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just like you do over in Texas.
You got that right. Wish they'd erect a 5,000-volt electric fence all along our southern border but with the Dems running things, we know that's not going to happen. They want all those impoverished Hispanics to invade this country because that means more votes for their welfare-dispensing party.
You got that right. Wish they'd erect a 5,000-volt electric fence all along our southern border but with the Dems running things, we know that's not going to happen. They want all those impoverished Hispanics to invade this country because that means more votes for their welfare-dispensing party.
Last time I checked, illegal immigrants can't vote.
Bush 43 and McCain were quite silent on this very issue of a border fence. That's just "smart politics", but bad, bad, bad policy.
I won't be fooled into believing that the two interest group-controlled parties have anything on their agenda but getting elected.
Last time I checked, illegal immigrants can't vote.
I wouldn't bet the farm on it. After all, their community may have been "organized" by ACORN.
I wouldn't bet the farm on it. After all, their community may have been "organized" by ACORN.
Keep in mind that ACORN must submit every form it receives. That includes people writing in false information. To not submit registration forms based on an ACORN worker's judgment would be just as "controversial." And you know full well that the corporate media would jump on that "story" with just as much gusto.
DIVORCE
Dear American liberals, leftists, social progressives, socialists, Marxists, Obama supporters, et al:
We have stuck together since the late 1950s, but the whole of this latest election process has made me realize that I want a divorce. I know we tolerated each other for many years for the sake of future generations, but sadly, this relationship has run its course. Our two ideological sides of America cannot and will not ever agree on what is right so let's just end it on friendly terms. We can smile and chalk it up to irreconcilable differences and go our own way.
Here is a model separation agreement:
Our two groups can equitably divide up the country by landmass each taking a portion. That will be the difficult part, but I am sure our two sides can come to a friendly agreement. After that, it should be relatively easy! Our respective representatives can effortlessly divide other assets since both sides have such distinct and disparate tastes.
We don't like redistributive taxes so you can keep them. You are welcome to the liberal judges and the ACLU, and abortion clinics. Since you hate guns and war, we'll take our firearms, the cops, the NRA and the military. You can keep Oprah, Michael Moore and Rosie O'Donnell...
We'll keep the capitalism, greedy corporations, pharmaceutical companies, Wal-Mart and Wall Street. You can have your beloved homeless, homeboys, hippies and illegal aliens. We'll keep the hot Alaskan hockey moms and rednecks. We'll keep the Bibles and give you NBC and Hollywood .
You can make nice with Iran and Palestine and we'll retain the right to invade and hammer places that threaten us. You can have the peaceniks, and war protesters. When our allies or our way of life are under assault, we'll help provide them security.
We'll keep our Judeo-Christian values. You are welcome to Islam, Scientology, Humanism and Shirley McClain. You can also have the U.N., but we will no longer be paying the bill.
We'll keep the SUVs, pickup trucks and oversized luxury cars. You can take every Subaru station wagon you can find.
You can give everyone healthcare if you can find any practicing doctors. We'll continue to believe healthcare is a luxury and not a right. We'll keep The Battle Hymn of the Republic and the National Anthem. I'm sure you'll be happy to substitute I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing, Kum Ba Ya or We Are the World.
We'll practice trickle down economics and you can give trickle up poverty your best shot. Since it often so offends you, we'll keep our history, our name and our flag.
Would you agree to this? If so, please pass it along to other like minded liberal and conservative patriots and if you do not agree, just hit delete. In the spirit of friendly parting, I'll bet you ANWAR which one of us will need whose help in 15 years.
Sincerely,
John J. Wall
Law Student and an American
P.S. Also, please take Barbara Streisand and Jane Fonda with you.
Great piece on Duke and his politics.
Here's the part I liked best, we could all learn from Duke's example:
"On a personal level, Wayne represented a time when people held political beliefs based on reason and thought, not blind ideology. His political opponents were inevitably shocked by the fact that the man was a true scholar and proficient in the classics. He enjoyed debating those on the political left, but rarely let it get personal. He detested Jane Fonda's trip to North Vietnam but refused to bad mouth her personally because he knew her since she was a baby and didn't want to cause grief for his old friend Henry Fonda. Wayne was instrumental in supporting Joe McCarthy's deplorable blacklisting tactics in the 1950s, yet he formed a close personal friendship with Kirk Douglas - a liberal who single-handedly broke the blacklist. The two men would star in three films together. Wayne represented a more civil era of political debate. He was stubborn in his support of Nixon and Agnew, but enthusiastically participated in President Jimmy Carter's inauguration ceremonies. He told the new president "I'm a member of the opposition, Mr. President - the loyal opposition. I wouldn't have it any other way." Can you imagine George Clooney having saying the same at George Bush's inauguration, or Rush Limbaugh wishing President Obama the very best?"
