox)
1930. BORN RECKLESS- (Fox)
1931. WOMEN OF ALL NATIONS- (Fox)
1931. THE SWEETHEART OF SIGMA CHI- (Fox)
1931. THE DECEIVER- (Columbia)
1932. THAT'S MY BOY- (Columbia)
1933. CENTRAL AIRPORT- (WB)
1933. COLLEGE COACH- (WB)
However, if anyone has a particular interest, in one of the above,
please make a request, on the message thread.
Girls Demand Excitement (1931) can't be lost, as this film was shown at the New York Film Forum just this past week as part of a "Fox Before The Code" show. So, Fox must have a print of it in their vaults.
Hi Ejgreen,
thank you for very interesting news. Hope they will release this film on DVD.
Regards,
Senta
Hi,
I echo Arthur, in hoping a 'new' lost film is recoverd!
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Hi,
I echo Arthur, in hoping a 'new' lost film is recoverd!
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Just to clarify, Adventure's End is *not* a lost film. A video dealer in Canada knows someone with a 16mm print but like many collectors, is not willing to loan it for transfer to DVD or any other format.
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It seems like Bill is correct then and I have a funny feeling the Oregon trail will pop up in the future.
Many thanks for the link to John Wayne on DVD: A Filmography. It looks like many from the 1930s are coming to DVD.
How great would it be if FOX actually still has, and releases, Three Girls Lost & Girls Demand Excitment on DVD.
And if Universal releases their 6 Duke films from the mid 30s (Sea Spoilers, Conflict, etc...).
Would certainly make my day!
Hi Kieth
Looking at your list I think I would agree with the majority of your choices. The two exceptions would be Men Are Like That and Hangman's House, the first because Duke has a fairly substantial role in the film, the second because it is recognised as being one of his first pivotal roles. it is also often erroneously reported that he is seen as a spectator demolishing a fence in the horse race scene. he is also seen in sillouhette being sentenced to be hung, and again has a 'speaking part' if that can be said in a silent picture, in the crowd riot scene. And if all else fails then there is still Victor McLaglen.
Interestingly in this years Trail Beyond Tim Lilley includes an article by me entitled The John Wayne Timeline in which he mentions John Wayne as an extra in the film 'Noah's Ark' along with Andy Devine who were both in the drowning sequence.
Regards
Arthur
Display MoreHi Kieth
Looking at your list I think I would agree with the majority of your choices. The two exceptions would be Men Are Like That and Hangman's House,
Regards
Arthur
Thanks for that Arthur,
Although, it was still in the list of 'un-reviewed'
I had already reviewed
Men Are Like That
aware that it was important enough to do so!
However I have re-edited and re-posted
it as
Arizona (Men Are Like That)
but this time placing it in,Duke's Romantic/Misc etc.,
which I think is more acceptable for it, than a war film!
I have now also reviewed the other few films
where Duke is credited, as Duke Morrison,
Namely,
Words And Music
Men Without Women
Rough Romance
Cheer Up And Smile
I have also included
Hangman's House
because of it's importance
TCM will be showing Central Airport tomorrow morning at 11 am, est. It appears John Wayne had a very small part in this movie and apparantly not credited.
Hi
Of all of the films listed I think that most of the three esquiteers films have or are coming out on DVD.
The Life of Jimmy Dolan is already out, I'm not sure about the earlier ones.
There were three versions of the Oregon Trail made, I would be prepared to say that the Duke version was destroyed.
Of the others I think Adventures End is in the same catagory.
Certainly Tim Lilley is certain about Duke's participation in Noahs Ark for when writing the Timeline for the Big Trail with his help I was able to extend John Wayne's film career from the start of Christianity to the dawn of time when ever that was.
Regards
Arthur
Regards
Arthur
Display MoreHi
Of all of the films listed I think that most of the three esquiteers films have or are coming out on DVD.
The Life of Jimmy Dolan is already out, I'm not sure about the earlier ones.
There were three versions of the Oregon Trail made, I would be prepared to say that the Duke version was destroyed.
Of the others I think Adventures End is in the same catagory.
Certainly Tim Lilley is certain about Duke's participation in Noahs Ark for when writing the Timeline for the Big Trail with his help I was able to extend John Wayne's film career from the start of Christianity to the dawn of time when ever that was.
Regards
Arthur
Regards
Arthur
There are about 18 movies before The Big Trail...
These I have on DVD:
The Great K&A Train Robbery - 1926
Brown of Harvard - 1926
The Drop Kick - 1927
Hangman's House - 1928
Salute - 1929
Noah's Ark - 1929
he Black Watch - 1929
Born Reckless - 1930
These I don't but are working on it to get them:
Bardelys the Magnificent - 1926
Annie Laurie - 1927
Mother Machree - 1928
Four Sons - 1928
Words and Music - 1929
Speakeasy - 1929
The Forward Pass - 1929
Rough Romance - 1930
Men Without Women - 1930
Cheer Up and Smile - 1930
Here is the list from our Filmography,
which was compiled from some 11 books,
IMDb and Tim Lilley's Big Trail
1926. BROWN OF HARVARD - (MGM)
1926. BARDELEYS THE MAGNIFICENT- (MGM)
1927. ANNIE LAURIE- (MGM)
1927. THE DROP KICK - (First National) Uncredited but visibly seen.
1927. THE GREAT K&A TRAIN ROBBERY- (Fox)
1928. MOTHER MACHREE- (Fox)
1928. FOUR SONS- (Fox)
1928. HANGMAN'S HOUSE -(Fox) Uncredited, but visibly seen.
1928. HAM HAMILTONS COMEDIES- (Fox)
1928. NOAH'S ARK- (Warner Brothers/First National)
1929. STRONG BOY- (Fox)
1929. SPEAKEASY- (Fox)
1929. THE BLACK WATCH- (Fox)
1929. WORDS AND MUSIC- (Fox) credited as Duke Morrison
1929. SALUTE- (Fox) credited as Duke Morrison
1929. THE FORWARD PASS- (First National))
1930. THE LONE STAR RANGER- (Fox)
1930. MEN WITHOUT WOMEN-(Fox) credited as Duke Morrison
1930. BORN RECKLESS- (Fox)
1930. ROUGH ROMANCE- (Fox) credited as Duke Morrison
1930. CHEER UP AND SMILE- (Fox) credited as Duke Morrison
Three of them that don't match I don't think he was in as an actor.
HAM HAMILTONS COMEDIES
STRONG BOY
THE LONE STAR RANGER
These three are not in any of my books. I took my filmography from Duke: A Life In Pictures and iMDB matches my list as well. Along with 3 other books I just checked:
Duke: The John Wayne Album
John Wayne: A Tribute
The Complete Films of John Wayne
So that's 5 sources for me and no mention of those three movies. I wouldn't be surprised if he was just a crew member on those. I have those 18 pre-The Big Trail on my list but I'm really only interested in getting the movies starting with The Big Trail since it was his first starring role.Using that list I have 93% of his movies on DVD.
I was able to record "Central Airport" this morning but the sound was very badly out-of-sync. I'll have to run it through my Virtual DubMode software and get the voice in sync with the picture. Other than that it was a good copy of the film.