Who Would Be Your Idea For The Perfect

Hi Carl,
Great list, and so expansive!!
I would find it difficult to leave anyone out!!
So what I suggest, is this:-

Duke is the star, and all the rest can have cameo roles!!
Yak and Chuck, can double up as everyone,
and Uncle Jack can direct with,
Hawks,Hathaway and McLaglen, as 2nd unit assistants!
Dollar can be the star horse, with Banner and Bo, doubling up as all the other horses!!

How about that then???

Best Wishes,my friend,
Keith

hi ringo

what about tom sellec and tom burlingson they both look great in cowboy duds

hooroo smokey

I just watched Russell Crowe in the Silver Brumby/ Stallion this afternoon. He looks alwful good on a horse also. He raises cattle in real life and is quite a horseman. He's also a great actor.

Didn't see him on the list, but I just don't see that Robert Duvall can be left off it....True Grit, Lonesome Dove, Open Range....great character cowboy. Glad to see Ben Johnson made the list....one of the unsung in my opinion, and could he ever ride a horse......Grant

Hi Carl,
I have to keep on checking your list, to see whether We've missed anyone??
did we mentiom Tyrone Power 'Jesse James'
and Dale Evans???

Keith

I always thought Robert Taylor wasn.t to bad in weasterns.

Okay Carl,
I'm taking you up on your challenge, but it is pretty difficult to do so I have decided to limit myself some what. I picked a year (1960), and decided to have all the actors and actresses and what not active during that time. Now I only have a list of about a hundred people, so I am paring it down some more by trying to think of roles for them in the "Best Western Movie Ever". I've been working on this since you started this post back on the 12th. Hopefully I will have it done in the next day or so and will get it posted.
By the way, this idea of yours is great! I haven't had this much fun in a long time. I am in training at work this week, so I take my list to work with me to work on it during lunch, and one of my buddy's, Jess (the Colorado Ranger here at the forum), has been offering his suggestions as well, so the result will not be all my creation. I am looking forward to how this thing turns out.
Best,
Colorado Bob

Okay folks, here it is. I told Carl that I was taking him up on his challenge, and after much thought, and after imposing the limitation on myself of picking a year and using only actors and actresses that were alive and capable of making films at that time, I have chosen the year 1960. So here, is my version of the greatest western film of all time, from the year 1960. Let me know what you all think. (Bear in mind that there are several notable omissions, such as John Qualen, John Ireland, Arthur Kennedy and many others that I would have included if I could have thought of names and occupations for them - Colorado Bob).

CinemaScope on location in Four Corners, Colorado

STARRING:

=The Slash M Ranch=
John Wayne as Jim McDonnell, owner of the Slash M
Maureen O’Hara as Mary McDonnell, his wife
Patrick Wayne as Pat McDonnell, his son
Michael Landon as Joseph McDonnell, his son
Ben Johnson as Cooper Flynn, foreman of the Slash M
Hank Worden as Slim, the Slash M cook

-The Slash M Cowboys-
Sheb Wooley as Jeb Perkins
Jock Mahoney as Charlie Watts
Pedro Armendariz as Carlos Reynoso
Bill Elliott as Buster Curtis
Leo G. Gordon as Ed Higgins
Ed Faulkner as Gil Nolan

=The Circle D Ranch=
Charlton Heston as Dan Morgan, owner of the Circle D
Anna Lee as Ruth Morgan, his wife
Vera Miles as Ellen Morgan, his daughter
Debbie Reynolds as Lila Morgan, his daughter
Barbara Eden as Betty Morgan, his daughter
Forrest Tucker as Jud Masters, foreman of the Circle D

-The Circle D Cowboys-
Gene Evans as Stringer
Jeff Chandler as Sam Connors
Russell Johnson as Lance Butler
Roy Barcroft as Pete Chandler
Dan Duryea as Luke Owens
Noah Berry Jr. as Casey Hayden

