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I'm actually in favor of impeachment of all officials in Washington. But we need to make sure that the other corruption doesn't take over. We have a lot of work, but the first rule of business is to prosecute the media and put them in prison. Some may need execution, but they will be judged by a jury of their peers.

They created most of the problems due to their socialist behavior and the liberals have followed suit. If they want their country then they need to go and get it. And leave us alone.

Cheers Hondo

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Just a little info:

Scientology: Believes the Spirit can heal the body, but not necessarily at the exclusion of Doctors. They mostly go to the Doctor to find out what is wrong and then "Audit" to heal the body. Their website says once they are under treatment they "Audit"...

The Church of Christ, Scientist (Christian Science): Believes that prayer will heal the body and in most cases at the exclusion of Doctors. They mostly do not go to the Doctor and rely on prayer to heal whatever sickness they may have.

Neither of these religions/cults make good use of Doctors, but there are parents that don't belong to either of these that do not make good use of Doctors either. Part of living in a free society is that we get to choose how we raise our children and whether we take them to a Doctor or not. Is it a shame that this young man died, sure is. But there is no guaranty that the medication would have stopped this seizure either.
My step father had a brain tumor that was causing seizures, he had the tumor removed but the seizures continued. He is on anti-seizure medication but still has them on occasion.

We cannot force people to behave in a manor that WE think is appropriate. It would be wrong of me to force my moral standard on you, just as it would be for you to do the same to me. Now with that said do I hope that others that do not make good use of Doctors, start to do so because this young man passed, yep I sure do.

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erthomp, I started a reply to you a few days ago, and obviously never finished or posted it . I appreciate you sharing your thoughts.

You are so right when you point out that many people who are not a member of any religion make just as poor use of doctors as those whose religious beliefs would cause them to steer away from medical assistance. And there are times when going to a doctor is not the best choice either!

With freedom comes responsibility. Unfortunately, some exercise their freedom less than responsibly. I'm not saying that Mr. Travolta and Ms. Preston did that, because frankly, I don't really know. The death of their child is tragic either way.

Mrs. C

Yep, I agree.. no parent should have to deal with the loss of a child...

There are reports out that say he was on the medication and that he did not hit his head during the seizure, but again either way it's sad when a young life is lost.

I see that the Porno Queens In California have Gotten Together and are getting in line for Some Of The Bail Out Money and they say It Is To Save Jobs !

I think I better Get in Line To, as it looks like The U.S. Government Might Have To Take Over The Hopi Tribe as just about Everyone in The Hopi Tribal Government Has Quit and there is No One to Talk To at the Tribal Headquarders and all the Phones are Cut Off !

I talked to the Ranch Manager of the "Hopi Three Canyon Ranches" and that Has the Duke's Old Ranch "The 26 Bar Ranch" and He said that He was having a Hard Time Just Keeping Things Going !!

If that happens that would mean that I would be Dealing with the U.S. Government Over My House at The 26 Bar Ranch !!!
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Duke Would Just Love This One, So Maybe I Just Better Get In Line For Some Of This Bail-Out "M-O-N-N-E-Y" As DUKE Would Always Say, And Save Some Jobs,
Like " MY-OWN" !!!!

Chilibill

You've said it brother.

Did you know that O'bama said that he is taking from the rich and giving to the poor? I am poor and if the only requirement is not having a job, I'll be gladly happy to give it up to someone , so they can work and give me their money. I think I'm on to something. From what I can see in this so called plan that is called giving everyone the same amount of money to live on no matter what you do. We are all at the same income level.

I wonder why the politicians and celebrities are so eager to make this plan happen. Do they know that they are going to have to give up their fortunes to give to the poor?

Cheers

I did not vote for O'bama, but this is significant for the world to see. For the first time a white man will not be the president of the United States of America. This is history being made. I embrace the diversity we bring to our leadership. I don't agree with Barack O'bama's politics and I hope he fails with the policies he promises us, because I don't agree with them, but I do hope for him the best. God Bless America!

Cheers Hondo Duke Lane

Hondo,
I agree with you, and hope springs eternal that our Country will be served well by Mr Obama. But someone sent me the following which seems to ring true;

"Political correctness is a doctrine, fostered by a delusional, illogical minority, and rabidly promoted by an unscrupulous mainstream media, which holds forth the proposition that it is entirely possible to pick up a turd by the clean end"

(I thought of erthomp's signature when I read that quote the first time !)
Chester

I'm with Chester on this. Obama wasn't my choice, but he is slated to be our President. Though I am not happy with many of his policies, my prayers go out to him also.

