In the beginning there were term limitations so that they would go home to tend their farms or plantations. Greed and ambition had the limitations removed for the congressmen. The Predential limitation as you know was only exceeded once and by the Democrats of all parties. Who would have thought.
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What does it tell you when two of the worst presidents in our nation's history are voted into office (as seems very likely) following the terms of two presidents named Bush. To me, that signifies that the Bushs' governance was so inept that voters sought something radically different.
I know that I, a lifelong conservative Republican, tend to agree with the Democrats assessment of our current president as one of the worst ever. And his old man wasn't a helluva lot better.
Stumpy, can you imagine what a democrat president would have done during the last 8 years? I mean, this current Bush president has had to deal with alot of issue's. He has had alot on his plate. I am not making excuses for him but it would have been interesting to see how someone else would have handled the situation. -
Stumpy, can you imagine what a democrat president would have done during the last 8 years? I mean, this current Bush president has had to deal with alot of issue's. He has had alot on his plate. I am not making excuses for him but it would have been interesting to see how someone else would have handled the situation.
Todd, I'll be the first to admit that Junior has had some bad luck during his term of office but many if not most of his wounds have been self-inflicted.
And I will always blame him for what has been almost the total destruction of the Republican Party that I used to know.
I never have nor never will vote for any Democrat but neither will I ever vote for anyone else named Bush. -
Historically, I think Bush Jr will go do as one of the worst presidents he just happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time. Think how everyone remembers Hoover before Roosevelt but no one mentions Coolridge & Taft.
Personally, I think he has been unlucky both politically & economically that all the BS has landed on him in his two terms which was sown in previous terms. A lot of what is happening now is due to inaction during the Clinton era. Some the problems go back even further back to when US administrations were quite happy to support the Taliban and Saddam Hussein in all their actions with money training and expertise. -
Historically, I think Bush Jr will go do as one of the worst presidents
Agreed.
It's true that the terrorist and financial problems stem from a lack of action, or out-and-out malfeasance, that took place during Clinton's term, and even earlier, but the fact of the matter is Bush did things almost from his first inauguration that infuriated conservatives like me. He has been even worse than Dummicrats at spending taxpayer money needlessly; he has grown the size and intrusiveness of government tremendously; he has attempted to throw open U.S. borders to the millions of Latinos who invade our country. In short, Junior has been a total disaster as far as conservatives are concerned.
Like I said, his actions during office have singlehandedly laid waste to the Republican Party. Which resulted in Republicans losing their congressional majority in 2006 and will almost surely result in the election of a socialist (or worse) president next month. -
Ypu can have Gordon Brown if you wish!
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Why not buy one get one free!! Brown plus Blair. I am sure we would all chip in to pay their airfares
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Agreed.
It's true that the terrorist and financial problems stem from a lack of action, or out-and-out malfeasance, that took place during Clinton's term, and even earlier, but the fact of the matter is Bush did things almost from his first inauguration that infuriated conservatives like me. He has been even worse than Dummicrats at spending taxpayer money needlessly; he has grown the size and intrusiveness of government tremendously; he has attempted to throw open U.S. borders to the millions of Latinos who invade our country. In short, Junior has been a total disaster as far as conservatives are concerned.
Like I said, his actions during office have singlehandedly laid waste to the Republican Party. Which resulted in Republicans losing their congressional majority in 2006 and will almost surely result in the election of a socialist (or worse) president next month.
I think whoever is elected next month will have limited moves to make economically & politically. The world faces the most major economic downturn since the 1930's call it recession or depression you can bet 2009 will be as infamous as 1929. The sticking plasters that politicians are putting onto the banking system will be lucky to last.
One thing for certain who evers gets elected will evacuate Iraq closely followed by Afghanistan.
In terms of Latinos I think it is a foregone conclusion I would either practice your Spanish or make friends with them they are politically more conservative than a lot of Republicans.
America's life's blood has alway been its immigrants sure they change the established order of things but they can also be positive dimension. -
America's life's blood has alway been its immigrants sure they change the established order of things but they can also be positive dimension.
I think the very worst thing that has ever happened to this country (and from what I read, the UK also) is illegal immigration and "diversity and multiculturalism". In an earlier age, almost all immigrants to America made efforts to assimilate and adapt their culture to America's. That is no longer true, neither in America or Great Britain. As a result, both countries are becoming Balkanized, which eventually will cause a great deal of strife, just as in the Balkans. -
Amen to you Stumpy.I have to wonder what Duke would say about
what is happening to our beloved America.I don't think he would be
very happyand I don't believe he would care for Obama too much.
I am a very right wing conservative.
Maureen -
Amen to you Stumpy.I have to wonder what Duke would say about
what is happening to our beloved America.I don't think he would be
very happyand I don't believe he would care for Obama too much.
I am a very right wing conservative.
Maureen
Well, welcome aboard, Maureen darlin'.