=The J Bar Ranch=
Burt Lancaster as Jack Betts, owner of the J Bar
Barbara Stanwyck as Anna Betts, his wife
Terry Moore as May Betts, his daughter
James Best as Hobart “Hobie” Betts, his son
Clint Eastwood as Luke Betts, his son
Bob Steele as Elmo “Waco” Betts, foreman of the J Bar, and brother of Jack Betts

-The J Bar Cowboys-
James Arness as Pete Olson
Rod Cameron as Jenkins
Clint Eastwood as Boone Lee
Peter Breck as Lonnie Black
Don Durant as Rocky McDonald
Lee Van Cleef as Reese Maddock

=The Citizens of Canyon Gap=
Stewart Granger as Lafe Carew, a gambler
Andy Devine as Otis Julesworth,the town barber and dentist
Al “Fuzzy’ Knight as Chester Gregg, the town liveryman
Karl Swenson as Doc Werner, the town doctor
George Montgomery as Mike McDonnell, town Marshall and brother of Jim McDonnell, the owner of the Slash M
Gregg Palmer as Seth McCoy, town deputy
Edgar Buchanan as Jug Jensen, the town drunk
Olive Cary as Libby Gale, owner of the Gale Boarding House
Chill Wills as the Rev. Henry Langdon, pastor of the town church
Jimmy Stewart as Matt Bowdin, owner of Bowdin’s Mercantile
Paulette Goddard as Emily Bowdin, wife of Matt Bowdin
George “Gabby” Hayes as Kiowa Jones an old buffalo hunter and Indian fighter. A Resident of Canyon Gap
Arthur Hunnicutt as Josephus Haynes, another old buffalo hunter and Indian fighter, and close friend of Kiowa Jones
Royal Dano as Jasper Diggs, the town undertaker
John McIntyre as Carl Miller, owner of Miller’s Hardware
Cameron Mitchell as Hank Miller, carpenter and co-owner of Miller’s Hardware. Brother of Carl Miller
Milburn Stone as , the town postmaster
Ernest Borgnine as Muley, the town blacksmith
John Doucette as Deke Logan, the town Gunsmith
Strother Martin as Horace Pratt, president of the Cattlemen’s Bank
Elisha Cook, Jr. as Josiah Putter, bank teller
Paul Fix as Baxter Tewksbury, owner, editor and publisher of the Canyon Clarion, the town newspaper
Pat Buttram as Ed Gray, agent of the D.&R.G. Railroad
Glenn Ford as Jeff Stratton, owner of the Ophir Land Company, and land speculator
Mala Powers as Miss Sarah Johnson, school teacher
Warren Stevens as Mark Davis, a tailor
Yvonne DeCarlo as Nan Davis, a dress maker and wife of Mark Davis
Victor French as George Sasson, the town butcher
Steve Forrest as Dave Owens, the town telegrapher

=Davis County Officials=
J. Carroll Naish as the Hon. Phineas Barnes, county judge
Hoot Gibson as Jack Cody, Bailiff of the county court
Ward Bond as Lou Martin, County Sheriff
Harry Carey, Jr. as Rusty Weaver, deputy sheriff
Ken Curtis as Dave Bryman, deputy sheriff
John Agar as Milt Brown, deputy sheriff
Bruce Cabot as Ross Messinger, county brand inspector

=Federal Marshals=
Joel McCrea as Chris Tanner, Deputy U.S. Marshall
Randolph Scott as Webb Barclay, Deputy U.S. Marshall

=The Monarch Hotel=
Smiley Burnett as Bub Howard, the Monarch proprietor
Dub Taylor as Elmer “Hardtack” Hanna, cook at the Monarch Hotel

=The Butterfield Stage Line=
Denver Pyle as , the stage station operator
Jack Elam as Skeet Dawson, stage driver
Walter Brennan as J. D. Fain, stagecoach shotgun rider

