The Quiet Man (1952)

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    Compiled by ethanedwards,
    with special thanks to Hondo Duke Lane,
    for continuity allowing posting of this profile on his post


    Plot Summary
    Sean Thornton has returned from America to reclaim his homestead and escape his past.
    Sean's eye is caught by Mary Kate Danaher, a beautiful but poor maiden,
    and younger sister of ill-tempered "Red" Will Danaher.
    The riotous relationship that forms between Sean and Mary Kate,
    punctuated by Will's pugnacious attempts to keep them apart, form the main plot,
    with Sean's past as the dark undercurrent.
    Summary written by Steve Fenwick

    Full Cast
    John Wayne .... Sean Thornton
    Maureen O'Hara .... Mary Kate Danaher
    Barry Fitzgerald .... Michaleen Oge Flynn
    Ward Bond .... Father Peter Lonergan
    Victor McLaglen .... Squire 'Red' Will Danaher
    Mildred Natwick .... The Widow Sarah Tillane
    Francis Ford .... Dan Tobin
    Eileen Crowe .... Mrs. Elizabeth Playfair
    May Craig .... Fishwoman with basket at station
    Arthur Shields .... Rev. Cyril 'Snuffy' Playfair
    Charles B. Fitzsimons .... Hugh Forbes (as Charles FitzSimons)
    James O'Hara .... Father Paul (as James Lilburn)
    Sean McClory .... Owen Glynn
    Jack MacGowran .... Ignatius Feeney (Squire Daniher's handyman) (as Jack McGowran)
    Joseph O'Dea .... Molouney (train guard)
    Eric Gorman .... Costello (engine driver)
    Kevin Lawless .... Train fireman
    Paddy O'Donnell .... Railway porter
    Frank Baker .... Man in bar (uncredited)
    Tony Canzoneri .... Boxing second (uncredited)
    Maureen Coyne .... Dan Tobin's daughter (Ireland) (uncredited)
    Ken Curtis .... Dermot Fahy (uncredited)
    Mimi Doyle .... Dan Tobin's daughter (USA) (uncredited)
    Douglas Evans .... Ring physician (uncredited)
    Robert Foy .... Driver of cart across river (uncredited)
    Sam Harris .... General (uncredited)
    D.R.O. Hatswell .... Guppy (uncredited)
    John Horan .... Man at railway station (uncredited)
    David Hughes .... Police constable (uncredited)
    Billy Jones .... Bugler (uncredited)
    Tiny Jones .... Nell (uncredited)
    Colin Kenny .... Pub extra (uncredited)
    Mae Marsh .... Father Paul's mother (uncredited)
    Jim McVeigh .... Man following cart across river (uncredited)
    Jim Morrin .... Roof thatcher (uncredited)
    Al Murphy .... Boxing referee (uncredited)
    Michael O'Brian .... Musha Musha man (uncredited)
    Frank O'Connor .... Ringside photographer (uncredited)
    Pat O'Malley .... Man in bar (uncredited)
    Web Overlander .... Hugh Bailey (stationmaster) (uncredited)
    Bob Perry .... Trooper Thorn's ringside trainer (uncredited)
    Jack Roper .... Tony Godello (boxer) (uncredited)
    Philip Stainton .... Anglican bishop (uncredited)
    Harry Tenbrook .... Police Sgt. Hanan (uncredited)
    Harry Tyler .... Pat Cohan (publican) (uncredited)
    Melinda Wayne .... Girl on wagon at horse race (uncredited)
    Michael Wayne .... Teenage boy at races (uncredited)
    Patrick Wayne .... Boy on wagon at horse race (uncredited)
    Toni Wayne .... Teenage girl at races (uncredited)

    Writing Credits
    Maurice Walsh (story Green Rushes)
    Frank S. Nugent (screenplay)

    Merian C. Cooper
    John Ford

    Original Music
    Victor Young

    Winton C. Hoch

    Joe Fair .... riding double: John Wayne (uncredited)
    Fred Kennedy .... stunts (uncredited)
    Bob Morgan .... stunts (uncredited)
    Terry Wilson .... stunts (uncredited)

    Barry Fitzgerald, who plays the character of the Roman Catholic Michaleen Oge Flynn, and Arthur Shields, who played the Protestant vicar Cyril 'Snuffy' Playfair, were brothers in real life. They also appeared together in director John Ford's The Long Voyage Home (1940). They were both Protestants born in Dublin, Ireland. Shields was the family name. The Oscar-winner Fitzgerald, who was nearly eight years older than his brother, was born William Joseph Shields.

