Politics

First, like his politics or not, he has been a man of his words. To my knowledge he has not waffled on any subject. I have not heard him say that he is for this and then turn around and say he is for that. IMO he has also shown great character in not caring about what the polls say, he has done his thing. I don’t agree with everything he has done but that doesn’t mean I can’t respect him.

Caused unrest in the Middle East? That is all the Middle East has know for thousands of years. Neither of the Golf wars caused unrest any more than Russia did.

Saddom was not a direct threat to us, but he was to our Allies in the region. He was at war with all his neighbors at one time or another. He gassed his own people; he tortured and killed anyone that opposed him. This man needed to be removed from power. Or did we need to wait until he could hurt our people? I guess some people didn’t learn from WWII.

Gas prices are high because we are stupid. We sit and let oil the companies make Billion dollar profits every quarter (3 months) and do nothing about it but bitch that the war caused this, or it was a hurricane, or whatever lame reason they throw out. You want the gas prices to come down, stop buying gas and plastics. Then it won’t matter what the cost of a drum of oil is, but it’s always easier to blame someone else than to actually do something.

Another bitter, frustrated old man... that's pissed because it didn't go his way ... (see I can play that game too)

Funny... how you didn't speak to one of my points... So I will make it easy for you...

Explain how the Golf war INCREASED Middle East unrest.

It’s kind of a shame you don’t know your history better…

1948 Arab-Israeli War (War of Independence)
Israel directly backed by Brittan and France, politically backed by the US and Russia.

1956 Suez War
British backed, no US involvment.

1967 (Six day war)
No direct US involvement other than trying to work a political one before any aggression.
The US was very upset at Israel for attacking before a political resolution could be attempted. (No US equipment or forces used by Israel)

1970 War of Attrition
US F4’s used… Arab’s have heavy Russia backing. US takes no military action, only political and come up with the plan for the cease fire that ended the conflict.

I could go on, but is there really a need?

A biker is riding by the zoo, when he sees a little girl leaning into the lion's cage. Suddenly, the lion grabs her by the cuff of her jacket and tries to pull her inside to slaughter her, under the eyes of her screaming parents. The biker jumps off his bike, runs to the cage and hits the lion square on the nose with a powerful punch. Whimpering from the pain the lion jumps back letting go of the girl, and the biker brings her to her terrified parents, who thank him endlessly.



A New York Times reporter has seen the whole scene, and addressing the biker, says, "Sir, this was the most gallant and brave thing I saw a man do in my whole life."



"Why, it was nothing, really, the lion was behind bars. I just saw this little kid in danger, and acted as I felt right."



"Well, I'll make sure this won't go unnoticed. I'm a journalist from the New York Times , you know, and tomorrow's paper will have this on the first page. What motorcycle do you ride and what political affiliation do you have?"



"A Harley Davidson and I am a Republican. "



The journalist leaves.



The following morning the biker buys The New York Times to see if it indeed brings news of his actions, and reads, on first page:



BIKER GANG MEMBER ASSAULTS AFRICAN IMMIGRANT AND STEALS HIS LUNCH.

That's so sad, yet I can't control my laughter...

Just like the media to twist the truth, leaving something truthful to give their stories credence.
Cheers - Jay
LOL

good one chester had a good giggle about that how right it is twist the truth to sell papers

cheers smokey

Thanks Chester for the brake in the war of words. after reading Stumpy and Erthomp143 is why I don't talk politics.
ps it's gulf war not golf war i've been on to many fairways to know the difference.

Yeah I hear that some times the Golf War can get pretty nasty....

are you implying then that it was a ..... catfight?

Japanese doctor says, "Medicine in my country is so advanced that we can take a liver out of one man, put it into another, and have him out looking for work in six weeks."

A German doctor says, "That is nothing. We can take a lung out of one person, put it into another, and have him out looking for work in four weeks."

A British doctor says, "In my country, medicine is so advanced that we can take half a heart out of one person, put it in another, and have both of them out looking for work in two weeks."

The American doctor, not to be outdone, interjected, "You guys are way behind. We are about to take a woman with no brains,
and no heart, put her in the White House, and very soon half the country will be out looking for
work."

Geez... and I though range wars were nasty. Politics is absolutely a bloodbath.

Quote from Stumpy

That wasn't a war, Bill. Not even a minor skirmish. :teeth_smile::teeth_smile::teeth_smile:

Yep, just two people expressing different points of view.

That's true sportsmanship, congrats to both Stumpy and Erthomp for keeping things in perspective. I rarely see that these days, and I salute the two of you.

A that's what I like to see a lasting peace. mean while back at the tee box.FORE!