President Barack Hussein Obama ?

This sounds like a case of what cannot be gained by violence, is achieved by boring from within. A little similar to the Japanese who could not achieve supremacy at war did so in world economics.
Cheers - Jay

History has taught us that every great civilization destroys itself from within. Beginning to look like it's our turn.

If he gets elected I will as Ollie says "Eat my hat" Can you imagine the tv ads that the Republicans will run before November. No wonder Witch Hillary is so slow to leave the stage.

I think out of desperation I predict a landslide for Mc Cain maybe bigger than Reagan in 1984.

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History has taught us that every great civilization destroys itself from within. Beginning to look like it's our turn.

Any one remember the Roman Empire?

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Any one remember the Roman Empire?

It lasted well beyond 600 years and you have only gone 232 years so far. By the way
you are still a Republic. Sounds like you need a few more fighting Irish & Scots over there.

Knowing most of this is a reminder that we have a lot of work to do to get the message out about this man. I still remind you that he talks about change, but doesn't say what that change is. It bothers me that no one will question him on that. Will you?

Cheers Hondo

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Knowing most of this is a reminder that we have a lot of work to do to get the message out about this man. I still remind you that he talks about change, but doesn't say what that change is. It bothers me that no one will question him on that. Will you?

Cheers Hondo

You did say you want change perhaps the comedians will run with this one

CHICAGO—According to witnesses, a loud black man approached a crowd of some 4,000 strangers in downtown Chicago Tuesday and made repeated demands for change.
"The time for change is now," said the black guy, yelling at everyone within earshot for 20 straight minutes, practically begging America for change. "The need for change is stronger and more urgent than ever before. And only you—the people standing here today, and indeed all the people of this great nation—only you can deliver this change."
Enlarge Image The black guy is oddly comfortable demanding change from people he's never even met.

It is estimated that, to date, the black man has asked every single person in the United States for change.
"I've already seen this guy four times today," Chicago-area ad salesman Blake Gordon said. "Every time, it's the same exact spiel. 'I need change.' 'I want change.' Why's he so eager for all this change? What's he going to do with it, anyway?"
After his initial requests for change, the black man rambled nonstop on a variety of unrelated topics, calling for affordable health care, demanding that the government immediately begin withdrawing troops from Iraq, and proposing a $75 billion economic stimulus plan to create new jobs.
"What a wacko," Schaumburg, IL resident Patrick Morledge said. "And, of course, after telling us all about how he had the ability to magically fix everything, he went right back to asking for change. Typical."
"If he's really looking for change, he's got the wrong guy," Morledge added.
Reports indicate that the black man has been riding from city to city across the country, asking for change wherever he goes. Citizens in Austin, TX said they spotted the same guy standing on the street Friday, shouting far-fetched ideas about global warming. Cleveland residents also reported seeing him in a local park, wildly gesticulating and quoting from the Bible. And last week, patrons at the Starlight Diner in Cheyenne, WY claimed that the black man accosted them while they were eating, repeatedly requesting change.
"I saw him walk in and I knew he was headed straight for our table," said mother of three Gladys Davies. "He just stood there smiling at us for a while, and asked how our food tasted. Then he went and did the same thing at the next table over. The nerve of some people."
Those who encountered the black man Tuesday said he engaged in erratic behavior, including pointing at random people in the crowd and desperately saying he needs their help, going up to complete strangers and hugging them, and angrily claiming that he is not looking for just a little bit of change, but rather a great deal of change, and that he wants it "right now."
"I'll be honest, when that black guy said he would 'stop at nothing' to get change, it kind of scared me," local mechanic Phil Nighbert said. "Just leave me alone."
Though many were taken aback by the black man's brazen demands, some, such as Jackson, MS's Holly Moser, sympathized with him. She gave the black man credit for boldly standing up and asking every last person around him for change.
"I told him I'd give him some if I saw him later, even though I probably won't," Moser said. "Very nice man, though."
Most, however, ignored his requests.
"I'm a hardworking American who pays his taxes, and the last thing I need is some guy on the street demanding change from me," said William Overkamp, a Springfield, IL gun-shop owner.
He added, "What he really needs is a job."

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Sounds like you need a few more fighting Irish & Scots over there.

I can handle that - at least those Irish and Scots look like me, and speak more-or-less the same language.

I heard that God invented Whiskey to keep the Irish from taking over the world...

I can say that Obama will not carry Alabama. Call it what you will, but I know it is no way he can and unfortunately some of it will be due to race. I am sorry to say that 30-40% will vote against Senator Obama because he is a black man. That is wrong, and I don't approve this.

I vote for the person because of issues and results, and Obama has none of these, but because I live in Alabama, I will be called a racist. In my opinion, if I vote for Obama because he is black, that is what I consider a racist. Voting or following someone because that person is a man or woman, black or white is prejudice. We are suppose to be a nation of issues, beliefs, and common sense. I vote for the person based on this type, but I will be called a racist. I have been called a racist, and will continue to be because I will vote for the best man, and that is not Obama.

Cheers Hondo

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I can say that Obama will not carry Alabama. Call it what you will, but I know it is no way he can and unfortunately some of it will be due to race. I am sorry to say that 30-40% will vote against Senator Obama because he is a black man. That is wrong, and I don't approve this.

I vote for the person because of issues and results, and Obama has none of these, but because I live in Alabama, I will be called a racist. In my opinion, if I vote for Obama because he is black, that is what I consider a racist. Voting or following someone because that person is a man or woman, black or white is prejudice. We are suppose to be a nation of issues, beliefs, and common sense. I vote for the person based on this type, but I will be called a racist. I have been called a racist, and will continue to be because I will vote for the best man, and that is not Obama.

Cheers Hondo

The color of Obama's skin doesn't matter to me at all. What matters is his far left-wing political stances. I will never vote for a left-winger. I can name at least four black men I'd vote for as president but they're all conservatives. Unfortunately, they've not running and will never get the nomination because most of their fellow blacks are left-wingers.

Hello All,
I think that you will have more than enough problems if this man is elected. I am not a racist but what you want is a person who talks the same language as you do. Maybe the influx of a few more Scots, Irish and Brits may wake him up.
Redcap

Obama's skin colour is irrelevant. The policies he is supporting and endorsing would be
be at more at home in left wing socialist party. This added to the fact that he is willing to debase himself to all America's enemies in a vain attempt to make us "all be friends and hold hands" proves he is a complete spineless wonder.

The US needs a stubborn SOB as a leader not a hand wringing apologist.

Mc Cain may not be perfect but Obama would be a diasaster and if the wicked witch ends up as VP (a heart beat away) can you bear the consequences.

I said it once before in the politics thread and I will say it again here. God help us in this election this year...... For once I hope the liberal's in this country don't act like sheep and actually look at the man and his idea's/beliefs and vote with there head instead of there hearts.

Like Mike said above, and in other words, "im not voting for obama either," and that has nothing to do with race-but his limited experiance.