    A replica of the famous thatched cottage in the movie is located at Maam Cross, County Galway, in the west of Ireland.

    When the film was first screened in Boston, Mass., Michaleen Flynn's line on seeing the broken bed, "Impetuous! Homeric!", was censored.

    The famous fight scene was shot in the grounds of Ashford Castle, Cong, County Mayo. The stunt in which John Wayne punches Victor McLaglen into the river was performed by director John Ford's son, Patrick Ford (doubling for McLaglen).

    The horse racing sequence was shot at Lettergesh beach, Connemara, on the west coast of Ireland.

    At the film's conclusion, after the credits, we see Kate and Sean standing in their garden waving good-bye. Maureen O'Hara turns to John Wayne and whispers something in his ear, evoking a priceless reaction from Wayne. What was said was known only to O'Hara, Wayne and director John Ford. In exchange for saying this unscripted bit of text, O'Hara insisted that the exact line never be disclosed by any involved parties. In her memoirs she says that she refused to say the line at first as she "couldn't possibly say that to Duke", but Ford insisted, claiming he needed a genuine shock reaction from Wayne. The line remains a mystery to this day.

    When Sean and Mary Kate take their wagon into town a store called "Emily O'Connor" can be seen in the background. This is actually a crafts store and is still in business to this day.

    This was a significant departure for Republic Pictures, which specialized in low-budget westerns, comedies and war pictures. It was the company's first and only film to receive an Academy Award nomination for Best Picture.

    According to the production notes on the DVD. John Ford first acquired the rights to Maurice Walsh's short story, The Quiet Man, in 1936, but it would be another sixteen years before his dream of adapting the story to film would become a reality.

    This is one of the few Hollywood films in which you can hear Gaelic, the national language of Ireland.

    The last line of the wedding toast was censored by Republic Pictures. It should have said, "May their days be long and full of happiness. May their children be many and full of health. And may they live in peace and national freedom". After the film was completed, Republic Pictures decided "national freedom" in Ireland was too controversial a concept.
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    Green, the national color of Ireland, can be seen somewhere in every shot in this film, but not on any of the actors' costumes except for Maureen O'Hara green floral dress in the cemetery scene.

    Whenever John Wayne lights up a cigarette, he takes exactly two puffs before pitching it away.

    Film editor Jack Murray wept when he began editing the film. He said that John Ford was such a master of his craft that the film required nothing from him as an editor other than sticking the bits of film together. He said Ford had cut the film in the camera - not a frame was wasted or needed to be removed.

    On the DVD commentary Maureen O'Hara dispels many myths about the film including one about a lack of accommodations for the crew in Ireland. According to O'Hara, the production spent six weeks shooting the exteriors in Ireland and filmed the interiors on sound stages in L.A.

    According to an interview in the Los Angeles Times on October 28, 2000, Maureen O'Hara recounted that she, John Ford and John Wayne made a handshake agreement in 1944 to do the film. When Ford pitched the idea to Hollywood producers, he was told that it was a "silly Irish story that won't make a penny." Wayne had a contract with Republic Pictures and approached studio chief Herbert J. Yates ("...a step down for John Ford", he said). He was told by Yates that the script was a silly Irish tale that would make no money. However, Yates would relent if Wayne, Ford and O'Hara together would make a western for Republic, a sure money-maker that would pay for the losses Republic expected to incur on this film. The picture made as a result of the agreement was Rio Grande (1950).

    During the scene where John Wayne first kisses Maureen O'Hara, she slaps his face. When he blocked the blow, she broke a bone in her hand. Since the movie was being filmed in sequential order, she couldn't wear a cast to fix the broken bone.

    The station used in the opening sequence and during the scene where John Wayne slams the train doors looking for Maureen O'Hara later in the film is Ballyglunin Station, south of the town of Tuam, County Galway. It looks the same today as it did in 1951, when the film was shot with the only major difference being the bridge which crosses the railway tracks is now gone. This bridge was moved to Ballinasloe station, East Galway where it still stands today, after Ballyglunin closed down as a main line.