Great piece on Duke and his politics.
Here's the part I liked best, we could all learn from Duke's example:
"On a personal level, Wayne represented a time when people held political beliefs based on reason and thought, not blind ideology. His political opponents were inevitably shocked by the fact that the man was a true scholar and proficient in the classics. He enjoyed debating those on the political left, but rarely let it get personal. He detested Jane Fonda's trip to North Vietnam but refused to bad mouth her personally because he knew her since she was a baby and didn't want to cause grief for his old friend Henry Fonda. Wayne was instrumental in supporting Joe McCarthy's deplorable blacklisting tactics in the 1950s, yet he formed a close personal friendship with Kirk Douglas - a liberal who single-handedly broke the blacklist. The two men would star in three films together. Wayne represented a more civil era of political debate. He was stubborn in his support of Nixon and Agnew, but enthusiastically participated in President Jimmy Carter's inauguration ceremonies. He told the new president "I'm a member of the opposition, Mr. President - the loyal opposition. I wouldn't have it any other way." Can you imagine George Clooney having saying the same at George Bush's inauguration, or Rush Limbaugh wishing President Obama the very best?"
There's so much more to it than a mere message board post can say, but offhand I'd call myself a "Reagan Democrat"! My grandfather, whom I idolized, was a Democrat but his hero was Barry Goldwater ("Conscience of a Conservative" was always by his side)! Gramps (God rest his soul) never voted democratic except when he had to in the primaries.
When I registered at eighteen, I registered deomocrat, but only in imitation of my grandfather (hey, I was a kid!). I'm more a conservative than anything else, and loved McCain until he was "Bushwhacked" and he--as well as the Republicans--lost sight of who they were. The GOP is a shameful, piss-poor imitation of what it once was. The democrats are way too leftist for my tastes. I think that both parties need to play to the middle so there isn't so much acrimony. Remember those tales of Tip O'Neill and President Reagan chatting after work? We need that in Washington again.
Do you find it odd that I love Ronald Reagan, Bush 41 (until the tax pledge lie) yet also respect FDR, Truman, and JFK in terms of their political ability? For what it's worth, I think Teddy Roosevelt was the best president of the twentieth century.
Having said that, I judge the man in office not by his political affiliation or within the framework of political biases, as those too often make sheep of us all. I don't need FOX or the New York Times to tell me how to think.
Forgive me for saying so, CT, but why do I get the very distinct impression that your "conservatism" is more the go-along-to-get-along type practiced by people like Snowe, Collins, Hatch, Hutchison, McCain and Bush's first Secretary of State than the hardball kind of Cheney, Limbaugh, Jesse Helms and their ilk?
IMO, politics is not a game but can be, quite literally, a life-and-death struggle between opposite ideologies. For instance, if you make nice with those belonging to the Evil Empire, and unilaterally disarm, policies usually practiced by Democrats, there's a very good chance that our enemies in the Empire will seize the opportunity to destroy this country. History suggests that conservatives (usually meaning Republicans) will not let that happen.
Forgive me for saying so, CT, but why do I get the very distinct impression that your "conservatism" is more the go-along-to-get-along type practiced by people like Snowe, Collins, Hatch, Hutchison, McCain and Bush's first Secretary of State than the hardball kind of Cheney, Limbaugh, Jesse Helms and their ilk?
IMO, politics is not a game but can be, quite literally, a life-and-death struggle between opposite ideologies. For instance, if you make nice with those belonging to the Evil Empire, and unilaterally disarm, policies usually practiced by Democrats, there's a very good chance that our enemies in the Empire will seize the opportunity to destroy this country. History suggests that conservatives (usually meaning Republicans) will not let that happen.
You conveniently ignored Duke's take on politics.
Yeah, thank goodness those "tough-on-communist" republicans like Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh, Saxby Chambliss, Dan Quayle, Pat Buchanan, Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove, Paul Wolfowitz, Trent Lott, Phil Gramm, Dennis Hastert, Jack Kemp, Mitch McConnell, and Tom DeLay were all "at the front" beating back the Viet Cong and NVA hordes and keeping the world safe for democracy. Give me a break! The republicans are just as remiss in their duties as democrat draft dodgers were. If those suits with haircuts ever fought an "Evil Empire", it's not one anyone can point to on the map. You're bogged down in a quagmire of blind ideology (to quote the piece) and see the world as "for" and "against." The real world (whatever that is) isn't like that, and those politcos know it; it's time, at this late date, that you did, too.
