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Quote from DukePilgrim

Look on the bright side

There ain't no silver linings in this cloud, Mike. We just went the way of ancient Rome.

Well, the parasite class has triumphed, thanks to the totally inept governance by George Bush and his fellow "compassionate" conservatives in the Congress.

Quote from DukePilgrim

I think Bush was more the patsy.

Have you ever heard of the "veto pen", Mike?

Quote from Jay J. Foraker

But the Democrats couldn't get enough votes to override a veto. If they were so intent on passing a bill, they would have achieved the two-thirds majority. I'm not an apologist for Bush, but there are a lot of places to put the blame (our economic problems started back during the Clinton administration).

Jay,
Almost from the time he first took office, Bush has governed more or less like a fairly liberal Democrat. He never vetoed a single spending bill until the Democrats took control in 2006; for six years the Republican majority spent money like drunken sailors. He started a war in Iraq that we really didn't need because although Saddam Hussein was a monster, he posed no serious military threat to the U.S. What's worse, he insisted on trying to impose "democracy" on a society that has never known such and probably never will. In other words, Bush has been the reincarnation of Democrat president Woodrow Wilson who "wanted to save the world for democracy" or some such BS.

Bush signed the McCain-Feingold bill that took away our right to free political speech; he insisted on passage of the "no child left behind" and Medicare drug bills, both of which were hugely expensive and bureaucracy-growing additions to an already swollen federal government; he imposed tariffs on steel imports, which drove up their price; he's signed about 3 or 4 tremendously-expensive farm bills, which paid millionaire farmers more millions.

I could go on and on about elements of Bush's governance that I didn't like but the very worst thing was he (and his free-spending congressional Republican majorities) so tarnished the conservative Republican brand built by Ronald Reagan that it resulted in the election of a socialist president and a super-majority Dummicrat Congress. And this last element of Bush's "legacy" is something that I'll never forgive him nor the so-called congressional Republicans for. I have lived under Presidents ranging from FDR to George W. Bush and IMO, young Bush is down there in Jimmy Carter's class. And his old man wasn't much better.

Quote from SXViper

I think most of the middle class are going to find out they might be part of history after this guy is through!!

White liberal guilt {for slavery, an institution that ended 143 years ago} and massive, monolithic voting by so-called "minorities" put Obama into the White House.

I predict that before his first term ends, there will be a considerable amount of buyer's remorse on the part of those white liberal "elites" who are going to finance his transfer of wealth to the parasite class.

Here's a good illustration of how the country voted. Obviously, large swaths of US territory are still reliably Republican. The problem is, most of the large red areas are rural and sparsely populated.

We can also see what the effects of unrestrained immigration from south of the border has caused, as most blue areas in south and southwest Texas, Colorado, New Mexico, Arizona and southern California represent large Mexican populations, most of whom are poor and therefore inclined to vote for Democrats, who will promise them the moon to get their votes.

I don't know why but proximity to water and urbanism seem to promote liberalism, which naturally points to gains for Democrats.

I'll wager my last dollar, though, that the massacre of Republicans that has occurred in the last two elections are NOT repudiations of the conservative political philosophy so eloquently put forth during Ronald Reagan's time but of the governance of George Bush and his free-spending congressional Republican pork barrelers.

NOTE: Click on the US map to increase the size of the illustration.

Quote from Kevin

I didn't have a dog in the hunt

Kevin,
I've gotta admit that this comment of yours just puzzles the hell out of me. Are you saying that you, an apparent admirer of one of the most famous conservative Americans, don't really care that one of the worst liberals in this country has just become president. And that this liberal has a Congress with enough people who think like he does that they can do just about anything they want. Including shutting down an internet message board devoted to a conservative icon.

Quote from Kevin

McCain was never my guy, and he's not a true conservative. As Reagan said of the Democratic Party once a long time ago, my party has left me. I felt during this whole election cycle that I was a voter in search of a party to call home. I voted for Bush both times (2000 & 2004) for national security reasons but have NEVER agreed with him (or the other free spenders) on domestic issues.

Bush was the worse thing to happen to the Republican party, and his father is right behind him on my list. I was first able to vote in the 1988 elections and proudly punched the voting card for Bush senior because I felt that he would continue the Reagan path, I was wrong.

So Stump, I guess you could call me a disenfranchised conservative.

Well, you and I are in total agreement about the way we feel toward both Bushes, big spenders in general and being disenfranchised conservatives. But I held my nose and voted for McCain, not because I thought he'd win, but because I want Obama and his fellow socialists to know there are a bunch of people out here who will never, ever agree with their political philosophy.