    John Wayne and John Ford decided to play a trick on Maureen O'Hara during filming. They chose the sequence where Wayne drags O'Hara across the town and through the fields. Before shooting the scene, Wayne and Ford kicked all of the sheep dung they could find onto the hill where O'Hara was to be dragged, face-down, on her stomach. O'Hara saw them doing it; with the help of several friends, she kicked it off, only to have Wayne and Ford kick it back on. O'Hara and her friends kicked it off again, and Wayne and Ford kicked it back. This went on and on until right before the scene was shot, when Wayne and Ford got in the last kick. According to O'Hara, "Duke had the time of his life dragging me through it. It was bloody awful. After the scene was over, Mr. Ford had given instructions that I was not to be brought a bucket of water or a towel. He made me keep it on for the rest of the day. I was mad as hell, but I had to laugh too. Isn't showbiz glamorous?"

    Maureen O'Hara did her own singing.

    Charles B. Fitzsimons (Hugh Forbes) and James O'Hara (Father Paul) were the real life younger brothers of Maureen O'Hara (Mary Kate Danaher).

    Although made in 1951, is was Republic's first production to be shot outside the United States.

    The white haired frail Dan Tobin, who gets up from his death bed and runs to see the fight is John Ford's older brother, Francis Ford. Francis was a silent film actor and director in his own right, who died one year after the film was made.

    Cohan's Pub in this film was actually a grocery store in Cong, County Mayo. It later became a souvenir shop, and was recently turned into a real Irish pub. It was officially opened on 17 September 2008 by Tara MacGowran, daughter of Jack MacGowran, who played Ignatius Feeney in the movie.

    While all other saddled horses are seen with English saddles (as would be expected in Ireland during that time period), Sean's (John Wayne's) horse is saddled with a US Army-issue McClellan cavalry saddle.

    From the opening credits "John Ford and Merian C. Cooper's Argosy Production," both were given producer credits. They are not otherwise mentioned as producers.

    James O'Hara's first film.

    The movie's fans who visit Cong to see the sites where the movie were filmed are called "Quiet Man Crazies".

    The original White o' Morn cottage from the film is in a sheep field along a road that cuts from Maam Cross to the southern pass of N59. There you can see the bridge where Michaleen parts ways with Sean Thornton before Sean heads into the cottage for the first time and the the remainder of the cottage itself. Unfortunately, little is left of the original cottage, having been carried away stone by stone by "Quiet Man" fans. There is a replica of the cottage around the block from Pat Cohan's in Cong.

    Second of five movies that paired John Wayne and Maureen O'Hara.

    Film debut of Sean McClory.

    * Continuity: When Mary Kate and Sean drive to town in the buggy, the horn is on the left hand side of the bulkhead. When Mary Kate interrupts the father fly fishing after storming off, it has moved to the right side.

    * Continuity: When Sean Thornton first introduces himself to the bar and they start to sing "Wild Colonial Boy", the accordion player acquires a hat between shots.

    * Continuity: After church, when Sean dips his hand in the holy water and says "good morning" to Mary Kate, her hair is alternately tucked in/hanging out between shots.

    * Audio/visual unsynchronized: When they are singing "Wild Colonial Boy" for the second time (after Will and Feeney leave), their mouths are moving slower than the song that they're supposed to be singing.

    * Continuity: When Michaleen Flyn first asks if Mary Kate is willing to marry, the glass and the bottle switch position between shots.

    * Audio/visual unsynchronized: During the fight, the last time Sean gets the bucket of water thrown on him, we hear him say, "Thanks," but his lips never move.

    * Continuity: Towards the end of the movie when all the town folk are along the road waving at the car passing by, the car twice passes by the "IRA" member. He can be seen standing on the side of the road in his bright blue shirt.

    * Errors in geography: At the horse race there is a sign that says "Inishfree race meet". In Ireland they are called race meetings not meets.

    * Continuity: John Wayne's wedding ring is clearly visible before he even meets Mary Kate Danniher. It is most clearly seen while he is remembering his mother's words before introducing himself to Michaleen.

    * Continuity: When Thornton and Danaher are at the Widow Tillane's bidding for the cottage, Danaher's highest bid is 710. But in the bar, the accordion player says he heard that Danaher bid up to 810 and nobody corrected him. It is possible that the bidding was longer when originally shot, and edited down, but they forgot to change the scene in the bar.

    * Continuity: During the matchmaking scene indoors, rain is visible through the window behind Mary Kate. When the shot switches to Michaleen Oge Flynn, no rain is falling outside the window behind him.