=The Ambassador Saloon=
Charles Starrett as Brady Allen, owner of the Ambassador
Dorothy Provine as Bonnie Malone, saloon singer
Guinn “Big Boy” Williams as Joe Bledsoe, bartender
John Carradine as Dan Garrett a Faro dealer
Pedro Gonzales Gonzales as Little Pete, the swamper

=The Red Horse Saloon=
Ray Teal as Joe Murphy, owner of the Red Horse
Richard Boone as Morg Jackson, Gambler
Angie Dickinson as Molly, a saloon girl
John Mitchum as Red Sinclair, bartender
Edmund O’Brien as Old Billy, the swamper

=Norris Brothers Saddle, Harness, Tack and Leather Repair=
Paul Brinegar as Ab Norris
Shug Fisher as Ike Norris

=The Goldstar Freighting Company=
Scott Brady as Bob Allbright, co-owner of The Goldstar Freighting Company
Glenn Strange as Jess Denham, co-owner of The Goldstar Freighting Company
Slim Pickens as Lem McGee, wagon driver
George Kennedy as Matt Starr, wagon driver

=The Outlaws=
Jack Palance as Black Sam Clay, outlaw leader
Henry Silva as George Clay, brother of Sam Clay
Lee Marvin as Monte Fain, member of the Sam Clay Gang
Jim Davis as Lance Hall, member of the Sam Clay Gang
Jeff Corey as Pace Gordon, member of the Sam Clay Gang

=Members of the Huchaca Indian Tribe=
Iron Eyes Cody as Grey Smoke, the Chief
Jay Silverheels as Medicine Elk
Michael Dante as Blood on His Face
Michael Pate as Hawk
Ned Romero as Many Horses
Anthony Caruso as Long Blade
Anthony Quinn as Many Lodges
Michael Ansara as Young Wolf
Frank De Kova as White Buffalo

=Stunts Performed by=
Cliff Lyons, Stunt Coordinator
Chuck Roberson
Chuck Hayward
Dean Smith
Jerry Gatlin
Frank McGrath
Loren Janes
Terry Wilson
Fred Kennedy
Richard Farnsworth
Bob Morgan
Bear Hudkins

Great Film Bob,
When are you thinking of releasing it ?????
Seriously, you put a lot of work into that and in my post I suggested, a film with all the actors playing cameos,
however hats off to you Bob, great post,

Best Wishes,
Keith

Thanks Keith,
But I cannot take all the credit. My good friend Jess (The Colorado Ranger here at the forum) contributed quite a bit. I sure would have liked to see this western though, might have been interesting.
Best,
Colorado Bob

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Ya forgot one ,me,GunClick Rick,and i will tell Harry ya need him too.Check out the pics pards and be jelous,soooo jelous.Me and Harry Carey Jr.I got my 1892 rifle stock autographed by Harry.Octagon barrel and worth a mint now!This is the Harry Carey original adobe ranch and now museum.Ya gotta visit this place.I sat in the chair John Wayne sat in by the big fireplace where thay knocked down a few.That"s a full house for ya boy!!!!!

Mine is:

The Men:

John Wayne.
Ward Bond.
Hoot Gibson.
Henry Fonda.
Gary Cooper.
Harry Carey Sr.
Harry Carey Jr.
Tom Tyler.
Alan Hale Sr.
Errol Flynn.
Gwinn "Big Boy" Williams.
Montgomery Clift.
Dean Martin.
Victor McLaglen.
Grant Withers.
Bruce Cabot. (though i'm a bit angry with him at what he did to Errol Flynn)
James Stewart.
Ben Johnson.
Slim Pickens.
Claude Akins.
Telly Savalas.
Anthony Quinn.
Steve McQueen.
L.Q. Jones.
James Best.
Arthur Kennedy.
Ronald Reagan.
Paul Fix.
John Carradine.
David Carradine.
Robert Carradine.
Keith Carradine.
Stacy Keach. (Because he is such a good actor)
George Kennedy.
Audie Murphy.
Walter Brennan.
Bruce Bennett.
Steven McNally.
Bob Steele.
Sterling Hayden.
James Whitmore Sr.
Brad Dexter.
Gene Evans.
Steve Forrest.
Robert Mitchum.
Clint Eastwood.
John Mitchum.
Gilbert Roland.
Pedro Armendariez Sr.
Hank Worden.
Denver Pyle.
Walter (Jack) Palance.
Richard Boone.
Andy Devine.
Roy Rogers.
Gene Autry.
Buster Crabbe.
Charles Bronson.
Chuck Connors.
James Coburn.
Charlton Heston.
Yul Brynner.
Gregory Peck.
William Holden.
William Demarrest.
John Payne.
Fess Parker.
Gilbert Roland.
Sidney Poitier.
Arthur Hunnicut.
John Dierkes.
Forrest Tucker.
Iron Eyes Cody.
Yakima Canutt.
Glenn Ford.
Woody Strode.
Lee Marvin.
Ernest Borgnine.
Alfonso Bedoya.
Sidney Greenstreet.
Clayton Moore.
John Carroll.
Millard Mitchell.
Milburn Stone.
Pedro Gonzales Gonzales.
Brian Keith.
Brock Peters.
Richard Widmark.
Jay Silverheels.
Ray "Crash" Corrigan. (THE best team to be a 3 Mesquiteers team except when
Max Terhune. the Duke was playing Stoney Brooke))
Bob Livingston.
Spencer Tracy.
Burt Lancaster.
Dan Duryea.

The Women:

Olivia de Havilland.
Maureen O'Hara.
Claire Trevor.
Olive Carey.
Mae West.
Rhonda Fleming.
Hattie McDaniel.

There are others i'd mention but can't think of their names at this time.
This movie would be one of those story epics that covered our history from the time of the expansion out West a few years before The Alamo to the Indian Wars out West.

The parts of the scouts/pioneers would go to:

Hoot Gibson.
Harry Carey Jr.
Fess Parker.
Montgomery Clift.
Walter Brennan.
Denver Pyle.
John Mitchum.
John Payne.
John Carroll.

The ones used for The Alamo and War with Mexico parts of the story would go to:

Sterling Hayden.
Richard Widmark.
Gwinn "Big Boy" Williams.
Alan Hale Sr.
Errol Flynn.
Pedro Armendariez Sr.
Grant Withers.
Slim Pickens.
Pedro Gonzales Gonzales.
Millard Mitchell.
Chief Dan George.
Milburn Stone.
Burt Lancaster.
Richard Boone.
Lee Marvin.
Alfonso Bedoya.
Paul Fix.
Arthur Kennedy.
Gilbert Roland.
Glenn Ford.
John Dierkes.

The roles for those who would be in the Civil War and Indain Wars scenes would go to the rest of those not listed here with the exception of those who would be some of the Cowboys and (for reason of sanity) and time.

The Cowboys:

Gary Cooper.
Tom Tyler.
Dean Martin.
James Stewart.
Dan Duryea.
Bob Livingston.
Ray "Crash" Corrigan.
Max Terhune.
John, David, Robert & Keith Carradine.
Charles Bronson.
Chuck Connors.
Yul Brynner.
Stephan McNally.
Bob Steele.

The Indians:

Walter (Jack) Palance. (Apache) or any.
Iron Eyes Cody. (Sioux) or any.
Yakima Canutt. Any.
Jay Silverheels. Any.
Anthony Quinn. (Sioux) or any.
Chief Dan George. (Cherokee) or any.

Money is NOT an object. Any takers?

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Bob,

Your list is a good one. I only have one name I'd like to add to it (but it's a big one). Remember, in 1960 Gary Cooper was still around. I don't think that any "ideal Western cast" would be complete without him. Someday (when I have more time) I will type up a longer post about Cooper and his contributions to the Western genre. But, I definitely would have Wayne and Cooper as the stars of my "Perfect Western."

Hi gunclick rick,
Thanks for posting that link to your photographs,
they were really interesting shots of Harry, and the ranch,

Keith