A word of warning though, you'll never, ever get as far right as I am. :teeth_smile:
I have a feelin' the Duke would neither recognize nor want to live in what this country has become. I'm just glad I'm in the winter of life, which means I won't have to put up with it very much longer. What makes me sad is that my descendants are inheriting a country that's not even a shadow of what it once was. -
Hi Maureen,
WELCOME to The Original JWMB.
Thanks for joining us in our political thread
Please take a look around,
we're a friendly bunch of folks,
and there is a wealth of information to see,
regarding the great man.You may find these links useful:-
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Link to Duke's Movies, Co-Stars- Pals Of The Saddle and Movie Locations -
I think the very worst thing that has ever happened to this country (and from what I read, the UK also) is illegal immigration and "diversity and multiculturalism". In an earlier age, almost all immigrants to America made efforts to assimilate and adapt their culture to America's. That is no longer true, neither in America or Great Britain. As a result, both countries are becoming Balkanized, which eventually will cause a great deal of strife, just as in the Balkans.
Diversity and multiculturalism is truly the downfall of this society. People don't understand that when you let people "be who they are" all the time you sometimes go down a path that you will no longer come back from. We as a country(USA) cannot allow people to come to this country and let them make policy or law because that's the way they did it in there country. If you left that country it must have been for a reason, don't come here and hide behind our existing laws and try to act the same way you did in your old country. You want to come to America? Then come and be an American!! No more of this mexican-american, japanese american, ect.... You didn't see our ancestor's coming here and calling themselves norwegian-american's or german-americans. They were just plain Americans. Sure they brought with them things from there culture but they put an effort into being a American because they came here to make a better life. Now we have spineless politicians and judges who don't want to affend anyone so they tell us we need to embrace these people while they tear down the very things all the immigrants from the last 100+ years have built up.
Sorry, but like Stumpy, I get alittle fired up on these types of issues. -
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Hi Maureen,
WELCOME to The Original JWMB.
Thanks for joining us in our political thread
Please take a look around,
we're a friendly bunch of folks,
and there is a wealth of information to see,
regarding the great man.
You may find these links useful:-
John Wayne:- A Newbies Guide to Duke
Link to Duke's Movies, Co-Stars- Pals Of The Saddle and Movie Locations
Hello and welcome Maureen. Glad you found us and you are more then welcome to join in anywhere. -
Amen to you Stumpy.I have to wonder what Duke would say about what is happening to our beloved America.I don't think he would be very happyand I don't believe he would care for Obama too much.
I am a very right wing conservative.
Maureen
Maureen,Welcome to the Original John Wayne Message Board, the most awesome forum dedicated to our favorite star, John Wayne! Congratulations on making your first post, and we look to hearing from you again and again and . . . (you get the idea - don't be a stranger
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Diversity and multiculturalism is truly the downfall of this society. People don't understand that when you let people "be who they are" all the time you sometimes go down a path that you will no longer come back from. You want to come to America? Then come and be an American!! No more of this mexican-american, japanese american, ect.... You didn't see our ancestor's coming here and calling themselves norwegian-american's or german-americans. They were just plain Americans. Sure they brought with them things from there culture but they put an effort into being a American because they came here to make a better life. ..... they tear down the very things all the immigrants from the last 100+ years have built up.
Our framers of the Constitution based everthing on Biblical meanings and our own American judges in the early 19th century started to undermine those foundations.
With each immigrant coming from a irreligious countries only added to our change in beliefs in America which culminated in taking anything Jewish or Christian out of our Gov't and schools. Schools can still teach Islam, and other cult teachings without any interference.
This week newspapers sent notice of the story about Islamic terrorist and they received calls, emails about this that were negative. Islamists make up less than 5% of Americans and yet just as the gays who are less than 9% when they complain it stops everything.
These fringe groups just rattle the bars louder than the rest of us do.
For me it makes me ashamed of my Quaker heritage for all the ruining of America they have done. -
Our framers of the Constitution based everthing on Biblical meanings and our own American judges in the early 19th century started to undermine those foundations.
With each immigrant coming from a irreligious countries only added to our change in beliefs in America which culminated in taking anything Jewish or Christian out of our Gov't and schools. Schools can still teach Islam, and other cult teachings without any interference.
This week newspapers sent notice of the story about Islamic terrorist and they received calls, emails about this that were negative. Islamists make up less than 5% of Americans and yet just as the gays who are less than 9% when they complain it stops everything.
These fringe groups just rattle the bars louder than the rest of us do.
For me it makes me ashamed of my Quaker heritage for all the ruining of America they have done.
Hey, Jeff, I'm aware that Quakers are pacifistic so I hope this statement doesn't offend those sensibilities. But every time the ACLU files a suit to forbid the free practice of some kind of Christian religious ceremony, I secretly wish those airliners that brought down the WTC had been aimed at ACLU headquarters. And I'm not even a practicing Christian (though I am a believer.) -