    * Continuity: When Mary Kate finishes playing the spinet in Sean's house, she is seated with the music book opened. When she gets up from the bench the music book is closed.

    * Continuity: When Sean finds Mary Kate cleaning his cottage, you can see in the background that the bedroom door has been splintered with a large hole where the bolt would be. The door isn't splintered until later in the story, though, after Sean and Kate are married and he kicks the intact bedroom door down.

    * Anachronisms: During the station scenes, the locomotive and carriages have the 'Flying Snail' logo of the Coras Iompair Eireann railway company. This logo wasn't introduced until 1944.

    * Factual errors: In the race meeting scene, two pipers are shown playing. The pipes they are playing are Scottish pipes characterized by having one bass and two tenor drones in addition to the chanter, traditional Irish pipes only have one bass and one tenor drone plus the chanter.

    * Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): Michaeleen introduces Sean to Mary Kate as from Pittsburgh, Massachusetts, USA. However, "Steel", "pig-iron furnaces", and "slag heaps" are more generally associated with Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA. (Note: this is an obvious comedic device, showing that Michaeleen is not familiar with US geography.)

    * Audio/visual unsynchronized: When Sean hops back in the horse cart and says, "Hey! Is that real? She couldn't be!", the sound is also out of sync.

    * Incorrectly regarded as goofs: After Sean and Red's first confrontation in the pub, the publican is pulling a round of drinks for everyone, it can be seen that he is taking full pints from a line and pretending to fill them. In Ireland it is customary to have a row of drinks, such as Guniness, ready to be topped up as it is best served once it has settled.

    * Errors made by characters (possibly deliberate errors by the filmmakers): When Mary Kate interrupts the father fly fishing after storming off, the father says that he has been fishing for a particular wily salmon for ten years. Salmon almost always expire after returning to fresh water to spawn (at an age of four years or so) and a keen fisherman would know this.

    * Revealing mistakes: When Sean and Mary Kate get caught in the storm, right after a loud clap of thunder, Mary Kate mouths several words, but there is no dialog.

    Memorable Quotes

    Filming Locations
    Ashford Castle, County Mayo, Ireland
    Ballyglunin, Tuam, County Galway, Ireland
    (Castletown Railway Station)
    Clifden, Galway City, County Galway, Ireland
    Cong, County Mayo, Ireland
    Connemara, County Galway, Ireland
    (Lots of rural scenes)
    Lettergesh Beach, Connemara, County Galway, Ireland
    (Horse racing scenes)
    Maam, Galway City, County Galway, Ireland
    (White O'Morn cottage)
    Oughterard, County Galway, Ireland
    Thoor Ballylee, County Galway, Ireland
    (Mary Kate runs across the river)

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    Hello All,

    I have recieved many e-mails and been looking at comments about that famous spanking scene, that I finally had a chance to see my version of The Quiet Man on DVD. I happen to watch it the very same time yesterday morning when it was shown on AMC.

    First of all, my version is much better quality than what was shown on AMC. The colors were richer, and the quality of sound superb.

    Anyway, back to the movie. I saw the whole movie on DVD. My machine is a home unit, so I don't have the ditigal reads or active militime unit to read everything. I do have a function on the unit that lets me move one frame at a time manually (although no sound feedback). So I watched the movie in real time, and then went back to listen to it. The music was playing in the commotion, and I had to listen to it several times, and I didn't find any sudden break in the music.

    The Movie:
    The woman handed Duke a stick to "beat the lovely lady," and Duke carried it. Then the scene broke to the pub back in the villiage where you heard the gun shot twice. The patrains ran out the pub including the bar tender, and as he went out the door, he closed it, and put a sign that read, 'gone to tea.' The scene went to where the villiage people (not the disco musical group), and Duke was still holding the stick. They went through the group of people and Duke threw the stick away. That is what is in my version of the movie.

    Here are the facts
    As I continued to research this contorversy. I have in the Author's note from The Official John Wayne Reference Book by Charles John Kieskalt that "Republic Pictures Boss Herbert Yates told Director John Ford he wanted the film to last two hours. Ford's FINAL running time was 129 minutes. Yates wanted nine minutes cut. During a screening for Republic distributors, Yates noticed the film hadn't been recut. Ford said nine minutes were gone. During the film's climax, the screen went white. Ford couldn't decide what to edit, so he cut the ending. Yates went with Ford's 129 minutes print."