Stumpy,

I'm pretty much with you on that. I think if our founding fathers were to come back from the grave we'd have a revolution inside of a week.

And, with due respects to Hondo, I don't buy in to this being a great milestone of US history. It is, but not in how most would think.

For me the vote has always centered on the qualifications of the candidate.

I would have voted for Alan Keys over either one of the two candidates who floated to the top of the election cess pool. In fact I have voted for Alan in past primaries.

No, this will be an historic era for the US because by the time Obama is done with us, you won't be able to tell the difference between the USA and any other post-western, formerly great,(read Euro-socialism) republic.

God help the poor babies who are conceived under this administration. Their chances of being born are going to be much less after FOCA goes through. We blaspheme to say "God bless America" when we allow things like this to happen.

What I have placed here is a geneology of someone related to Bush, Obama, and Botts of Baker & Botts, Baker being James Baker. Botts was Ella Botts Rice, first wife of Howard Robard Hughes.

My reason for sharing this here is to show a connection between Bush and Obama. This should give you all something to chew on.

Cindy


Diana's Genealogy Pages — Kin of My Mother

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The scariest part about the whole situation is that their is nothing to stop Obama, the Congress is just as screwed up as he is. They'll go along with anything he wants I believe because he is their dream come true. And its even scarier to think that the 51 percent that voted for him were mostly young votes, the future of the country. I am still quite young and I am more scared of what lies ahead in the distant future more so than the near future. I could say more but I probably just get bomb threats or something.

FarmerSteve,

Young voters traditionally always vote Democrat. When I voted my first election in 1980, I voted for Reagan (Republican), though if I had been able to vote in 1976, I would have voted for Carter (Democrat). Carter made a very serious mistake while President (I know Stumpy, he made a lot of serious mistakes). He threatened to reinstate the draft because of the concerns with Iran. Most of us were not interested in this draft (we just got over the Vietnam war) and he was going to include women in this.

So while Carter refused to debate Reagan for the Presidential election, he basically lost almost all the young voters at the time. I really didn't know who I wanted as president at the time. Carter created so many problems and I really didn't like Reagan at the time. Mainly because of my parents. So, when I pulled the lever (I think that is the only time I pull it) and , I voted for Ronald Reagan. I have never regretted my decision.

Getting back to reason for responding to your post, young people grow up (not all), and they realize what they want by the time they get around 28 to 30 years old. Not all but over 50% change their opinion. Why? Well one reason is they become tax payers and see the wasteful spending the Democrats do, and start seeing themselves as Republicans or even conservatives.

Over the past 8 years, the Republicans looked more like Democrats with the spending spree, so it is very difficult who we want in our government, and yes it is our government. The conservatives have been left high and dry. This is one of many reasons why people like Stumpy has declared their independence from this country. I really don't blame them, but I willing to fight these idiots, which may be a losing cause, but I believe that we will overcome. I come from the South, and seen a lot of fights from men like Martin Luther King. No, I am not promoting anything, I'm just talking about fighting for a cause worth fighting for.

There is one thing I do know. I know that 87% of Americans do not want to abandon the U.S. Constitution. The majority of House and Senate also has no interest in doing away with the Constitution according to a poll that was done prior to the election back in November. I don't have the site that did that poll, but I do remember it very well. Why do I say this? Because in two years we will elect 33 Senators, and all the House, and maybe we can get some of the control back. A majority of the states will have the Governor's and state officials election.

So, don't give up. The fight is just beginning, and we can defeat liberalism.

Cheers Hondo

Cindy,

This is very difficult to read and fully understand. I have read geneology from my cousin who is into this, and my dad's side of the family is very interesting as well. That side has a mystery to it that afftects me. But I don't exactly see this. Could you somehow break this down a little?

Cheers Hondo

Hello Hondo,

The only parts that I am interested in is the fact that George Bush and Obama are related, according to this woman's geneology and that The Bush family is related to the Botts/Rice family of which Howard Hughes married into and they are the ones, along with James Baker, that controlled things when Hughes died. Hughes cousin, William Rice Lummis, was the main administrator of the estate. The Rices married into the Hughes/Gano family. Gano is the madien name of Hughes mother. All of these people took control, turned Hughes Tool Company, turned it into Enron, and well, you can see what they did with that. Bush worked for James Baker along with William Rice Lummis.

There's a lot more to this story. I placed it under politics because of those connected.

Cindy