Stumpy,
And some of you others that are into Poltics might like this little Story that I was ask to do for a Conservative Magazine that will be out in August that is called
"You Ain't Seen Nothing Yet"
:teeth_smile:
Bill 
You're bogged down in a quagmire of blind ideology (to quote the piece) and see the world as "for" and "against."
You got that right, at least.
You got that right, at least.
Stumpy, you're a character; I'll give you that.
Stumpy, you're a character; I'll give you that.
I haven't pretended to be anything I'm not. I told you (and everyone else at various times) that I'm a take-no-prisoners conservative, which means exactly that. You'll never, ever catch me playing patty-cake with left-wingers. Or in fact, with almost all politicians, a class I absolutely loathe.
I don't know if you've ever read Tom Clancy's book "Debt of Honor" but if you're familiar with the plot of that novel, you'll understand when I say that the ending was to me almost orgasmic. 
I haven't pretended to be anything I'm not. I told you (and everyone else at various times) that I'm a take-no-prisoners conservative, which means exactly that. You'll never, ever catch me playing patty-cake with left-wingers. Or in fact, with almost all politicians, a class I absolutely loathe.
I don't know if you've ever read Tom Clancy's book "Debt of Honor" but if you're familiar with the plot of that novel, you'll understand when I say that the ending was to me almost orgasmic.
The conservatives have been "taking prisoners" at Gitmo Bay, haven't they?
Tom Clancy? Did he serve in the military? Another "Chickenhawk", obviously. He probably had "other priorities", like Dick Cheney.
Those guys are as bad, if not worse, than those draft dodgers from the sixties (like Bill Clinton) in that they promote the use of the armed forces that they themselves never served in. Hypocrites.
But since they share your ideology, that's "okay", right?
Go ahead, defend them...
Tom Clancy : ...Though he wanted to serve in the United States military, he was rejected after failing a required eye exam...
source: Tom Clancy Wikipedia
Tom Clancy : ...Though he wanted to serve in the United States military, he was rejected after failing a required eye exam...
source: Tom Clancy Wikipedia
Okay, now how about these guys? How many "Cong" did they kill?
Dick Cheney, Rush Limbaugh, Saxby Chambliss, Dan Quayle, Pat Buchanan, Newt Gingrich, Karl Rove, Paul Wolfowitz, Trent Lott, Phil Gramm, Dennis Hastert, Jack Kemp, Mitch McConnell, and Tom DeLay
The conservatives have been "taking prisoners" at Gitmo Bay, haven't they? ...
If it was up to me, there never would have been prisoners at Gitmo....they would have all been dead from the get-to. Then all the bleeding hearts wouldn't have had anything to whine about.
Tom Clancy? Did he serve in the military? Another "Chickenhawk", obviously. He probably had "other priorities", like Dick Cheney. Those guys are as bad, if not worse, than those draft dodgers from the sixties (like Bill Clinton) in that they promote the use of the armed forces that they themselves never served in. Hypocrites.
Hell, they didn't need to serve because they had "suckers" like me who wanted to. By the way, CT, did you ever serve in the military?
John Wayne Did Not Serve In The Military But He was a True American Hero Or Does That Make Duke A Chickenhawk Also ?
:teeth_smile:
Stumpy Did Serve in The Navy and I Served in the U.S.A.F. and Got Shot At By
Mig-15s Many Times !!
Just What Branch Of The Service Did You Serve In ?
If You Want To Judge People By if They Served in The Military Or Not Are Good Americans, You Might Just Have A Fight On Your Hands !!!
Chilibill
I didn't serve a single day in any branch of the armed forces, but I admire and respect those who did so in the past and do so today.
However...the point that you've made for me is that people check their brains at the door when it comes to blindly following their political ideology!
I'm still waiting for one of you to say that Cheney and those other "chickenhawks" non-service despite being hawks is just fine with you, instead of making counter accusations. If you don't it'll prove my point that you're all hypocrites.
So stop obfuscating and be the "straight shooters" you purport to be.
Display MoreI didn't serve a single day in any branch of the armed forces, but I admire and respect those who did so in the past and do so today.
However...the point that you've made for me is that people check their brains at the door when it comes to blindly following their political ideology!
I'm still waiting for one of you to say that Cheney and those other "chickenhawks" non-service despite being hawks is just fine with you, instead of making counter accusations. If you don't it'll prove my point that you're all hypocrites.
So stop obfuscating and be the "straight shooters" you purport to be.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
You keep ranting about the hypocrites who never served a day in the Armed Forces and now we learn the truth.
Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.
You keep ranting about the hypocrites who never served a day in the Armed Forces and now we learn the truth.
So then you DO condemn Cheney, Buchanan, et al.
Glad to see you're the straight shooter you claim to be.
You are condemning Cheney and company, right?