    Let me say, that if you carry a stick and "beat the lovely lady," why would you continue to carry that stick. If I hit someone, I would get rid of that stick, and not carry it. I would certainly not get rid of it later after using it. Also earlier in the movie, where Duke comes home to the cottage after seeing the preacher, and O'Hara is in front of the fire place, she hands Duke a stick to get beat, but Duke throws it in the fire place. Just don't make any sense that there would be a spanking scene. But here is some more evidence, that shows that it was not in the movie.

    I've read in Ford's book nothing mentioning a scene where Duke beat, whipped, spanked, or anything with O'Hara. I've looked in John Wayne's bio, and found nothing. I've looked in O'Hara's info and couldn't find anything. And here is the my evidence. The reference book I have was purchased years before the DVD came out. The total running time on my DVD is 129 minutes.

    I don't ever remember seeing that scene that all of you keep telling the board. I wonder if you might be getting it mixed up with McLintock! where O'Hara is getting spanked by Duke.

    The only other explanation I can give you is that you might have gotton a Director's Cut of The Quiet Man, but I doubt it since Ford died back in the 60's, and they usually didn't do that back then to make a director's cut, but knowing Ford and his ways, he might have done it.

    I believe that you are mistaken about the spanking scene. But I am sure that I will get an ear full of your explanations.

    This is what I have found.

    Cheers, Hondo B)


    "When you come slam bang up against trouble, it never looks half as bad if you face up to it"

    - John Wayne quote

    Edited 26 times, last by ethanedwards ().

  • Hey Hondo
    when this was discussed here I figured the kick in the butt or other rude manners were talked about. There IS no scene in which JW uses the stick on her after he receives it from the older woman. He kicks her, he drags her, he throws her to the ground - s'all. I happen to have the original 35mm print nobody could have laid a hand on in the meantime, it's uncut. The stick is just one of those rich details with which Ford flavored his films - so the SYMBOL of the stick keeps coming back, until the final scene where Mary Kate throws it away.

  • Hello :rolleyes:

    I am very pleased with my DVD on "The Quiet Man" :D

    It gives three different ways to veiw the movie :huh: The third and last is narrated by Maureen O'Hara <_<

    I have never seen it in the 35mm :huh: So I'll have to take your word on the scenes that you mention itdo :unsure:

    Monique ;)

  • yes itdo you are right he does kick her butt, and when he drags he it is because she looses her shoe and one of the men from the train station gives it back to her and he throws her to the ground when he is confronting her brother about her "fortune" and there is no hitting with the stick.

    cheers smokey

    " its not all black and white, but different shades of grey"

  • Very good itdo,

    I was wondering if anyone would get that part. And I have to say that the spanking scene is just a part of someone's imagination.

    It's good to get the feeling that you have the complete movie uncut and unedited.

    Cheers, Hondo B)


    "When you come slam bang up against trouble, it never looks half as bad if you face up to it"

    - John Wayne quote

  • :rolleyes:
    Outstanding :rolleyes: So I do have the complete version :rolleyes:

    Monique ;)

  • Monique,

    If your total time is 129 minutes, you have the complete version of The Quiet Man. Glad you have it too. :)

    Hondo B)


    "When you come slam bang up against trouble, it never looks half as bad if you face up to it"

    - John Wayne quote

  • After watching The Quiet Man the other night, I noticed that the cottage, during some scenes, appeared not to be painted white, while in others it was. I suspect that the unpainted one was perhaps in a studio sound stage, as it appeared to be more manicured around the exterior.

    Anybody know anything about this?

    Also, I received a DHC newsletter in the mail today, and someone in there mentioned that the property in Ireland with the original White O' Morn cottage is currently owned by a Canadian, who has no interest in selling, or restoring the cottage.

    Anybody have any more information in this area as well?

    BTW, our video has a listed running time of 129 minutes also (no spanking, but plenty of "patty fingers" :rolleyes: ).


  • I think it was Robbie who pointed out in an earlier post that the original location of the Thornton home is all in rubbles. However, next to the ruins the little stone bridge that leads to the place is still standing! Tourists can get Quiet-Man-maps of the area in Cong, and so it's not hard to find (yes, part of the scenes where done on the Republic-soundstage).

    One little story I'd like to share about this place with you because I have a vivid memory of the day I've been there:
    We were just about finished staring at the place and taking pictures when another couple arrived: I didn't recognize him right away, but luckily they asked us to take THEIR picture on the bridge so I could get a closer look at him: it was Dennis Farina, the well-known character actor - one of the guys it's hard to remember his name but the face is so familiar. He was in Ireland to work for Spielberg's Saving Private Ryan at the time (he's the one who gives Tom Hanks the new assignment just after the invasion-sequence - the tall, earnest, grey-haired guy). Turns out he is a huge John Ford fan and visited the locations just like any other fan, and he didn't mind at all having his picture taken as well. Nice guy!

  • Good story itdo.

    Robbie was telling me on the chat line last week or so that the bridge is intact, and about the only thing left from the movie. The cottage is in a rubble.

    He has a huge source of information about The Quiet Man, that I found very interesting. Love to have him as the tour guide when I go to Ireland.

    Cheers, Hondo B)


    "When you come slam bang up against trouble, it never looks half as bad if you face up to it"

    - John Wayne quote

  • Hey Hondo!

    I understand what you are saying in that JW nevers spanks O'Hara in TQM. I think that most people are mixing up the spanking scene in McLintock with The Quiet Man. They could also be mixing up the scene in Donavon's Reef where JW spanks Elizabeth Allen (who plays Ameilia Sarah Dedham) at the end of the movie. Either that or the scene in The Quiet Man where he spats her bottom at the end of the movie.

    Ahh, the things we think we see in movies, swear that they are there, and when they aren't we blame the goverment for a conspiracy! <_<

    [SIZE=3]"Here's to you Duke, untill we meet again."[/SIZE]

  • I can appreciate everyone's desire to believe they have an "uncut" version of "The Quiet Man", but such is not the case. I would love to see the original 35mm film version again. However, while I agree that there is no government conspiracy involved, there is no doubt in my mind that the spanking scene WAS cut from all versions of this movie, at least those released after, say, approximately 1970.

    The music flow alone makes it obvious that a fairly non-professional cut was performed, just after the lady hands JW the stick. Besides, I remember the scene from when I was a kid watching the film back in the 1960's... after accepting the stick, JW sits on a circular "Irish-typical" stone wall, similar to a well, drags Mary Kate over his knee, and gives her a few swats, while the following throng cheers him on. That's what the lady offered JW the stick for.

    I know little about 35mm film collecting, and even less about projecting a 35mm film a collector may still have. I don't even know if any original theater films still exist. However, I would pay money to watch an original version, and would pay more money to obtain a truly uncut version of this movie.

    It would be interesting to query Maureen O'Hara about this.. there must be a website about her, and I think I'll spend a few minutes browsing.

  • Does anyone know of an email address that can be used to contact Maureen O'hara because this is something that I want to find out. However I am not going to get over-excited at this moment in time as inaccurate information was given before regarding "The Greatest Story Ever Told" but I read a few reviews of on "The Quiet Man" in IMDB and one person mentioned Duke hitting Maureen and it wasnt put in the context of a simple kick on the behind. So I am currently passively interested.



  • Gary747,

    This movie never did show a scene where Duke spanked O'Hara. I'm sorry, but you're mistaken about it. I have someone personally contacted me, and told me that he or she contacted O'Hara and she herself said that it was "rubbish," it never did happen. I know that I have not confirmed that yet, but will hopefully be able to contact her, and talk to her about that and other things very soon. He/She went to her website, and e-mailed, and recieved a response from her to that affect.

    Cheers, Hondo B)


    "When you come slam bang up against trouble, it never looks half as bad if you face up to it"

    - John Wayne quote

  • Talking about the Quiet Man got my appetite up to read again Frank Nugents wonderful Screenplay. It's obvious that Ford added a lot right on the spot - such as our little piece of business with the stick - that line delivered by the old woman when giving the stick to Wayne who says "Thanks" isn't in the script.

    To make businessman Herbert Yates happy Ford had to cut away to keep the film under 120 min running time. We know about that little scene in the beginning, when Fitzgerald brings Wayne into town and happens to come across the padre. There's a bit of dialogue there which Ford had to cut out. Here it is:

    LONERGAN (change of mood)
    Good... Sean, if I would have a word with Michaeleen... It is in reference...

    The poor man stops, realizing he has come close to putting a lie on his soul.

    Sure thing, Father...

    Sean hops down.

    LONERGAN: (still a bit conscience-stricken)
    It will not take a minute... It is only a matter of... of...

    He bogs down again.

    MICHAELEEN (rescuing him)
    Sean understands, Father... Sure in America it's always business before the pleasure.

    SEAN (starting away)
    Take your time... I'll be down the line.

    Lonergan looks after him gratefully, then comes closer to Michaeleen.

    How do I stand in your books, Michaeleen?

    Michaeleen pulls out a tattered pocket ledger.

    Let me see now... Here it is... three pounds, eight shillings and six pence... less the two shillings ye lost on Mad Hatter Friday last.

    Devil take him for going wide on the far turn.

    He blesses himself by way of apology.

    Which leaves three pounds, six-and-six.

    LONERGAN: (almost wringing his hands)
    And poor Dermot Fahy making the stations six nights a week, praying for a new fiddle!... Ah, he's a faithful lad.

    He is that.

    LONERGAN: (needing all the assurance he can get)
    And he has been doing his part...? putting his shillings aside... not scattering them at the pub.

    MICHAELEEN (stoutly)
    Devil a scatter... ah, maybe a pint now and again...

    Lonergan holds up his hand. He doesn't want to weaken.

    Then half a crown on Ard-Ri in the steeplechase today.

    MICHAELEEN (impressed)
    Half a crown!

    LONERGAN (jaw firm, eyes aloft)
    Make it a crown... now I had best go say my beads.

    And he stomps off while Michaeleen, with doleful face -- for he has misgivings about Ard-Ri -- enters the item in his ledger.

    Here the script would make transition to Sean again, seeing Mary Kate for the first time. Now that little dialogue scene was vintage Ford - would have loved to have seen that.

    By the way, the original book by Maurice Walsh, "The Green Rushes", a collection of his stories with the "Quiet Man" in it, is really a treat as well and one can imagine why this story became Ford's pet project and obsession for so many years.

  • Roland,

    In the DVD version, there is a documentary from Leonard Maltin about the movie, and talks about that scene (the first meeting Michaeleen, & the padre) in the movie of being cut on Ford's editing floor. I didn't know about the lines, but knew the subject. I thought that was appropriate to cut, it didn't do anything for the movie, and later we learn that the padre is a betting man anyway.

    Thanks for the info on the book. I want to get that book for my collection.

    BTW, itdo you're breaking me. If you keep telling me books and documentary vidoes, I will never have any money to pay my bills. lol!

    Cheers, Hondo B)


    "When you come slam bang up against trouble, it never looks half as bad if you face up to it"

    - John Wayne quote

  • Roland

    Thanks for taking the time to input that little piece of dialogue. However I feel it was a good decision to cut this scene as the way it is on the movie now is perfect although it would make a nice extra. Of course however if I seen the scene I may be tempted to want it put into the film if it is really good. But in my opinion "The Quiet Man" is one of those rare magical movies that should not be touched.



  • itdo :rolleyes:
    Thank you for adding in the information :P I have to agree with Robbie and Hondo that I agree with the directors cut B) Which also makes me look a little different at some of the postings on here :unsure: I myself have stated on more than one post on here that I would love to have the cut or unseen footage to alot of John Wayne movies :huh: Well I guess sometimes we are better off not seeing what has been cut :o As a John Wayne fan I guess I would like to find some great lost footage :D It must be because we know how many movies he has made and we have our limits now set <_<
    It's not like being a fan of Samuel L. Jackson or someother living actor that has one, two, or three new movies each year :lol:

    Monique ;)

  • Say, do any of you ever watch the "Deleted Scenes" feature on some of the DVDs nowadays? I always watch them, and I have never observed a scene that I think should have been in the movie. IMHO, the call has always been right to leave those deleted scenes just that - deleted.

    That said, I would enjoying seeing the movie as the director released it, but I would appreciate having the ability to see the deleted scenes afterwards.

    And then there are the outtakes :lol: !


  • Chester most deleted scenes are cut out becasue they are awful this is true of modern movies but in Dukes case they were cut out becuase of the films running time. The sixth sense has some great scenes that were eventually deleted much to the dismay of the director. Roland has been a great help informing us of what has been deleted from Duke movies which is a good start so that we know what to look for. The next big problem is where to look anyone got any suggestions? :(